Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 96
Jun. 6th, 2023 01:34 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update
Date: 2023-06-11 11:36 am (UTC)They have put my son on a low dose of calcium channel blockers. I don't take any medicines or advice from allopathic practitioners, but I don't try and impose my views on others. I leave the door open for non-allopathic care and do what I can, but no nagging or insisting. Is that the right call? I struggle with what I should do every day. And those I care for keep going to doctors.
Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update
Date: 2023-06-11 05:01 pm (UTC)The calcium channel blocker no doubt is to minimize the risk of recurrence.
Allopathic medicine does some things very well. By way of contrast, I’ve had several patients who relied on naturopaths to treat high-blood pressure. Shockingly, their blood pressure remained dangerously high for extended periods, and they suffered strokes, winding up as my rehab patients.
I get that the medical profession right now is deeply compromised. Yet allopathic medications that treat blood pressure, heart, lungs, Type I diabetes, or bacterial infection are often life-critical in the very short term. Surgery is often life-saving, such as after major trauma; and appendicitis used to kill (e.g. Rudolf Valentino). Eschewing allopaths altogether is not something I would advise.
—Lunar Apprentice
Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update @ Lunar Apprentice
Date: 2023-06-11 07:55 pm (UTC)Anyway, the cardiologist said they would not give him blood thinners unless the AFIB went on for some undefined amount of time -- 12 hours? 24? Only he knows. However, they also said they would definitely administer blood thinners if they shocked him, heavy duty ones, because a shock would likely knock any clots that had formed into a place they shouldn't be, like his brain.
I don't know what the risk is going forward, but he will have to continue to see a cardiologist to get access to the medicine they gave him, so he will see a doctor for the foreseeable future.
Another relative, not quite so close as my son, took the J&J shot around the same timeframe as my son. He ended up in cardiac intensive care for 3 weeks very soon after the shot with micro blood clots in his lungs. They were talking lung transplant for a while. He is 23 years old. He is now on several expensive, heavy duty medications that they are telling him he will be on for life and his life expectancy is 5 years, according to some things I have read.
I was hoping that my son, who is more than 10 years older, had ducked the J&J injuries since, other than catching COVID multiple times after the shot, did not seem to have any issues. But now I think it was just a matter of time. Full of sorrow...
Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update
Date: 2023-06-11 07:40 pm (UTC)While it can be very difficult to refrain from giving sermons (I am extremely prone to this, and I blame being raised by evangelical missionaries... ;) ), every single person, including everyone we care for, is working out their own fate. This includes your son. It also includes you.
If I may, I wish blessings and healings upon *you* and may you find yourself "rising" to this occasion, and discovering all of your strengths and capabilities!
Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update
Date: 2023-06-12 11:57 am (UTC)I do, too. It's heartbreaking to see loved ones suffering. I cannot imagine how hard it must be to see your son suffering.
If it brings any comfort, here's my story.
In 2021 there were many friends and relatives I wanted to warn away from the jabs but they were crazed, literally bug-eyed crazed, to take the jabs. I did try to find openings to suggest doubts and questions, but that was always shut down like a steel trap. I quickly realized that my saying anything against the jabs would only make them volcanically angry with me, label me a nut, tear apart the fabric of the family, and then when the day came-- as I knew it would-- that they would realize that they had made a terrible mistake to take the jabs-- as some do now, in June 2023, either because they are injured or they know people who are, and they've all come down with covid multiple times-- they would feel ashamed (and Pschology 101, therefore find more reasons to be angry with and disdain me). In sum, I recognized that my trying to warn them away from the jabs would not only do no good, it would only make the aftermath harder for all concerned.
I will grant that some people may have had a different experience, and some people will always feel that the effort to warn friends and family was worth it, no matter the consequences.
However, in my case there wasn't anyone who would even give a micromillimeter to listen to anything other than SAFE & EFFECTIVE OMG EVERBODY MUST GET IT NOW!!!!!!! Therefore, apart from one exception, I decided to just leave it alone. Of course this was tremendously sad and painful. Maybe not everyone understood, as I did, about gain-of-function research, mRNA and lipid nanoparticles, and Dr. Fauci's stupendous history of corruption, and the censorship was, and continues to be outrageous. However, the basic information for a thinking adult to conclude that it was neither a necessary nor a good idea to get jabbed, especially if you are young and healthy, and especially also if you'd already had covid (um, natural immunity is a thing?!), was already out there. That the jabs were experimental, that, too, was known from the beginning, as the jabs were brought out under Operation Warp Speed as Emergency Use Authorized. That the people dying of covid were mainly the elderly and people with several comorbidities, that was also widely known before the jabs roll-out.
In my opinion, taking an unneeded experimental jab in order to keep a job, attend school, or travel was absurdly shortsighted. I would have lived in my car, or even a tent, rather than take one of those jabs. (It gives me no satisfaction to point out that many of the injured took the jabs to keep a job, but now that they're injured, they're unable to work and financially ruined.)
But other people, adults with drivers' licenses and voter registrations, and some with medical licenses, too, made their own calculations and arrived at their own conclusions, which were entirely different from mine.
Where I'm going with this is that I think the whole problem we are living through is that some people think other people should do what they want them them to do. For example, I wanted my friends and family to forego the jabs which they really, but really, really, really, really wanted. I could have hectored and nagged them-- and aside from all indications that it wouldn't have done any good, by what right should I tell them what to do about their personal medical decisions? And the government, and many other people, wanted to coerce me, and try to shame me, into taking injections I didn't need or want-- and they didn't get anywhere with me, either.
At the end of the day I am the one who has to live in my body, just as, at the end of the day, other people have to live in their individual bodies. We are each ultimately responsible for ourselves. We do need to educate and care for underage children, but other competent adults, they take their own decisions, whether I think them good or poor, it is their right, as it is my right, to take decisions about personal medical treatments. So my stance is for respect for medical freedom and medical privacy. (And also, that those who committed crimes be held accountable before the law).
Another way of saying this: I respect the dignity of those who took the jabs, as I want them to respect my dignity. They have the right, as do I, to decide for themselves about their medical treatments.
No one person wanted my advice about the jabs, however, many people who are jabbed have come to this forum, and other discussion forums where I am active, asking for help to detox. I always gladly and immediately send them to the FLCCC protocols.
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P.S. Last week I encountered an old friend who lives in what I would describe as an arts colony town in the mountains. She suddenly blurted out that she just couldn't understand why so many people there didn't want to get vaccinated. And I thought, hon, you're asking that now, June 2023? If she'd really wanted to know the answer to that, even with the heavy censorship, she could have easily googled up RFK's Children's Health Defense Fund and an ocean of other, alternative information. But what that was, really, was not a question, but an invitation to engage in a comfy little duet of we're-the-Good-People-let's-bash-those-icky-ignorant-anti-vaxxers. I just steered over to another subject. And I've been reflecting on it a lot this week. I would love to have told her what I know about the jabs, but what ears would she have had to hear it? And in the end, her medical decisions are not my business, any more than mine are hers. My considered respect is not the same thing as approval, nor is it a lack of compassion. In addition, I distinguish between the private realm and the public; in the former, I am quietly respectful, while in the latter I am actively attempting to infuence state legislation towards medical freedom and medical privacy.
Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update
Date: 2023-06-12 04:32 pm (UTC)If those few brave folks had not spoken out publicly initially against the jabs and paid a price for it, we would have been even more adrift in the sea of madness... In our own private circles, our humanity should have compelled us to try to persuade friends and loved ones, even against heavy odds... at least it did for me. Your rationalization for not doing so, becomes a justification for always keeping our heads down, don't rock the boat... don't be the squeaky wheel...
In my freedom group, we all tried, in various manners, using different angles, trying to find something to penetrate their MSM programming. Even if we failed, we learnt the full extent of how NPC most people are... We all gave more than the old college try.
Personal success rate - 1 unjabbed, a few talked into stopping after 1 shot, more stopping after 2, in a place where most people have 4 or 5 shots already.
Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update
Date: 2023-06-13 12:07 am (UTC)My wife's multiply-vaxxed mother went blind in one eye roughly two years ago, and was sent to the hospital for afib just this past weekend. Her husband developed rapid cognitive decline in the same period. My wife herself has developed strange ocular/neurological symptoms that coincide temporally with her 3 shots. She does not want to hear about how it could be the vax. No interest in the matches in VAERS. No, it's much more comforting to believe the new neurologist, who made up some BS about reactivated lazy eye from 60 years ago, and sent her to another specialist. Nope. Safe and effective, it just *has* to be something else.
I stopped believing msm/state-run media a long time ago. Most haven't. It's too disquieting. All I can occasionally do is ask an uncomfortable question. I'm just a quirky oddball, waiting for anyone who seems he to be looking for alternative narratives. Sad thing is, mostly, all I have is more questions. Even I don't want to go down some of the darker rabbit holes
Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update
Date: 2023-06-12 04:53 pm (UTC)Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update
Date: 2023-06-13 05:53 pm (UTC)Weird, given I grew up raised by leftists who openly disdained half of the things authorities said. Oh well, pointing out the bizarre switcheroo in political ideologies has been beaten to death at this point.
Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update
Date: 2023-06-12 10:55 pm (UTC)There are days when I think, should I have spoken up more? Should I not have lied to some people - or, in many more cases, just not corrected their assumptions - about my medical history? Should I have pushed back more? Should I have been more open in my objections, rather than keeping my head down in quiet resistance? Should I have tried to save more people?
But then I remember what it was like - or more specifically, what THEY were like.
They were NEVER going to listen. Then were NEVER going to see any perspective other than what the MSM had fed them. There was NOTHING I could have said would have mattered. And it would only make everything harder in the long run.
I made the same choice as you - I refused to go along, but by and large, I kept my mouth shut about it. Because I didn't believe that there was a single word I could say that would have the slightest benefit.