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absurdities and atrocitiesAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update

Date: 2023-06-12 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] stubborn_ass
I think there's a huge difference when one side is trying to persuade the other not to jab, via data, logical arguments, known effective treatments from the early months (before the CDC shut everything down with 'acceptable protocols) and our understanding of natural and acquired immunity. Against which you had the weight of the system machine terrifying and coercing folks to jab.

If those few brave folks had not spoken out publicly initially against the jabs and paid a price for it, we would have been even more adrift in the sea of madness... In our own private circles, our humanity should have compelled us to try to persuade friends and loved ones, even against heavy odds... at least it did for me. Your rationalization for not doing so, becomes a justification for always keeping our heads down, don't rock the boat... don't be the squeaky wheel...

In my freedom group, we all tried, in various manners, using different angles, trying to find something to penetrate their MSM programming. Even if we failed, we learnt the full extent of how NPC most people are... We all gave more than the old college try.

Personal success rate - 1 unjabbed, a few talked into stopping after 1 shot, more stopping after 2, in a place where most people have 4 or 5 shots already.

Re: AFIB and Tachycardia -- update

Date: 2023-06-13 12:07 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In my experience, people don't change just because someone presents a good argument. That's how most of us believe we behave, but in fact, mostly we navigate life by defensive inertia, dismissing uncomfortable evidence that we've made a mistake until evidence becomes overwhelming.

My wife's multiply-vaxxed mother went blind in one eye roughly two years ago, and was sent to the hospital for afib just this past weekend. Her husband developed rapid cognitive decline in the same period. My wife herself has developed strange ocular/neurological symptoms that coincide temporally with her 3 shots. She does not want to hear about how it could be the vax. No interest in the matches in VAERS. No, it's much more comforting to believe the new neurologist, who made up some BS about reactivated lazy eye from 60 years ago, and sent her to another specialist. Nope. Safe and effective, it just *has* to be something else.

I stopped believing msm/state-run media a long time ago. Most haven't. It's too disquieting. All I can occasionally do is ask an uncomfortable question. I'm just a quirky oddball, waiting for anyone who seems he to be looking for alternative narratives. Sad thing is, mostly, all I have is more questions. Even I don't want to go down some of the darker rabbit holes
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