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tinfoil helpsAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Good meme!

Date: 2023-01-24 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hello John, and thank you for your tireless effort against the COVIDianist Narrative!We aren't alone...

-A Spaniard.

A post mortem?

Date: 2023-01-24 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A general question for the crowd. Has anyone come across a "just the fact ma'am" postmortem (no pun intended) of the past several years? Something that clearly and cleanly tallies up all of the various threads that have been dangling, and narratives that have been found wanting, or wound up being correct? I know there has been a great deal of digging, FOIA requests, admissions of wrongness or guilt, much data refuting earlier assertions and so on. And also growing awareness of 'nudge' units, NGO shadiness, and outright lies that were fully understood to be lies, by the liars, at the time they were made. We were told this, but the reality was that. And, not to get to conspiratorial, but riffing on this weeks meme, many notions that were considered conspiratorial at the time, but wound up being wildly naive, as the reality was darker than the conspiracies could imagine (midazolam anyone?)

It feels like we are in a bit of a moment to catch ones breath, and a postmortem, a 'fact check' if you will, of the past three years seems like a useful thing to have. I haven't seen anything like this myself, but if anyone had, it would be this crowd.

Murmuration

Ecosophia Prayer List

Date: 2023-01-24 06:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tunesmyth
To those who are interested, here are all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared across the Ecosophia community. Please feel free to add any or all of them to your prayers.

Just at this moment I’d like to highlight a prayer request from just yesterday by an
Anonymous who had just gone into labor with her first child
. I am not sure of her status or progress, but I hope some here will consider giving both she and her child a quick prayer right now, even if the main prayer list never gets a visit.

If I missed anybody on the full list, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom you hold power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or at the prayer list page. 

If you are an anonymous commenter who has previously attempted to post to the prayer list page, I just discovered a couple of days ago that I'd had my blog settings set such that anonymous comments weren't able to post. My apologies to anyone who had problems. If you try again now, you should be able to get through.

Finally, if there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.
Edited Date: 2023-01-24 06:27 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2023-01-24 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi JMG,

First thanks for doing this, it is a nice island of sanity. Also I've really had a good and much needed laugh from the pictures you've posted each week!

Thanks,

Bob

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Date: 2023-01-24 06:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] d_mekel
I come here weekly for the meme.

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Date: 2023-01-24 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Current Mood: Weary and Tired

Just heard an interview with this woman who built tiny homes for years and was a punk rocker before that. She runs courses that sell for $4000-$10000 a piece. I thought "wow she sounds cool, what is she doing?" So went to her website https://www.fearlessceo.co/about

Scroll down on page to what "we believe" and instantly feel the gut punch. These statements are always worded like religious doctrine.

It's exhausting to be exposed to these total zealots. And its depressing to think about how much money they make being this way.



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Date: 2023-01-24 07:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] transcriberb
Great meme this week— alas, so true.

I think I'm going to have to start up a new category in my little archive of transcripts, and I think I'll call it cringe-worthy shale. Here's the latest:

Dr. Francis Collins and Diane Baker perform a parody of “Puff, the Magic Dragon” for Camp Fantastic
NIH YouTube Channel, August 10, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBopklQUzPQ&t=2s

DR. FRANCIS COLLINS [playing guitar and singing]: Poof coronavirus came from overseas, infecting folks across the land, Seattle, NYC.

[DIANE BAKER, in a red hat with multicolored decorations, appears from the left, making swimming motions with her arms as she walks in front of him before the camera, towards the right]

DR. FRANCIS COLLINS [singling]: A little bat's virus, love those human cells, next thing you know the cases grow and the world has gone to— it's a family show, heck. Poof coronavirus came from overseas, infecting folks across the land, Seattle, NYC.

[DIANE BAKER, stage right, reappears now shaking a plastic orange corona virus toy; she walks in front of Dr. Collins, before the camera, towards the left]

DR. FRANCIS COLLINS: Poof coronavirus called COVID-19 quickly spread like a wildfire now we're in quarantine. Now no one can travel or even leave their homes. Schools are closed, all kids must know avoid the danger zones. We all must do our part to protect the ones we love, so if you meet at least 6 feet and handle doors with gloves. Oh!

[DIANE BAKER reappears from behind Dr. Collins's shoulders, first left, then right, waving and smiling]

DR. FRANCIS COLLINS: Poof coronavirus came from overseas, infecting folks across the land, Seattle, NYC. Poof coronavirus called COVID-19 quickly spread like a wildfire now we're in quarantine. We miss our Camp Fantastic and joining in the fun, but nasty little little viruses don't care for anyone. An historic pandemic of its like we've never known, poof coronavirus how quickly it has grown. We will all get through it but things won't be the same. What will we learn from this dark turn? How will our lives be changed? COVID might be scary, but hope is on the scene.

[DIANE BAKER reappears from left, in front, nodding and smiling as she walks to the right]

DR. FRANCIS COLLINS: We'll beat coronavirus when we have that vaccine! Oh!

[DIANE BAKER at right, grabs her throat with her hands and sinks down]

DR. FRANCIS COLLINS: Poof coronavirus came from overseas, infecting folks across the land, Seattle, NYC.

[DIANE BAKER appears at left, without hat, now holding up a package of Skittles candies]

DR. FRANCIS COLLINS: Poof coronavirus called COVID-19, quickly spread like a wildfire now we're eating Skittles

DR. FRANCIS COLLINS AND DIANE BAKER [singing together]: in quarantine

DIANE BAKER: Yay!

2:47
[END]

Prosciption

Date: 2023-01-24 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Archdruid,

I had an interesting thought i wanted to run by. How familiar are you with "proscription"? I watched a video recently on the last bit of time of the Roman Republic and Cicero's finest hour. When they talked about the proscription the Second Triumvirate initiated after the senate lost all control it reminded me of the jab mandates. Almost like they were a mild form of that. .Gov wasn't putting lists on public buildings or anything, saying these people have no protection under the law, but it wasn't really that far from it. Do you think that might be something we'll see in the future?

This was an excellent video covering a lot of ground in a short period of time and i'd recommend those here check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8DBd3SkuS8

Its funny, in a way the Senate sealed their own fate by killing Caesar. The action they thought would protect them consigned them to doom.

(no subject)

Date: 2023-01-24 07:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scotlyn
A late reply to the topic of "Children's Playground Covid Game Culture" and specifically to this comment.

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/217015.html?thread=38732471#cmt38732471



It may not be surprising that your nephews are coy, because children have always maintained their streams of cultural transmission, through games and rhymes and songs that are taught from child to child and mostly forgotten when grown up. Sharing this secret world with adults never feels right!

Often the games and rhymes can be traced to events in the larger world that were of a disruptive character and filtered through children's play into a startingly durable form, but not always.

I am actually reassured to see that there are children "commenting" in this way on the culture that disrupted their early lives with this Covid Event, and that they have done so *despite* so much induced separation from each other in the modern fetish for creating solo worlds of smartphone play.

Children meet each other at school, but not so much after school for completely unsupervised play, of the kind that we were completely immersed in during most of our non-school daytimes, during my own childhood.

Where is the "spanish Fauci?"

Date: 2023-01-24 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Here in Spain, we had a "science Pope" with dubious infability, Fernando Simón, whose statements were very controversial and often very wrong. First days in the pandemic said that there wouldn't be more than a few infections, for instance (ahem). However, he became soon the "science" champion defending these "safe and secure vaxxes...(ahem ahem). After 2020, he adopted a low profile in MSM. Where is now this COVIDIan narrative pundit? I've found some interview, but unafortunately it's only in Spanish, from December:

https://www.redaccionmedica.com/secciones/sanidad-hoy/fernando-simon-no-creo-que-pudiera-ser-un-buen-ministro-de-sanidad--1651

"I wouldn't be a good Health Minister"-You said it, man!


It looks like that Simon found a new job...
I think that in Spain the diference between Simon and Fauci is, that in the USA, there has been until today a stronger resistance to vaxxing, so a strong antivaxxing feeling, betwwn the people. Spanish people have been more brainwashed and fooled to get the jabs, at least the double-vaxxing (boosters aren't so popular here). So, there wasn't necessary to keep sucha a controversial man as Simon as "COVID Pope", instead. However, Fauci has been ncessary to the PMC in the US to press people to get the jabs (and maybe better paid by Big Pharma).

-A Spaniard.

Demographics

Date: 2023-01-24 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The following is an IM Doc comment from a Naked Capitalism article,

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/01/why-chinas-shrinking-population-is-a-big-deal-counting-the-social-economic-and-political-costs-of-an-aging-smaller-society.html

In my view the whole article, while a long read, is well worth the time. Of course, left unspoken throughout this article are the effects of the covid shots. The refusal to even mention the shots is... astounding, revealing, enraging, and amazing at the same time.

-------------------------------

In fact, thanks to Covid, the US may be closer to China’s fate than we think. IM Doc quoted a story that reported that in his state had more deaths than births from July 2021 to July 2022 per US Census data. This is the first time that has ever occurred since his state started keeping that information. 23 other states reported more deaths than births over that period, and the US as a whole showed only a 0.4% increase, including 1 million immigrants. My trusty calculator says o.4% of a 331.9 million population is 1.33 million. So US population growth overall is at stall speed.

As IM Doc remarked:

In the article it states that 23 states are having similar numbers for deaths and births. Not exactly how it was presented yesterday [in an online Grand Rounds discussion] – “so far 24 states have reported their numbers – and EVERY SINGLE REPORTED STATE so far is having the same thing – the birth rate is down – and the all cause mortality is very much up.”

What is concerning to the epidemiologist that was talking to us yesterday is that the actual relative rate in each state of both deaths and births is right about the same number in all reporting states. This would not be expected in any kind of infectious disease problem – or at least it has never happened in history – they tend to have a lot more scatter. No – this is something else – something exogenous.

As I have been telling you all for months – there are significant issues with young women – and with miscarriages – finally, the numbers are coming in to make me realize that I am not losing my marbles. The ICD 10 codes for primary amenorrhea and for mid-trimester abortions are through the roof from historical patterns. Also mentioned was the fact that there is a sudden drop off being noticed by fertility clinics in number and motility of sperm. NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE BEING STEADFASTLY COMPILED ON A FEDERAL LEVEL – so this is at times like the blind leading the blind….

The all cause mortality – estimated about 5-10% have to do with COVID – and that is a stretch – mostly COVID deaths for 2021 an 2022 have been older patients near terminus anyway. No – the ICD codes for pulmonary embolus, acute coronary syndromes, sudden cardiac death, strokes, suicide, drug OD, and various cancers seem to be the cause – and the cancers that are skyrocketing are leukemia, lymphoma, myeloma and solid endocrine and neuroendocrine tumors…

It is going to be very interesting to see the numbers from all the other states that have yet to come in.

We were repeatedly assured this was completely unprecedented and was very concerning. The fact this is happening in multiple other states is also deeply concerning.

Guys, I am getting deeply worried about what I am seeing and hearing. We are beginning to have severe manpower shortage issues in almost every industry. Just getting a plumber is a weeks-long ordeal. And just from my observation, we do not seem to have a lot of people sitting around living on govt handouts as presented in the media.

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Date: 2023-01-24 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
An acquaintance said that “99.9% of people who die of Covid in the hospital aren’t vaccinated.” I know the media is saying this, and I didn’t dispute it (to avoid an argument), but I’d like to know if that’s true, or how they’re arriving at that number. Does anyone have a source for the US that gives credible numbers on the “vax status” of those dying of the plague? I’d appreciate it.

Got to get over the Hump

Date: 2023-01-24 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
RE: Intellectualization and thrust blocks


The narrative has clearly cracked. Now to use a childish metaphor:

‘Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.’

And here I’ll say Humpty was trust in institutions, but could represent many things cherished but now gone forever.

Well, it turns out all the globalist’s men are doing their best to put good ‘ol Humpty back together again, but the cracks and glue are visible, it is an ongoing hasty sloppy slap together job, one of his eyes is upside down, one ear askew, there are clearly pieces missing, his movements are that of a dead animatron.

Humpty is dead and the more they parade him about, the more people will notice it’s a freak show, i.e., they are now in a phase of actively destroying their objective with every new effort.

Now the controversial thing I will suggest is that for us to also cling to debunking this broken narrative *might* leave us open to being a thrust block.

How so? Now that we’ve moved into a sort of intellectual picking apart of the details of this narrative just to make sure what we already know (yeah, it's dead). As a result, we may be losing forward sight. I’d suggest intellectualization is a form of materialism and materialism is always looking backward at what has already manifested and never looks forward to what might manifest. The narrative is broken beyond repair. Yes, there is and always will be those who say it's not so. To debate them may be a fools errand at this point. Let us not focus too much on the obvious so that we lose sight of the all important forward vision.

And worse, the would-be global tyrants know this weakness.

Let me quote a lackey of the globalists:
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

Black magic anyone?

I also caught a quote from Mr Sor(cer)os about how he, to paraphrase, ‘just prints things and they become true’ and further, he blocks any media saying bad things about him (can’t locate a source for that quote, I know it was a recent Youtube video of him at some dinner).

But there is also this gem from him:
“Scientific method seeks to understand things as they are, while alchemy seeks to bring about a desired state of affairs. To put it another way, the primary objective of science is truth, - that of alchemy, operational success.”

And btw, that last quote is from his book named, wait for it, *Alchemy* of Finance.

I say, let us be wary of too much intellectualization or those who would push us to only look backward at the material facts (TJO…). That can be useful but also a trap to keep us from looking forward.

For your contemplation
From: (Anonymous)



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Connections with Neptune and Pisces

Date: 2023-01-24 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kashtan
I have been considering some astrological aspects of the current mess, particularly as it relates to Neptune in Pisces. I don't consider myself an expert in astrology so I'd be interested in hearing any thoughts from those with more astrological experience.

Neptune has been in Pisces since February 2012 (2011 had Neptune enter Pisces from 4/4 thru 8/4 and then go back into Aquarius for the rest of the year) and will be in Pisces until 3/30/25 when it enters into Aries, but then will go back into Pisces briefly from 10/22/25 to 1/26/26 before re-entering Aries for good. This corresponds quite well with the rise of woke-ism and the authoritarian left, and the increasing disconnection from reality and general craziness coming from that direction. Since Neptune has an affinity to leftist movements, is strong in his rulership in Pisces, and Pisces is associated with delusion and disconnect with reality, this timing makes sense. It may be a particularly problematic time for Neptune to be in Pisces, since it's the first time through during the age of Aquarius, which means that people are clinging to Piscean patterns of behavior that are increasingly maladapted to an Aquarian world.

Interestingly, the Occupy Wall Street protests happened primarily during the time in late 2011 when Neptune was back in Aquarius rather than Pisces. Occupy Wall Street wasn't perfect, but I'd consider it much more sane than anything that has come out of the left since. The delusions have just kept deepening since 2012, including but not limited to the Covid mess.

Looking more specifically at what's on topic for this discussion, the situation of the last few years, Jupiter moving through Pisces may be an explanation for some of the times when the situation lightened up somewhat between dark periods. Jupiter has been in Pisces for three different periods over the last couple of years. Those have been more positive times at least superficially. The delusions didn't go away or even weaken, but they tended a bit more toward happy delusions rater than spiteful, angry ones. The first was 5/13/21 thru 7/20/21. That corresponds quite well to the time when the majority of hardcore covidians briefly decided that science had won, covid was going away because of the vaccine, and they could go back to their normal lives and maybe even take their masks off. That changed quickly in late summer/autumn 2021 when Jupiter retrograded back into Aquarius, the Delta wave arrived, and the worst push for vax mandates and associated authoritarianism came about. Then, Jupiter came through Pisces again from 12/29/21 thru 5/25/22, including a conjunction with Neptune on April 12. During that time, milder Omicron had become dominant and the narrative softened and shifted away from covid fear. The war in Ukraine did begin during this period, but the first few months were especially filled with delusional optimism that the sanctions would bring Russia to its knees, Russia would also quickly run out of missiles, and Ukraine would win in short order.

When Jupiter left Pisces for Aries 5/25/22 thru 10/28/22, things weren't quite as bad as the dark times in 2020 and 2021, but still degraded, although this time covid wasn't in the foreground. The reversal of Roe v Wade put progressives back into fear mode and put more fuel on the fires of the culture war. Inflation got worse than ever. Biden's infamous Philadelphia speech was also during this period. Many including myself thought that things would likely get worse quickly after the midterms. Instead, it felt like we got a temporary reprieve. Jupiter was back in Pisces for the final time from 10/28 thru 12/20.

Now, Jupiter is out of Pisces for good (well, at least for the next decade). The effects may already be showing. The negative effects of the vax are becoming more and more apparent, and Russia is slowly gaining ground again in Ukraine. The big astrological news coming up is that Saturn will be entering Pisces on March 7th and will remain there until 5/24/25, with another short stint from 9/1/25 thru 2/13/26. If my speculations are right, we'll likely see reality bite into the delusions in a major way starting this year. It could be covid vax effects, the geopolitical situation, some other manifestation of the limits to growth and the disconnect of the religion of Progress from the world we live in, or all of the above. The cracks in the narratives will become gulfs, but I wouldn't expect the narratives to fully fall apart until 2025/26. The year period from spring 2025 thru spring 2026 could be a game changer. Saturn and Neptune spend a decent amount of the time in each other's orb before the exact conjunction on 2/21/26 right at 0 degrees Aries. I'd expect major changes around that time. The last time there was a Saturn-Neptune conjunction was during the fall of the Soviet Union. The last time Neptune entered Aries was the eve of the American Civil War. Whatever the details are, I won't be surprised if the delusions that have been building since 2012 finally fall apart in 2025/26.
Edited Date: 2023-01-24 08:44 pm (UTC)

YOU ENCHANTING UNGOVERNABLE here among us...

Date: 2023-01-24 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
[sorry no time to edit: i'm on mad fire with this idea and it's good for me and anyone here who takes this on ..i've just got a feeling like back when after art school something said: "now write a book about going cross country on a motorcycle after riding the motorcycle" and my life was never the same and i think it was the universe's clever way of bringing James and me back together... anyhow i mean no disrespect... quite the contrary as you all are co-creators and the reason i must inundate you with updates!....x...erika]

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hey, before i'd said the innerwebs require you check enchantment as the price of admission... however, you each here have transcended the expectations and incentives of the innerwebs and are completely ENCHANTED as well as a good on-going ENCHANTING. Thank you for This.

Thank you Papa G.

oh! and i'm being absolutely and wonderfully gang-raped morning all day and middle of the night about this DIY global BE UNGOVERNABLE campaign i want to help incite.

all the riffs off the word UNGOVERNABLE itself had me feeling like i'd gone into a party and road tested some funny lines to see how they'd lay:

THE UNGOVERNABLE CAMPAIGN (AS A PROMPT FOR ART): IT'S GONNA KILL.

Kill like Jim Breuer dragging meat hooks on stage, MURMURATION! (wink)

YES! Murmuration... who's FIRST is EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.

i see alphas the way others see dead people.

the kitties teach me sooo much: the first born kitty is all white with a ringed tail... we call him Ringo. Ringo was the first up the first out the first at what's THAT? and he's big.

this first-born thing must be a "thing."

but i see alphas. except i blew it on Rogan. i'll never live that down within myself. but come on... in my defense he was too PRETTY to think he thought anything at all and so goofy of a meat head even BEFORE the man show which felt like an invitation to sit in a wet spot for the duration of however long it was on... it seemed like forever...

anyhow...

in exchange i'll let you in on the "secret" that this ambitiously global "BE UNGOVERNABLE" campaign is the first time i've ever understood that Michelangelo quote about not manifesting something out of the marble, because i've only ever tried to make something out of "nothing," but the inverse (and here's our existential philosophical artistic secular divide, eh?): Michelangelo... HE ONLY TAKES AWAY THAT WHICH IS NOT ALREADY THERE... unearths what is inherent.

hmmmm...

ah... quite a different sideways take on Maya Angelou's "when someone tells you who they are, listen to them," right? because maybe they do not KNOW who they are WITHOUT you.

like the covidian debacle. it doesn't mean "now i know you so i see your weakness and can kill you!"

nah... when you lead with your weakness it's somehow STRENGTH.

it's a tactic. it throws off your "opponent."

this is related to scott adams' and lawrence choo's (KPOO) sense that this was all a team sport somehow and we weren't supposed to be on the SAME SIDE.

which we most definitely are and WE on "this side" cannot spare very many moments being petulant or indignant. this is a NO ONE GOES TO SLEEP MAD lesson because we're all living in a 450 square foot apartment now.

so unless it's machetes against your neighbors, WE have got to HURRY and rush in to the pause and start to ...

"weave."

that's the first word that came to mind and it's a good one.

we don't have to have a global campaign in a minute, we just start on our OWN to weave a different way...

because like Joe Rogan like Malcom X come up from a hoodlum... YOU NEVER KNOW HOW THINGS IS GONNA TURN OUT.

do we make? or do we only show what is there?

the enchantment of falling in love, right?

and thing is, you don't even have to screw everyone or anyone to get this feeling all good and tingly.

the feeling also of daring to be FIRST...

because if no one goes first, there's no SECOND...

ya dig?

--

i read a quote in one of the substacks about the covidians showing us "who they really are" and i shuddered... there's the Othering again. we didn't even miss a beat after two apologies and a tentative amnesty article... the devil always comes through the back door as James reminds me...

no. they didn't show us "who they really are," they showed us their WEAKNESSES.

and in the spirit of loving differently, as a co-creation, an act of creation, ART, aspirational discovery... removal of all the MARBLE... who are you, Beloved? ...Really?

without all that ego crap?...

not: OH YOU SLIPPED. WRONG CHOICE. YOU'RE TOAST NOW.

no. it's OH... that weakness... let's work on that, shall we?

and i'll work on mine.

we are one planet; we cannot divorce and there's no wildnerness left no one left to sit on their head and fart without us all smelling it.

as above so below...

we ran out of limits and bathrooms to run into and slam the door.

so... in the interest of creatively finding Another Way, a Third Way other than this old tired played out binary crap, i want to offer up a different vision of forgiveness and the aspirational romantic move of holding spaces for our collective beloveds to step up to...

well, i learned lately that i was right why the scott adams' out there wouldn't let go: IT WAS A TEAM ENDEAVOR AND TO ADMIT DEFEAT WOULD TAKE OUT THEIR STINGER AND QUESTION ALL PRIOR DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR ENTIRE LIFE.

that we wouldn't give them any quarter like how they think.

and that's why i couldn't stand it in their world. everything has always only ever been all or nothing. no negotiation.

it was like this in the 60s... the 70s... the 1860s... the 1770s...

but we're out of ROOM.

okay. i learned and Virginia Mountain Man learned: IT'S POSSIBLE TO NEGOTIATE WITHOUT LOSING YOUR ENTIRE BEING AND GETTING SWALLOWED UP AND BEING INSEPARABLE.

this is devouring mother stuff. devouring mother has a needy as hell side. also why i was scared straight.

how do we instead of ingnoring devouring mother's needs, can we meet some of them in a way that allows us to co-exist?

just throwing out possible QUESTIONS to consider instead of assuming everyone's so evil all the time.

3am us... we're all the SAME. that's the tragedy i've seen as Mixed Girl. we're all the same. everything else is drag and a con job.

i think on OUR side, forgiveness also doesn't mean we cede all our rights and give way on what we need in order to make things not happen like this again. for that i'm riffing off ¡EL GATO!'s recent piece on Rationalizing Rationality (linked below).

i jump from ¡EL GATO! now over to MURMURATION when i say: "yes! it IS very much about who is FIRST, and i'll tell you why it is soooo crucial in the here and very much NOW..."

--

why FIRST? because anyone who waits to go SECOND is too self consciously guaging audience reaction...

and we need firsts NOW because

this right now where we are at collectively is the pause. before THEY would take a peristalsis break on the global world and let us steady ourselves before contracting again and pushing us on down into the lower intestine where all our nutrients can be had for a song...

HOWEVER IT IS A DANCE:

"They"/Mainstream, are also re-grouping and seeing our collective reactions and reading the fine print and adjusting.

or: this is the part in the relationship where you go too far for the first time--you smack her face, you set his car on fire--and wait for that PAUSE to see how they react, then you know if they go they vomited you out like a hairball...

but if they don't do the math of REALITY as they remember the god in you, the math of insurance deductables the walked-into-a-door lies, you've got what we'll have again if we don't give them room to step up to themselves AND hold them accountable for the past as well as how much power influence and control over our lives and the world in the future.

until you and we all comb through the lice of all our assumptions (again... part of Papa G's oeuvre to help you unearth the fluff) we can and will again be conned.

----

i'm really here and buried my lede on purpose:

i believe in an idea if i've slept on it and road tested it like i did here. seeing so many others riff off what those words... the Giacometti of the situation...

i am going to do my best to make this a THING and i think it will become one. it's not MINE. i'm just being wordy and verbose and pointing it out now rather than later so that many of you will be inspired to ACT NOW..

don't wait to be SECOND..

that's what some Texaco executive said on 60 minutes once about renewables and how no one wants to be first because all the trial and error and wasted money and time...

THAT'S WHY FIRST MATTERS HERE, MURMURATION.

it's in ¡EL GATO!'s post today and there's no feeling smug about "choosing right," because you won't be smug LONG. the house is on mad fire.

as Virginia Mountain Man how long he or his wife EVER play smug with eachother. no TIME.

so the Absolute Vodka link below is because that's how i see this DIY global BE UNGOVERNABLE campaign. unless you're absolutely inspired to draw whatever you're drawing, it is a cure for the blank page to me.

inspired by Papa's tiny sideways photo with beard and long hair, i'm gonna do Papa G and Queen G something like the Pope and High Priestess facing each other. each will say: THE UNGOVERNABLE and their names.

i'm gonna need a ton of help because those two will be detailed like old tarot ink drawings and i wanna put "secret" messages and meanings in the details that'll be fun winks and nods to those who know.

ideas are taking me over. the couple shtupping on the roof on July 4th last year works with BE UNGOVERNABLE... a quick crude black sketched outline of an erect penis just blooms to color with UNGOVERNABLE underneath it, as does a homage to Hustler's pubic hair sticking out of a bikini printed with the American flag...whole NEW meaning nowadays with "BE UNGOVERNABLE" above it...

hell, an image of Larry Flynt with "THE UNGOVERNABLE" would be perfect...

i've always tried to get James to let me draw him nude because he stands contrapposto like Michelangelo's David and the history of the statue resting on one leg...

now i wanna do James as David with "Ungovernable" and he said YES!...

so this UNGOVERNABLE idea in any iteration could take up the whole rest of my LIFE it's so perfect as it's the only thing left i would wanna say to the world.

BE UNGOVERNABLE!

so there's my take.

what's yours? this is gonna be a thing... i promise you this... will you be there NOW..."FIRST"?... or later? "SECOND" when it's safe and you see you're not the only one in the audience as Jack Smith performs to only you?...

--

and see how that works? i can con you and make it so but was i psychic?

this is the artist's question... and you never know. the answer again is it'd be the same answer for you regardless of whether this is one life or you're coming back again.

you can love people that you cannot back away from. you can take the wheel from them so we don't run into that tree over there.

forgiveness doesn't mean cede the wheel and die out of politeness.

isn't that what got us here?

and see Absolut link for inspiration about how this campaign BE UNGOVERNABLE can move and play with the words wording lettering spelling language... be ungovernable with the alphabet... or not...

PLAY

x

erika

am mad with ideas so will likely finally be scarce here so wanna say also see doing THE UNGOVERNABLES as one of the exchange trading card subjects... because you all have been so echanting, i'm trying to bring what enchants YOU and since the zine was a bust (i get it), maybe THIS will inspire.

i'm being absolutely riddled ruthlessly with UNGOVERNABLE ideas like even any gathering are cat herding of THE UNGOVERNABLES.

but play with term NOW as much or as little as you can and where BECAUSE my prior understanding is that the more this is in popular culture the harder it'll be for someone to try and steal hip hop from us directly.

move the wording because it's CREATIVE and fun and what does it mean to you... it is a prompt this BE UNGOVERNABLE... riff like be bop jazz...

but also play with it as a concept so that it cannot be outlawed like okay signs winks thumbs ups and smiles.

i'll be back... i've very much work to do now that it's all laid out now.

i even see future UNGOVERNABLE art shows of the work. i really want some people to take theirs to the streets.

how someone wears it will be your giveaway...

do they twinkle with the tingles of being FIRST?
or do they feel... WORTH IT?

x

erika



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(no subject)

Date: 2023-01-24 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's hard to believe this is real.

https://iqfy.com/unvaccinated-silence/

"It has become all too clear. The silence of the unvaccinated was a dangerous, sociopathic, and irresponsible decision that has had serious consequences for those of us who received the vaccinations. [...] Because we are good people. We took those injections because it was the right thing to do -- until it wasn't."

Talk about projection.

(no subject)

Date: 2023-01-24 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Has anyone else noticed a new trend towards some of the vaccinated blaming the unvaccinated for not speaking up louder about the risks of the shots? For example:

https://iqfy.com/unvaccinated-silence/

If this takes takes hold more broadly, then dear gods things could get very, very weird very quickly....

FOURTH TURNING MEETS MASS FORMATION PSYCHOSIS

Date: 2023-01-24 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fredsmith11
Part 1: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/01/22/2023-fourth-turning-meets-mass-formation-psychosis/
Part 2: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/01/23/2023-fourth-turning-meets-mass-formation-psychosis-part-2/

Excerpts:
“Four things need to exist or need to be in place if you want a large-scale mass phenomenon to emerge. The first thing is that there needs to be a lot of socially isolated people, people who experience a lack of social bonds. The second one is that there needs to be a lot of people who experience a lack of sense-making in life. And the third and the fourth conditions are that there needs to be a lot of free-floating anxiety and a lot of free-floating psychological discontent. So: meaning, anxiety, and discontent that is not connected to a specific representation."

"Try to unlearn the obsessive fear of death (and the anxious quest for death avoidance) that pervades linear thinking in nearly every modern society. The ancients knew that, without periodic decay and death, nature cannot complete its full round of biological and social change. Without plant death, weeds would strangle the forest. Without human death, memories would never die, and unbroken habits and customs would strangle civilization."

"Fear and anxiety are the lifeblood of a mass hysteria event. An already psychologically damaged populace was primed to react insanely to an entirely overblown “crisis”, spurred on by bad actors who sought riches, notoriety, acclaim, and the ability to impose authoritarian measures on the masses as proof of their power and supremacy. This unjustified fear about a flu virus has resulted in far greater problems which should really be feared. The onset of this psychological tsunami of fear has resulted in the rise of a dictatorial state, with presidents, governors, mayors, and lower-level tin pot totalitarians issuing decrees, mandates, and commands with the threat of imprisonment, loss of jobs, fines, or beatings as the immediate consequence for not obeying."

Entertaining graphics:


Deadly virus




Grateful


(no subject)

Date: 2023-01-24 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
(...poke poke.... poke...)

erika

(no subject)

Date: 2023-01-24 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
take a rest, will ya?

erika

Re: Got to get over the Hump

Date: 2023-01-24 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
‘Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.’


that's funny because my SECRET logo since the very beginning this pandemic has been the drawing of a fried egg for that very reason! when i first made masks for folks at KPOO and trader joe's i put drawings of fried eggs on each label with "pandemic 2020."

erika

(no subject)

Date: 2023-01-24 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
...wait, Spaniard.. is this YOU???

i recognize the natural Vincent Price cackle at the end of your posts. you write for that cackle. it's the Spanish in you, the way American southerners have their own story telling tropes and rhythms and styles!

a lot of you with a few "secret" identities here don't even TRY and change your cliche habits or how you dot your I's or cross your T's.

x

King George III

(no subject)

Date: 2023-01-24 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This *has* to be satire.

I'm going to believe that it is satire.

What else could it be?

If it's satire, is it funny satire? It's so absurd and deadpan that if I went into it assuming that it was satire, I'd probably be giggling the whole time. But it rides that line so close it just leaves me confused.

(no subject)

Date: 2023-01-24 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The numbers that you want - "credible numbers on the 'vax status' of those dying of the plague" - have and continue to be notoriously hard to come by, for a number of reasons.

Attribution of deaths "from" vs. "with" covid has been neither accurate nor consistent over time or in different settings.

The methods of testing for covid - like the PCR cycle thresholds - have also changed, so the number of false positive has fluctuated.

A lot of places used to test everyone for cooties, but now test only the unvaxxed, so an unvaxxed person with a positive PCR test but zero symptoms would be counted an "unvaccinated" person whi "has covid," but a "vaccinated person" with mild symptoms might not be tested (because they're vaxxed, see?), and would count as a vaccinated person "without covid" even if they had an active infection.

The definition of "vaccinated" is itself variable and unreliable. Sometimes patients whose vaccination status is unknown are lumped in with unvaccinated, muddying the waters. Other times there are convoluted definitions of "vaccinated" - e.g., sometimes people weren't counted as "vaccianted" until X number of days post-second-shot, so anyone who got sick in the "jabbed but not yet enough days past to be categorized as such" window gets labelled as "not vaccinated." Or, people twice- or even thrice-jabbed haven't had the latest booster of the month, so they're considered "not fully vaccinated" and get put in a broad category of people who haven't had ALL the recommended jabs and called "unvaccinated." So on and so forth.

So the short answer is no - there are no credible numbers, at least none that I'm aware of.

And if you think that maybe the medical establishment is avoiding collecting credible data for a reason, then you're clearly a paranoid science-hating conspiracy theorist.

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