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ironicallyAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
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With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

longer response to VIRGINIA MOUNTAIN MAN...

Date: 2023-01-16 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
VA MT MAN: "Ohhhh its a long shot for sure. Thats why they call it the hero’s journey!

"Sketches. Ha good way to look at it. Leaves room for improvement and allows for corrections and revisions etc. makes a lot of sense to me. But then we can’t be dogmatic and fundamentalist and super rigid ego centric you know whats lol

"VA Mtn Man"


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i think this country will no doubt have another civil war if we do not figure out how to get back to each other as we were before trump derangement syndrome made everyone goes jonestown kool aid crazy.

the psyops/mindfxck will try to keep us at each other but i think how we handle this genocide is key because we have to figure out how to "forgive" those who wanted us dead in order to come together in old American ideals.

it will ask as much of us as "them."

this Mindfxck psyops stuff is embarrassingly simplistic but it works because we're separated weak and in our egos and controlled by emotions. i see why the transactional analysis guy thought those methods were simple enough to understand and possibly save this nation.

that's what Alvyn M Freed wrote in the short introduction to "TA for Teens," and i concur because that's why i was re-reading it.

this is all stuff that comes out in how we love AT HOME, too. as above so below, right? do we give our beloved space to be wrong apologize and fix it? and does our beloved attempt to FIX it???

as we have as a country, ignored the aftermath of slavery and everyone just goes about their business anyway after they've turned machetes on their neighbors, WE CANNOT DO THAT ANYMORE.

and we cannot niggrify ANYONE anymore. it must be a signal that we're off-roading things again.

we're gonna have to return to the fundamentals of The Constitution but we cannot be passive victims or countrymen any longer. freedom is responsibility, right? so is power.

we've been about The Stuff for too long.

and us artists have been pitching and re-writing the stories we were told to do. this is what Ursula LeGuin was calling us out for selling out.

we watched the firefly movie "Serenity," based on el gato's recommendation, and it was a MESS and i looked at when it was made... in 2005 and already they didn't know what to do with the white girl... the Perils of Pauline... the ship went on adventures and lost main crew over a WAIF with perpetually wet limp hair and no muscle tone... BUT she could close her eyes and shoot or fight multiple monsters... so does she save the ship's crew or do they save HER?...

a bunch of key people died... i couldn't believe a sister would sacrifice herself or her man for a scrawny weak crazy white girl... i wasn't buying THAT from jump... but look beyond to what is being TOLD ..ASSUMED... and it was a sign our cultural stories are now rendered meaningless and absurd and nonsensical...

like when the oscars were left to black people during The Great Coof Over-reaction and some of us saw a brother standing up for a sister which is another sign of New Stories...

but old story is light skinned cat smacking a dark skinned cat who does step n' fetchit... everything's so COMPLICATED.

why i've come to even think Sally Hemmings was on The Make. what's a sister to DO? better to be a secret queen than a colored girl at the bottom in france.

none of us are all evil. and Dr Phil's also already doing the work of re-introducing kids to each others' EYES so they know they're human.

anyhow as i watched Serenity which slaughtered the complicated nuance of the characters and gave them guns to blow off and clever movie lines that seemed like bad fan fiction, i realized:

the Cultural Revolution has already happened. as Naomi Wolf and others point out... the coup is already over...

OR IS IT?

if as Robert Malone says, this war is taking place in THE MIND...

well, then... now you're setting up the perimeters i needed!

because it's TRUE:

as i'm seeing it

we have to re-love our fellow humans enough to somehow open the space for them to feel like they can make a mistake and not have to give up everything in admitting it.

they are likely terrified and will be in a place of lashing out for awhile. they have been betrayed and it's all too ugly... so they'd rather think the dentist they told everyone to go to for a decade is still great.

ya dig?

but the covidians are like addicts and as they tell you in those 12-step things, as long as someone's using, the drug is what you're talking to.

....

so then that leads us to civil war or global civil wars because they give others NO QUARTER... so civil war IF we're lucky and haven't already been taken over by Cuba because of the state we're in.

that's why i'm interested in where De Santis is taking things: THIRD WAY.

the government knows it can do whatever it wants with us because we're like tenants trapped in a mobile home park that can't do anything about jacked up rents...where to GO?

but if Florida's feeling herself and gonna consider the single life and hits the clubs?... and if others states get inspired...?

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the fact that you, Virginia Mountain Man, found it an interesting and new concept to not TRASH, but REVISE... atone discuss go back in...

i learned this from living with James in 450 square feet. all the books we write are bluster and fluff: HOW ARE THINGS AT HOME???

that's why i know Queen G is ALL OVER HERE. Papa G doesn't need to call her out! it's OBVIOUS.

it's an ongoing work their love their life their relationship.

but things are too cut up and outlined with thick crude childish fat marker lines nowadays. but that's ON PURPOSE.


that's how and why we "other" each other or dismiss each other as bad or evil or say "oh... that's who you REALLY are!"

they're just choices, the only choices people were offered, because that's how we do things in the world...

BUT ARTISTS writers visionaries philosophers thinkers actors... the ones who put these options before us in our work in the propaganda industries or culture (one in the same quite often)...

time for NEW RHYMES new stories and that means mess and leakage and emotional outbursts angry sad scared...

just like racism and all the isms and any "victim" ...well, any "victim" has to see their part, re-adjust their position or they remain "victims" which is really just shtick for those who thought they were born to work in Human Resource departments.

so WE don't have the luxury of being indignant hurt or pissed off for too long in public. feel it then put it in your pocket because it has no currency in this world. pet it to death later in private.

we have to be CREATIVE and go waaaay out of our comfort zones to react DIFFERENTLY and be steady so that we may twist the art of The Mind Fxck by catching it so that we may jujitsu it back with LOVE as a VERB.

sometimes it may be Jesus up ending tables and sometimes it may be listening to them wail at 3am.

they screwed up. there is no reaction that will make you feel swaggery from now on. not for long because we cannot be divided and have a great day.

i just wanna push this try this first...

because players lovers hookers con artist and the molested... we KNOW how to do this for ill... flip it flip it...

to incite your empathy, try and imagine them not in their underwear, but as people with Down's Syndrome without all the kindness and openness and curiosity. or baby kittens. i'm still stuck at seeing them as kittens because seeing them as 8 year olds is even a stretch now.

but yes... i see my relationship with James as even a sketch. i'm screwing up now. scrawl everywhere.

but instead of making fun of them all for going crazy, ask WHY? what did they need? if they're lost causes, then what and who can we be to heal those who aren't lost causes? and fix it in the future for those who come of age in 2049? (see Naomi Wolf's dedication page in "The Bodies of Others")

gotta go. more to say but the computer is his again! sorry for heinous mis-edits etc no time to scan / mean no disrespect /trying to get ideas and work out there and here because feedback makes me think more...

x

erika

Re: longer response to VIRGINIA MOUNTAIN MAN...

Date: 2023-01-16 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The war is taking place in the mind. Yes i think that is true. It’s taking place every where really. This is total war. Also i look at it like tptb are aiming for total control. So this is really one and the same. Total war is total control and total control is total war. I mean what kind of frame of mind does it take to conceive the idea(just the idea!) of a nuclear weapon or a weapon capable of destroying an entire city!?!? Well think about that for a little. That is what we are up against. So i dunno I don’t think most people are ready for this, its a lot, its deep and its dark and its gonna take a hell of a lot of work to dig ourselves out of this hole. I think yes we will have to forgive some people but i think that day is far off in the future. How can you forgive someone when they are dropping a bomb on your home that is vaporizing people and melting peoples skin right off their bones? And yes thats a bit extreme but it has happened before and like we said earlier this war is taking place in our minds. What does it look like when a nuclear weapon detonates inside your neural network? Or inside the collective mind? As above so below. We could very well still be experiencing the fallout from a few scientists brilliant idea to rip the very structure of the universe apart.

VA Mtn Man

Re: longer response to VIRGINIA MOUNTAIN MAN...

Date: 2023-01-17 10:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bofur_the_dwarf
The war is taking place in the mind

Almost like it's an... Infowar...

Re: longer response to VIRGINIA MOUNTAIN MAN...

Date: 2023-01-17 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I visit this Facebook group for a small city I'm from or was from a long time ago. I don't even know why really I do this. Something about being aghast at how a small mostly blue collar city with sub-sections of the monoculture each with its own gathering places has been changed into a lego kit. All the officially 'nice' things they develop re parks and public places replace TORN DOWN organically developed culture (even if it was stupid to me it was still people gathering and communicating in ones and twos or small groups or roomfuls at night beneath smoky lights). I see a city block of gathering places (cafes, stores, an old rundown hotel where people could drift through town) now a parking lot for a cubed building.
I follow the conversations that go back a few years and discover that facial-recognition cameras are on city parkland walkways. A guy brings it up like 'wtf' and most of them go blah blah I like snails or whatever. there is a lot of nostalgia but very little critical thinking.
It fascinates me as a prototype. Almost like a war on organic culture. A war on whatever was.

Re: longer response to VIRGINIA MOUNTAIN MAN...

Date: 2023-01-17 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes, read Naomi Wolf's "The Bodies Of Others" for more on all this. It should be an important book now, as she wrote it for this moment, but it's likely to become more famous in the future regading this infamous time.... probably after we're all dead.

You might not read it thinking you've already got the postcard book, but you don't.

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Re: longer response to VIRGINIA MOUNTAIN MAN...

Date: 2023-01-18 12:42 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Exactly like its an infowar lol lol

Been thinking a little more about this today though and realized that i left something out. As much as the war is taking place in our mind it is also taking place in our hearts

Thinking of it in that light changes things for me and seems hugely important though I can’t quite explain coherently WHY it seems important. I just know that it is……

VA Mtn Man

Re: longer response to VIRGINIA MOUNTAIN MAN...

Date: 2023-01-16 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And yes i agree with you about How are things at home?
That is an important question to ask.
My wife and i lived in a 16 x 20 cabin off grid in AK for 3 years. That was tough but the inner work and relationship work we struggled through then laid the foundation for an extremely strong relationship at present. In fact we often get comments from friends about how great our family life appears and this is true for the most part but what most people fail to understand is exactly how much pain tears and inner work it took us to get here.
One of our many family mottos lol we got from a beatles song. “We Can Work it Out”

I also often think of how many families have been ripped apart by violence of various sorts and of how the pattern is overlaid or similar to the ripping apart of the atoms in the nuclear weapon
As above so below yes This is the pattern

Va Mtn Man

Re: longer response to VIRGINIA MOUNTAIN MAN...

Date: 2023-01-16 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes yes yesssss...
Thank you for all of this.
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