Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 75

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

No, some have been injured. They didn't make much noise, but there were some heart attacks, strokes, and such. Remember, there was extreme, but extreme pressure to not say anything against the vaxxes. The heavy pressure is letting up, but it's still there.

Also, most high-powered high-status people are extremely careful not to let anyone know when they aren't well-- it makes hem look vulnerable, it hurts their game.

I don't want to say who it is but I personally know someone who most conspiracy theorists would assume took "saline" but nope, he gulped the Koolaid, got his jabs, and then suffered a heart attack.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the people most likely to have gotten an intentionally fake vaxx are not the supposedly "important people"-- most of them drank the Koolaid-- but it was the medical personnel, especially nurses, who knew it wasn't right to be be making people take experimental jabs for a disease they had already receoivered from. Easiest thing in the world to just squirt the crap into the sink and give your friend (probably a fellow nurse) the paperwork.

But actually I don't think this was all that common. The pressure was so very tremendous.

[(Anonymous)]

Agree. The whole saline thing is a myth.

The elites believe in the vaccine myth of progress. And the nature of the vaccine rollout means that the idea that there was some type of organised conspiracy to give VIPs saline versions of the jab is frankly mad.

We know that President Biden probably had a jab injury after his booster shot. If there was some kind of secret VIP saline conspiracy he would be at the top of the list.

I know it is difficult for folks to realise but the elites genuinely think the jabs are safe.

Now, there was a underground fake vaccine certificate industry, and I'm sure quite a few African Americans with a long history of fearing vaccines got it and probably some medical personnel who felt compelled to get jabbed but it was rare.

[kashtan]

My guess is that you're right about the majority of the elites. However, I do wonder if there was a minority of them that were vaccine skeptical and faked it. Elites are used to being able to get what they want, and I suspect that they would be willing to look the other way about closeted unvaccinated within their class so as to present a unified front to the public.

I remember reading several accounts from when covid fear was in high gear of people going to elite events and being surprised that they didn't seem to care much about covid at all. This was often in the context of conspiratorial speculations but I think there's another explanation that's the most plausible to me. Elites themselves tend to be more bold as opposed to the PMC which is encouraged to be meek and submissive. Also, elites think they're insulated from the problems of the common people, so they could both believe the narrative that covid is a huge threat to the world that authoritarian action is the only way to solve, but also not be too worried about catching it themselves, after all they can pay for what they consider to be the best medical care in the world. Thus, I doubt too many of them are worried about being around closeted unvaccinated of their own class, but public dissention is unacceptable because their power depends on the narrative, and they're much more worried about losing power and status than about catching covid.

[(Anonymous)]

I believe that far and away the largest contributor to saline injections were medical personnel operating independently and without either patients or colleagues knowledge.

I also expect that the vast majority of sports doctors working for professional American sports teams gave saline injections.

The Damar Hamlin incident stands out because he would have been eligible for the vaccine before he was dealing exclusively with team doctors and these incidents had been conspicuously absent from professional American sports.