Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 75

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

Re: death rates

[dendroica]

I made a comment on Mowrey's latest piece that generated some discussion:
https://unglossed.substack.com/p/american-excess-mortality-does-not/comment/11795910

Overall I think Mowrey is just saying that there isn't an *obvious* signal of vaccine deaths in global all-cause mortality, especially over the shorter timescales immediately following mass vaccination which would be more of a smoking gun. Attempts to "prove" that the shots either are or are not causing excess deaths based solely on analysis of mortality data are going to be incomplete and involve a lot of cherry picking or questionable math.

All such analyses end up making broad assumptions, many of which will be wrong, thus they are one step up from models in terms of usefulness/uselessness. Although I don't think he is entirely correct, I appreciate Ethical Skeptic's analyses as they are more granular and attempt to partition excess deaths between multiple factors, e.g. this thread: https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1612191046636552199

Re: death rates

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-022-01450-3#data-availability

Life expectancy changes since COVID-19

this is a good article but no data from 2022 yet, only 2019 (base line),2020, and 2021.

Figure 2 in the article is interesting to see how covid effected the age groups in 29 countries.

Re: death rates

[escorcher]

Can appreciate vixen affected patterns are hard to tease out with all this. Not helped by things like overstretched healthcare services, strikes by staff (ambulance workers here in England today) and cold weather together with some people not heating their homes well due to rising costs. I can confirm UK has seen a rise in excess death percentages in the last 2 weeks of 2022, especially in private homes (latest stats here: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending30december2022 )