Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 74

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

Re: approaching the endgame?

[dendroica]

Joe Rogan and Bret Weinstein are now convinced that this tweet was fake and have deleted their discussion of it.

https://twitter.com/joerogan/status/1611021223487541255

Re: approaching the endgame?

[(Anonymous)]

I'd like to see their evidence it was fake. I say this because I have seen someone else espouse a similar view, and so I wonder if it is fake or not.

Re: approaching the endgame?

[(Anonymous)]

As people noted upthread - that posting could easily have been AS [Artificial Stupidity] machine generated or just a bot/sock-puppet. If so an interesting question would be who was running it.

The thing is, I remember posts from people seen online for years who suddenly flipped when the covid thing got going so, unless their accounts had somehow been hijacked (or in the long years seen posting they had always been robots), it seemed long standing posters were suddenly in the 'let them die gasping' party. They seemed to love being able to swim in a sewer of govt sanctioned demonisation of 'the other'.

In the UK it is known that the so-called behavioural insights team [aka nudge unit] threw ethics out of the window and deliberately set out to ramp up fear and use gross manipulation and underhand tactics to shame and guilt people into complying with the narrative programme.

It worked well. Though it might be argued they just took a sledgehammer to the foundations of society. The increase in fear and decrease in rational thought could have set up patterns that will reverberate for some while

The IM Doc quote that includes:
"I saw a tweet this weekend of a young critical care doctor who was one of the main instigators of this malfeasance toward the unvaxxed last year."
...suggests the account had been active in pushing certain ideas for a while - Does it impact that much whether bot or not, since the low level NPC characteristics of so many of the bipeds/humans suggests many people would not worry about that when all they need to do is jump on the emotional roller-coaster and enjoy some gov promoted hate-fest? I've seen it said that society was only a whisper away from a modern day witch hunter frenzy with the unvaccinated standing in as the current incarnation of the baddies.

I see little reason to think that this 'ride' is over yet. Covid got wheeled off stage in favour of Putin bad man - like a factory that switches production lines - there is always some new flavour of durian smelling field truffle to pop into the human ice-cream cone of stupidity.
;)

Re: approaching the endgame?

[hearthspirit]

I'm going to guess the evidence came in an email from the 4channer who made it, who was finally like "oh man, I like Rogan, I'mma let him up."

These twitter posts - the ones that the coffee and covid guy had in his roundup had me rolling - have their fingerprints all over them, they are just like the ones they used to troll the left with like 5 years ago.

Re: approaching the endgame?

[(Anonymous)]

My concern with that is that it would be far too easy to pretend to have created those in order to bury the evidence of the people who are actual insane enough to spouse such views. It may even be a way out for the people who say such crazy things and then get called on it. I've seen that sort of thing happen far too often to be able to accept that it was fake without the evidence for that.

I also don't accept it was real, because I've seen too many people fake those sorts of comments for political gain, which is why I'm asking for the evidence. I really want to be able to say it was fake, because so far I've only heard one person make a similar claim, and if it is just one person then I can chalk it up to someone finally losing their sanity; but if it's widespread, that's worth knowing because it suggests certain unpleasant possibilities for the future.

Re: approaching the endgame?

[(Anonymous)]

Read Her Own Posts at:
https://med-mastodon.com/@SolNataMD

Whoever this is ( I have not been able to confirm this persons identity )
I can believe the 'non-regret of repeating self-harm' post would be included here.

Instagram and Twitter profiles are private.
https://mobile.twitter.com/solnatamd/with_replies
https://www.instagram.com/solnatta/?hl=en

Have not found a LinkedIn site.
Maybe she is Natalia Solenkova?

Quizzical Evaporating Vole

Re: approaching the endgame?

[(Anonymous)]

Ok, identity is:

Dr. Natalia V. Solenkova
https://health.usnews.com/doctors/natalia-solenkova-841718
based near Miami Florida.

Quizzical Evaporating Vole