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they liedAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

Are we seeing a doubling down?

Date: 2022-12-13 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi everyone,

Read today there was success with mrna vaccine against melanoma reoccurence. What's the story behind the story?? Is this research to be believed? Is it the medical industry/pharma making a hard sell because of previous investment in technology and predicted profits? Or is this a cover over what's already occurred? Basically saying mrnas vaccines are safe.
Thanks

Re: Are we seeing a doubling down?

Date: 2022-12-13 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
One thing which has caused a lot of problems with mRNA tech, and indeed all genetic tech, is that tolerably often it looks great at first, but the longer term effects are brutal. The companies now have these products in development, and they want to market them before they finish the long term trials, and the regulators cannot really ask for long term safety data, not after telling everyone that it's not needed for another product of the same sort.

Re: Are we seeing a doubling down?

Date: 2022-12-14 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] coyote_girl
My understanding is that prior to the rollout of the EGT, MRNA tech had been used to treat some cancers but the results were less than stellar.

Melanoma is pretty nasty. Something a person does not want to get. Makes great marketing for another dodgy product. Given what I've seen from the current MRNA mass experiment, I will take a hard pass.

If one has the stomach for it, check out the comments section on this article from the cult of progress angle.

https://boingboing.net/2022/12/13/modernas-cancer-vaccine-shows-incredible-promise.html

Re: Are we seeing a doubling down?

Date: 2022-12-14 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
check out market ticker analysis of the cancer mrna: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247621

Re: Are we seeing a doubling down?

Date: 2022-12-14 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hard to believe but true, most cancer drugs approved by the FDA in the last 10 or 15 years were approved without providing evidence that they actually extended life expectancy or time to death. If they are further tested after approval, they are often found not to - yet removal from the market is very rare. Caveat emptor.

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

Re: Are we seeing a doubling down?

Date: 2022-12-14 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Remember thalidomide? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal

While everyone was looking elsewhere in the late 1990's, the FDA snuck in an approval for it so (drum roll, please):

It's now on the WHO's List Of Essential Medicines under the category 'Immunomodulators': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHO_Model_List_of_Essential_Medicines

This exact same thing is happening now with the mRNA crap. The investors put up big bucks to get this garbage to market and don't want to lose their money - so the race is on to find another use for it, now that the original strategy is a dead flop.

Re: Are we seeing a doubling down?

Date: 2022-12-14 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
FWIW, thalidomide can be a very effective medicine to heal certain nasty kinds of skin lesions. It was originally introduced to treat leprosy. Using it for morning sickness was a huge mistake, obviously (that was an off-label use, if I understand correctly.)

There is disagreement over whether thalidomide is appropriate to have available as a medication, but I'm of the opinion that it's nice to have options--different drugs work differently for different people and conditions. Obviously it's not a drug to use lightly. But its teratogenicity (i.e., tendency to cause birth defects) is not unique. Many medicines can be poisons if taken by the wrong person or at the wrong dose.

We depend upon ethical healers and good advice. I pray that our society can recover from this terrible situation and return to having a trustworthy medical profession.

-Ms. Krieger

Re: Are we seeing a doubling down?

Date: 2022-12-14 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The fact that you're questioning the narrative indicates you have doubt. Trust your inner guidance.

Re: Are we seeing a doubling down?

Date: 2022-12-14 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Because if you read it on the internet, it has to be true. Especially from anonymous strangers you've never met before...

Re: Are we seeing a doubling down?

Date: 2022-12-14 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've read that many (if not most) new vaccines in development will be employing the mrna tech. I have no idea how accurate this, but I know I will never take one of these 'genetic therapy' serums.
Jim W
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