ecosophia: (Default)
[personal profile] ecosophia
they liedAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] coyote_girl
Article on zerohedge that pokes a few holes in this sad pile of woo. It is academic bilge. I will take 'desperation' for 500, Alex.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/study-claims-unvaccinated-people-more-likely-be-reckless-cause-traffic-accidents

I would wager I did more real work in high school than these weasels did in their entire lives. The welfare bums who penned this drivel really need to get a real job. I am beginning to speculate on their mothers unsavory habits and failed medical procedures that brought them into this incarnation.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 04:40 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There is a mismatch between what doctors are taught and peoples expectation of them.

Issue is they are also taught to be very dismissive of natural options. What would make sense is if doctors acquiesed basic health and prevention to natural options, but were present for escalating needs, and surgery of course.

Re: be a Patreon somewhere else

Date: 2022-12-16 04:49 am (UTC)
athaia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] athaia
Sinfest?? Last time I looked, before I turned away in disgust, Sinfest was woker than woke (and had alienated its original fan base with that shift. It didn't help that fans who complained about it were mocked by the creator).

Are you saying Sinfest is no longer woke? How did THAT happen?

Re: RECORD SCRATCH RADIO WENT FILLMORE...

Date: 2022-12-16 05:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Erika! Holeee shale! You guys walked right in, said your piece, threw a grenade through the airwaves, and dropped the mic on your way out. I LOVE IT. I can't believe the cojones on both of you. I'm laughing imagining this on the local NPR station:

"...and I'm Mary Louise Kelly, and this... is All Things Considered." A little outro stinger, a bit of interstitial jazz, smash cut to... !!! hahahaha ;)

I mean, you said it all. In a less than a half hour. You hit all the points, but in a natural way. To SF ears, it probably sounded like right wing dog whistles, but the great part is, you both were OBVIOUSLY not right wing. The cognitive dissonance in listener's minds must be off the charts. That is a 50 lb sack of sand in the gears. There have been a few moments in the past few years (malone and mcccullough on rogan, kirsch on darkhorse, wolf at live protests, king on facebook) that really resonated with me, but this half hour is up there with the best of them. It's just real. It's two people, who aren't famous, letting it all hang out, in SF airwaves no less. Into the lions den. But with a little Sam Jackson swagger. "Say safe and effective again! I Dare you! I double dare you!"

You guys were great. Having listened to the podcast for a while, I could tell you were on your best behavior with each other. You didn't step on each others toes. Keep that going forward. Some questions: How did the host respond? Was he excited? Regretful? Flabbergasted? Do you think you'll get a call back? Did you speak much with him before or after? I know you said he didn't pick up the phone, but there must be feedback somehow.

--

Yeah, I'll probably just ask questions later. It is a challenge. This is the smartest, most fun crowd on the net. But, I need to find a way to not be held by the topic at hand. It has locked me into place, and I don't dig that.

I had a chance to show the kids the Hoover dam. Man, the cult of progress. At some point it wasn't a cult. It was the joyful celebration of a teenager realizing they had an adult's body. They could DO things! Real things. Electricity is amazing. Radio is magic. Flight is possible?! At some point, probably the war, the cult sped up and things went wildly off the rails. I've been pondering if rejecting progress outright is a baby and bathwater sort of thing. The town of Boulder City, outside the dam, is a quaint little town with a great museum. The old photos show families living in tarp shacks building an art deco monument to progress. They may have been living in dust, but they knew beauty. Even when they put down roots, after building a pyramid in the desert, their homes were modest, their streets walkable. How did we get too big for our britches? Was it just nihilistic boredom?

Also been realizing on a gut level that this whole episode of growing global tyranny is amazing good luck to live through. It's not easy, and will probably get darker. We may win, or we may all end up as soylent green, I don't know. But what a thrust block. What an experience to live into our fullest ideals. To stand up; to not bow the knee. To feel what the tea partiers must have felt. Common Sense makes sense in my bones. To the enemy who would conquer us from without, we say NO! This is a gift!

--

Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing more of the feedback as it comes in. Keep us posted. Proud of you both :D

Murmuration

Re: Well, Here I go

Date: 2022-12-16 06:10 am (UTC)
p_coyle: (Default)
From: [personal profile] p_coyle
it was a collarbone, so yes, above the waist. it was a long painful year, but as calvin's father is so fond of saying, it "built character." plus i got the bonus of getting noncompliant patient put on my permanent record, for, of all things, refusing to accept a tetanus vaccine if there was anything else in the needle. been there, done that and ain't gonna pay for the other stuff. that needle got put in the garbage.

so glad to hear you are doing well.

Re: Advice on affirming one's opinion and self

Date: 2022-12-16 06:41 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
1. When you are in a situation where you fear being judged, think of how many times you can recall judging anyone else for that thing. It’s possible you won’t be able to come up with a single example, and that can offer some perspective on whether you’re overthinking it.

2. If someone judges you, try to imagine all the possible reasons why they might have felt inclined to do so. You may find often enough that someone else’s need to judge you stems from their own insecurities or ignorance, and has very little to do with you at all.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 08:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Arguments for the demonic hypothesis

- there is a pact somewhere during the magical resitance in 2016

- there were multiple calls to hexing and calling demons to help both online and in books

- there is some recent cosmetic breaktroughs bot in AI and Fusion so is possible the pact were not only distructive of Trump


Arguments for god's punishment, here Icarus is a good example:

- bets only on the technology;
- pushes to much one techology;
- doesn't pay heed to Dedalus or experienced user of technology;
- doubles down on mistakes;



(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 08:24 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It’s semantically a mirror image but many compounding factors not accurately reflected in those semantics mean it’s not a mirror image in reality. A healthy person with a functioning immune system is no threat to anyone. Generally speaking, a sick person with a functioning immune system is a threat only for as long as they are symptomatic. A traditional vaccine keeps you from becoming symptomatic/a spreader of the disease. The Covid jabs didn’t do that, so any healthy person with a functioning immune system could logically question what benefit they would actually derive from this medical intervention. And in fact it is now apparent that they also face some risks from the jab that they may not have been exposed to from just an infection, including damage to the immune system. A less than optimally functioning immune system means such a person is, at least theoretically, more susceptible to becoming symptomatic and therefore capable of spreading disease. Only time will tell if that is actually the case, and of course there will be many individual cases that buck any trend. It’s clearly not about jabbed vs unjabbed full stop; baseline level of health is immensely important and local environmental and social factors and straight up luck will have their role to play in the coming years.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 08:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
yep, wall to wall, every news report on this describes them as anti-vaxxer, conspiracy theorist, anti-government, right wing shooters. The phrasing and wording of the reports is sooo very USian as well and so very consistent across 'news' sources. I have no idea what actually went down but I'm very sure it was not as reported.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 09:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Finally found the other side of the story.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/CyoyIa88dEa9/

Re: RECORD SCRATCH RADIO WENT FILLMORE...

Date: 2022-12-16 09:53 am (UTC)
stcathalexandria: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stcathalexandria
❤️❤️❤️❤️

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 10:32 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
All I can think is that the cognitive dissonance among the vaxx promoting cardiologists, neurologists, oncologists, and dermatologists -- and their staffs-- must be INTENSE right now.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 12:24 pm (UTC)
scotlyn: balancing posture in sword form (Default)
From: [personal profile] scotlyn
Testing has become the oracle... and medicine relying on tests is an increasingly oracular undertaking...

...and as the oracle's pronouncements become increasingly obscure, doctors depending on its guidance are rendered helpless in the face of oracular inscrutability...

Re: How do you say "Holy shale" in Chinese?

Date: 2022-12-16 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well, 75% will be recovered, and 5% will still be wiped out, or working on a case of long covid. This still isn't universally mild for adults on first exposure. And in China, that's potentially quite a lot of affected people.

I agree that if the pandemic itself isn't too disruptive, lasting anger over the effects of the lockdowns is likely. The government can point out that past strains of the virus were more deadly - but Omicron has been dominant for eleven months now. People would want to ask why this wasn't done sooner. As long as Xi maintains the loyalty of the security forces, though, there may not be much they can do.

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That's not a new phenomenon at all. Whole books have been written about the frequency with which undiagnosable physical conditions in female patients have been labeled as druggable mental illnesses. I've got some real discomfort right now and I'm not going to my doctor because I already know she'd be useless.

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

Re: We're winning already...

Date: 2022-12-16 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Wow, good for you! Not everyone can do that, but more of us ought to make the attempt.

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

Re: Vax rates vs excess mortality

Date: 2022-12-16 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I recently saw something that said the total number of deaths in the U.S. looked likely to decrease in 2022 for the first time in quite a few years (total deaths normally increase annually, partly because population increases). That would mean excess mortality is less than in 2021, which could suggest decline in vax-related deaths as fewer people got shots; but mortality from covid also has markedly declined.

I don't know what all these country codes are, but it would be interesting to speculate on the explanations for the outliers. Sweden and the US have similar vax rates; why is excess mortality near zero in Sweden and above the trend line in the US? Sweden didn't do lockdowns and has a much better social safety net, so could have avoided "deaths of despair" and deaths due to lowered economic status. Their population is healthier, so they could have had fewer covid deaths - but why would they not have seen similar vax deaths? Young healthy people are still at risk of vax-induced heart problems. There's certainly no reason that other causes of mortality should have plummeted just when they were seeing covid and vax deaths. If we could figure out what was going on with Sweden, we'd know a lot.

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

Re: Well, Here I go

Date: 2022-12-16 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for the sitrep, Slink.

First of all, I'm delighted to hear that everything went well, (crutches and finger notwithstanding!) From what you wrote, it doesn't sound like their core activity-- surgery-- was noticeably affected by staff or supply shortages. Was also pleased to learn that you didn't have to wait long.

Also a real delight to hear about what good friends you have.

Purely for historical interest:
--Bone broth comes highly recommended for bone healing. (Potential conflict of interest here, since I raise livestock.)
--When I had a serious bone break several years ago, my kid recommended comfrey root. I was reminded that one of its nicknames is "boneknit."
Powerful stuff, some evidence of liver toxicity, though, so consult your doc and herbalist of course.

May you heal quickly. Still sending you Light for that end.

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

Re: RECORD SCRATCH RADIO WENT FILLMORE...

Date: 2022-12-16 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Aren't you glad you practiced so much in front of us all?

actually YES! i am glad. and i read aloud what you wrote to James (thank you) and he said, "it's hard to know if you're bad or good... so if someone likes it it can't be TOO awful bad."

thanks, Temporary Reality.

xxxx..

erika

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Wow - it looks like Australia has 'climate change' really bad, eh? :)

Ron M

And the new bogey man of the week is...camel flu

Date: 2022-12-16 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Direct from Qatar, new panic or at least they are tryiing you panic soon:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/uk/doctors-issue-warning-of-potentially-fatal-camel-flu-symptoms-as-world-cup-fans-return-to-england/articleshow/96177805.cms

-A Spaniard.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-16 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Iain Davis has written an absolutely splendid 2-part post explaining in detail how we are being trans- itioned into this system of centralised, authoritarian global technocracy that is "truly totalitarian". It is the "digital concentration camp" that I have made mention of in previous comments.

His excellent analysis (based on the research he did for his book, Pseudopandemic) explains the philosophical and historical origins behind such concepts as the social credit system and the "smart city". It's apparent that these ideas long predate the "plandemic". It makes for a very sobering (and frightening) read and I cannot recommend it enough for those on this forum who are concerned about the WEF and its (very near) future plans for our societies.

https://iaindavis.com/china-technocracy-part-1/

Read both parts! His book is on my wish-list for Christmas.

Liam in Toronto

It´s an omen

Date: 2022-12-16 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/massive-aquarium-bursts-berlin-leisure-complex-emergency-services-2022-12-16/

...
...

A huge aquarium in Berlin burst early on Friday, spilling 1 million litres (264,172 gallons) of water, around 1,500 exotic fish and debris onto a major road in the busy Mitte district, emergency services said.

...

Re: Donor Organs

Date: 2022-12-16 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] slinky_weasel
Thanks Scotlyn,

I suspected as much and am fortunate to have PumaCat sleeping on me right now!

Profile

ecosophia: (Default)John Michael Greer

June 2025

S M T W T F S
1234567
891011 12 13 14
1516 1718192021
22232425262728
2930     

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags
Page generated Jun. 19th, 2025 07:07 am
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios