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me neitherAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

Re: Testimony on TikTok

Date: 2022-12-08 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Transcriber here. Incredible that this man is getting gaslighted like this, but alas, I believe it because it matches so precisely what many, many, many people say about their neurological injuries and the gaslighting they've been getting. It seems to me, the people who need psychiatric counseling are these neurologists.

I was very moved to hear him say, "And I've been going under the logic of wake up, get up, and show up, and that's really all I can do at this point."

Something our host said over a year ago has really stuck with me:
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/149639.html?thread=19180423#cmt19180423

"A good solid helping of kindness is called for at this point. A great many of these people did what they truly believed was the right thing, they haven't felt healthy since they got the jab, they've begun to hear about people getting sick with the coronavirus even though they're vaccinated, and it's begun to sink in that the authorities they trusted may just have convinced them to make the worst decision of their lives. That's a traumatic thing to go through, and compassion and a willingness to listen would be worth cultivating when dealing with them."

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Showed him videos? Could the programming become any more obvious?

Re: Vaccine Injuries

Date: 2022-12-08 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthspirit
No. It has just seemed clear to me what all the symptoms and the range of treatments have in common, on a symbolic level.

I could be wrong, but it has worked so far.

Re: Accidental help to the narrative

Date: 2022-12-08 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
When the BLM protests happened end of May 2020 all the way through the summer and the propaganda shifted to that these were "good" and "not super spreader events", I think that broke the spell for the majority of people. Everything they had been told to do was suddenly fine to do. At the time I was so annoyed and then frightened by how quickly things escalated (our local rural grocery store was robbed by a group of people in hoodies who just ran in and took whatever they wanted yelling BLM), and now I find myself wondering if BLM stuff actually saved us from a total takeover of all our civll liberties and rights. Because their flagrant violation of what had been imposed, the cognitive dissonance was too great for people.

Living through 2020 and I still can't believe everything that happened. What a crazy year. And the ones that followed too.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthspirit
Thank you, Octopus!

My boss didn't see it, her coworkers had photographs, so they are in the official archaeological records of whatever oil and gas project they were working on. Bigfoot hunters take note: check government mining files! It didn't look like a cabin, she said it was vaguely pyramidal - it did not have an obvious human use.

Yeah, I had never heard that before, but their assistants were firm on the fact that this was a common thing Bigfoot did. A Nisga'a person also said they make a sound like 1000 babies crying, but all the recordings I've heard were clearly just bull elk bugling - when they make it echo off the mountains during rut.

I think it just confirms Bigfoot doesn't need conventional tools, the way other non-totally-corporeal creepy critters don't need arms to throw really heavy things around.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Celine Dion's prognosis is a vax side-effect.
https://twitter.com/NewsNancy9/status/1600885586877108224?cxt=HHwWgMDSvbO9vrcsAAAA

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hippieviking
I think the first couple of replies to your post are pretty much in the vein I would try. Alternative healthcare can be great in my experience, if you can find a practitioner that isn't just a typical modern medical specialist wrapped in alt drag and if you can afford the care which can be quite expensive. For my own home care, allergies and deficiencies are potential places I'd start although the number one thought that comes to my mind with any sort of chronic health condition, especially something like eczema, would be how much stress am I under how much angst am I feeling? Stress probably isn't the causative factor but it can and does contribute to triggering or worsening symptoms in all sorts of afflictions.

HV

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthspirit
When my son was a baby and had hand, foot and mouth and stopped nursing (since he is highly susceptible to electrolyte loss, and they'd scared me good and hard about it, so I panicked), the emergency room doctor told me even low or no urination isn't an emergency if the skin still passes the pinch test: pinch a bit of skin on the back of the hand, if it snaps back, you're fine. If the fold only slowly releases, that requires immediate rehydration, IV if they won't drink.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Supposedly Bigfoots whistle. There was a guy who went out to an old growth forest road late at night and whistled, and something whistled back - and threw something at his car. I think Bigfoots are relict gigantopithecines and perfectly natural primates. But who knows?

-Translucent Jejune Octopus

An apology

Date: 2022-12-08 05:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] white_bear_chronicles
I asked the question here a couple of weeks ago, What does resistance look like, which got several responses one of which I replied to in a rather snarky manner. I apologize for that, but more importantly, I apologize for the question itself. It’s the wrong question altogether. The better question is of course what are the alternatives to the false binary currently on offer.
Along with the stream of helpful data shared here and the largely positive discussions of effective responses to it all have been speculations of demons and gods and greedy technocrats at work. I have thoughts and intuitions about these that aren’t always constructive but then this gem, buried in a thinly veiled pitch for bitcoin, came across earlier today on a doomer financial site.

There is a great difference between resisting evil and renouncing it. When you resist evil, you give it your attention; you continue to make it real.
When you renounce evil, you take your attention away from it and give your attention to what you want.
Now is the time to control your imagination and give your energy to what you want.”
— Neville Goddard, The Power of Awareness

I’ll apologize again for asking the wrong question and instead ask what should my attention/intention be FOR. I suspect that the answer looks more like an essay than selecting from a multiple chose menu.
Gawain

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthspirit
I think I live in an odd place, in that the people here are generally very wealthy (and very old). But there is a growing middle class millenial culture, and I don't sense despair in general. If anything they are more upbeat - our Christmas parade was bigger than ever with floats from all over. Very interestingly, the Santa and his elves walked, and came last and anti-climactically.

But the wealthiest boomers are very touchy. Maybe it's vaccine injury, but I suspect it's something else.

The one on my council I make froth at least once every meeting by pointing out macroeconomic trends. This week I knew I was being bad, but I did it anyway, and I pointed out that on on issue we were going to be bad guys no matter what, with no good decision to make because the homeowners in question were being greedy, and we had no law applicable against rank greed.

One of the developers spent the rest of the discussion twitching a jerking in an odd way, and people in the audience started breathing really heavily and turning pale. They were fighting it, but they knew.

The other councillor gave this thundering impassioned speech about people being allowed to do whatever they wanted with lands they bought - they owned it - as justification why he was voting against the motion. But I was voting for the motion, because it was the slightly least bad option; and his speech indicated he wanted to as well. Another councillor pointed this out to him. He gave another thundering speech and doubled down on why this meant he would NOT support it. The sense of shock in the room was palpable - a couple more attempts were tried to communicate, but it was impossible, everyone seemed to get frightened, and the mayor broke character and said, " We tried. I'm just calling the question."

The councillor voted against himself.

But later, he understood it instantly, and seemed really frightened, when the first councillor explained again after the meeting. It was like watching someone wake up in the middle of a sleep walk. I've never seen anything like it; one councillor who had been making frantic eye contact with me at one point said he had been worried he'd been watching a medical emergency unfold.

I'd thought our culture had replaced gold with land (Cortes' quote to Montezuma), but I think that clinched it.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for this!
☕️🍰☕️🍰☕️🍰

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Might be worth looking into allergy testing. I've done muscle testing when I was a kid with my Mum and found toothpaste to be the cause of my mouth swelling lol (hers was the method of putting the item in one hand with me blindfolded and then pulling my thumb and finger apart while I tried to hold them together, if your etheric/body disagrees with the item your strength decreases) and I've also done those allergy checks where they take a hair sample and do something with the current resistance too. The former one picked up barley as an intolerance for my child which was accurate and hard for me to pinpoint, I knew it was one of the grains but couldn't figure which one.

Re: The Club of Raving Lunatics

Date: 2022-12-08 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And if the goal-posts are moved from immunity to severity, then by definition the agent that does that is not a vaccine, but a prophylactic. How on earth the laws and regs can be stretched to mandate an experimental prophylactic is beyond me. But then again, as I remind y'all here from time to time, I have Asperger's Syndrome, and just don't get how "Neuro-typicals" see things.

When I explain to vex supporters that there is zero long term safety data, that most vaccine trials fail the long term study phase, and that while I acknowledge that VAERS data does not prove danger ("correlation doesn't prove causality"; which c-19 vex supporters never tire of repeating), it clearly suggests the possibility so strongly that the only responsible action is to regard the vex as causal until proven otherwise, suspend the program, and convincingly account for those suspicious deaths as being caused by something else if the vex program is really so crucial. That comment always draws blank if not appalled stares (as if I were insane), and the most coherent reply ever given to me was "You're the first person I've ever heard explain vaccine opposition that way."

Yeah, I guess I'm counted among the lunatics alright.

--Lunar Apprentice

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 07:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
Watch the fever. When it blew through our house, I was up three nights monitoring kids' fevers and administering NSAIDs as needed. I'm usually a "let the fever do its work" sort, but this one wanted to go high and higher. Otherwise, just hydrate and let them sleep. 8yo and preschooler pretty much slept 2-3 days. Was waking them up to make them drink.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you for this! Ive been making many dietary changes including plenty of carrots and will continue to be patient too.

The allure of the creams is that they offer instant relief, which when things get bad are quite useful.

Ill try to up a few more sources though and track the next few months

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Great advice, thank you! Ive been doing some food experimenting but some extra trial and error might be helpful

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Aaron Siri does it again: a big win for the religious exemptions from the jab in the US AirForce
https://thehighwire.com/videos/siris-big-win-for-u-s-air-force/

Re: An apology

Date: 2022-12-08 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"Now is the time to control your imagination and give your energy to what you want.”
— Neville Goddard, The Power of Awareness

Love that!

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Definitely when travelling it flares, so I’ve most recently seriously took steps to take supplements and my last trip had no issues.

Generally I am hoping upping certain foods and curtailing the obvious harmful ones will start to cause a shift.

Thanks for replying!

Pulse oximeter

Date: 2022-12-08 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Go to the drug-store, and buy a pulse oximeter to keep on hand. Make sure the battery is good and you know how to use and read it (it's simple). If your kid seems sluggish, check his pulse-ox (and temperature), and if it reads low, the kid is in trouble, and you need to get him to the ER NOW as in 911. Ditto for adults.

Or if the kid is not taking fluids and peeing as usual, especially tots/infants, it's ER time. I recall a case where parents didn't want to "over-react" to kiddo not taking in enough fluids, then finally bring her in when she became semi-conscious, resulting in permanent loss of kidney function and brain damage.

--Lunar Apprentice
From: (Anonymous)
Record Scratch Radio on KPOO Wednesday Dec 14th/1:00-1:30....

89.5 FM in San francisco or live stream/recording on KPOO..com

I'm practicing not swearing again as I've really let myself go regarding profanity during such profane times, and Mr Jerome thinks he's gone nuts for going through with this so I'm gonna do my best at being a Good Girl because I could do a lot if I'm speaking to my actual neighbors over a general populace spread far and wide online.

I wanna start KPOO dances to get people to meet each other and talk about new business cooperatives. I wanna see folks buy up and fix up our own housing and do our own small businesses who can promote and sell at events.

KPOO knows I have huuuuge designs on them. They, along with James, brought me back from the dead.

But first we will have to see if I can go a half hour without getting them an FCC fine.

X

Erika

Re: An apology

Date: 2022-12-08 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
All good Gawain, I must've missed the original question but thank you for this.

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dear Anonymous,

Are you referring to the Atlantic magazine article? If so-- I don't think there's a grand ultra-coordinated "they"... I think Emily Oster and the editors of that rag (and their presumable readers-- I used to be one, not any more) have their own I-am-so-very-virtuous need to signal and at the same time, do the flapdoodle to anything that would prompt their feeling any guilt and shame.

Ms. Oster and the editorial board are probably all, every one of them, 4 to even as many as 5 x jabbed by now.

Écru Undulating Bumblebee

(no subject)

Date: 2022-12-08 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm reminded of the cartoon-meme of the figure with syringes sticking in his body and the words, 'Govern me harder Daddy.'

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