Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 67

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.  

Comments

Re: Peggy Hall

[(Anonymous)]

*Hand shoots up in the back*

I am surely part of those regulars. I also thank both of you, and Hearthspirit, for constantly attempting to pop bubbles. Please continue. Even beliefs I feel intensely, I tried to hold lightly. I'm always grateful for pushback, even if I wind up disagreeing in the end anyway. At least I've thought through opposing views before I continue to hold a belief lightly.

If I had to guess, the McCarthyite and Nuremberg calls surely correlate strongly to how insane your area was during the depths. I'd guess in red and purple areas calls are lower, and in blue areas, despite the blue veneer, there are more grumbling McCarthyite's that is immediately apparent.

Murmuration

Re: Peggy Hall

[dendroica]

Thanks Murmuration.

Certainly the desire for something on the spectrum from apology to accountability to revenge will correlate with the degree of harm incurred. I'm in a pretty crazy-blue area but by virtue of being self employed and not having children and having mostly-reasonable friends and family I haven't had a horror-story experience.

I think you can make a strong ethical argument for tallying those who had courage to resist and those who went along out of fear and those who were true believers.

I also think that once this expands from the scale of a bank robbery or a mafia to an entire segment of society that has propagated crimes against another segment, that this approach is more likely to perpetuate cycles of othering and division than it is to heal them, and that it is better to leave the balancing of the scales to a higher power.

I think that to hold judgment and contempt for others in our hearts generates hardness and bitterness and can create a victim mentality from which it becomes easy to blame our problems and emotions on others and find reasons to assign others to the class of "perpetrators". This particular thought pattern seems to have poisoned the social justice movement. Although justice and accountability may be laudable goals, I'm not sure it is possible to seek them without falling into this pattern.

It is, on the other hand, possible to create a positive coalescing movement focusing on ending ongoing harm and standing up for personal freedoms (see e.g. Canadian truckers, Civil Rights movement), even potentially winning over those who were previously on the other side. That is the direction I would like to see our society go after this, rather than focusing on justice and accountability.

Re: Peggy Hall

[(Anonymous)]

Transcriber here.

"standing up for personal freedoms" -- that gets my whole-hearted applause.

Thanks for your comment.