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elephant in the roomAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.  

Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-16 08:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In case anyone was wondering how Burning Man went this year:

https://journal.burningman.org/2022/09/black-rock-city/tales-from-the-playa/no-one-said-it-was-going-to-be-easy/
https://buckdown.medium.com (direct link omitted for profanity, click the "What the f* just happened at Burning Man" story)

The second one is the most interesting; he mentions how the event was dragged down not only by the unusually harsh natural conditions but by a cold, Darwinian mentality kicked into overdrive by the pandemic. Interestingly, he mentions how the length of time someone has been going to Burning Man seems to correlate to how badly they reacted to the events of 2022. Newcomers didn't find it that bad.

I know a guy for whom BMan is basically a surrogate religion. He used to post screeds against Trump all over social media. Last I heard from friends of his he'd been hospitalized and they don't know when he'll back to 100%. He had a stroke, apparently, and hit his head. And the beat goes on.

The author of the first story also had a stroke. And both of the above authors, despite their asserted status as rebels questioning mainstream culture, never ask whether the Covid mania was indeed a good idea. The same thing Kimberly predicted for churches that succumbed to the panic is now befalling the burners. This might be more of a Magic Monday type of question, but do JMG or others think anything could be done to salvage their community?

I haven't been to Burning Man but I was considering it in the past after coming into the orbit of more and more burners. Almost all that I know of succumbed to the virus panic so now I'd say it's off the bucket list. An intentional community of creative free radicals seeking to live by their own values and forge authentic spiritual connections - and they're all vaxxed to the max.

The funny thing is that the second article mentions how burners were anguished over the increasing population of rich tech bros at Burning Man, fearing it would corrupt the event. It was certainly having an impact, but then in 2020 the burner culture was gutted from inside and anyone who tried to stop it was accused of "killing Grandma" and ostracized.

Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-16 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Very very interesting.
I've always found BM daunting in terms of logistics.
And by now
my 'alternative culture' OVERTLY days are over
but I look at BM with interest.
The tech bros thing + covid-a-rama-mania (sounds 'woke') could bring
down a wooly mammoth.

Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-16 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Like so many cultural institutions, Burning Man is no more.

Which isn't to say some shell of its ghost might continue.

Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-16 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Reed Art & Imaging is closing down after 46 or 48 years.
A premiere printmaking facility. Fine art-commercial.
I've never worked with them or payed them or collaborated but I always wanted to one day.
So I've been on their mailing list for a few years now.
Their supply chain issues are giving them inferior product and unreliability in terms of being resupplied.
They can't do it any more and they have resources and connections.

It looks to me like a harbinger of cultural infrastructure issues.
Maybe 'harbinger' is an understatement.
Maybe cultural infrastructure 'collapse' is more the word?


Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-17 01:20 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In some ways we are seeing this with journalism. The serious people are making videos with with their dogs roaming around behind them, or in view of their bed (and many odd views of dark ceilings), or the phone ringing in the middle of everything. One of the best independent journalists (and I really admire what she's doing), Alison Morrow, is now appearing with her hair tied back as if she were just mopping the kitchen floor. It's going smaller scale. It's getting rough.

Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-17 03:37 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you for this complimentary view of journalism.
Nicely described: 'odd views of dark ceilings...'
Sounds 'novel-ish...'
Or Cinema Vérité....
A Chilean (documentary) filmmaker once unloaded on Michael Moore to me
about the pretences of Cinema Verite he practiced...

I'll check out Alison Morrow for sure!




Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-17 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
She's covering free speech issues.
Here's her rumble:
https://rumble.com/c/AlisonMorrow

And here's her Nov 2, 2022 interview w Dr. Marilyn Nass:
https://rumble.com/v1rb7e2-ebola-anthrax-and-covid-the-odd-similarities-dr.-meryl-nass.html


Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-17 05:20 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Alison Morrow is excellent! She's doing god's work.

Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-16 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
>how burners were anguished over the increasing population of rich tech bros at Burning Man

Snort. Snicker. Do you know how much the ticket costed back in the day (I haven't checked recently but I'm almost certain it has only gone up since).

$200

That was just to get into the shindig. Then you got gas money and whatever you spent on art and food and other toys.

And you should've read the fine print of what you could and couldn't do in that place.

I haven't been to Burning Man either. Don't plan on it anytime soon.

Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-16 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I used to go to a lot of music festivals and they're just starting to pick up again. Most of the festival-goers are jabbed and the paranoia of the last few years is lurking just under the surface, so the atmosphere isn't the same. It's 'interesting' trying to spot and connect with the unjabbed.

From outside the US, BM always looked like a parody of hippyness to me. People trying so hard to be different, weird and cool.

It was also a great example of gratuitously wasteful consumption (esp. of FFs), whilst trying to project some sort of eco/alternative image.

I’m not much surprised

Date: 2022-11-16 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was once interested in attending Burning Man, but after some investigation concluded that it’s basically a party for those who have at least a couple of thou to splurge in a week on an allegedly counter-cultural fiesta.

The same energy and resources could easily go into, say, constructing real housing for the very poor in those places where shanty towns have lately appeared, such as in Oakland CA, and also into legally defending it.

But that would bring participants into conflict with real estate interests, and this is a big no-no. This would require some serious backbone. That’s why the event is held in the middle of a desert. The whole point of Burning Man is that it *doesn’t* make a difference. Instead of helping to create a parallel culture, it’s basically one big wank.

So No, I’m not astonished to hear this.

It’s a bit dispiriting to realize that most of the allegedly creative people in society lack the gonads and freethinkery to actually be creative, but maybe that’s just the way it is when your civilization is heading down the chutes.

Re: I’m not much surprised

Date: 2022-11-17 12:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The 60s drugged-up music scene would have fit perfectly at BM. On 'Revolutionary Plateau 9-b' (turn left at the tin sculpture of an ayahuasca vine) at 3:30 The Doors.

Maybe Malcolm X not so much.

Re: I’m not much surprised

Date: 2022-11-17 05:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've never heard it framed as a thing designed to specifically NOT make a difference. Wow. That nails it. Sort of 'peak consumer' dressed up in 'make a difference' costuming. It's not so different from Davos.

Murmuration

Re: I’m not much surprised

Date: 2022-11-18 12:26 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Now you've got my mind spinning with BM and Davos analogies.

BM. remote Nevada desert dry lake overrun with blowing gypsum dust. Lots of nudity, everything "free" after arrival but for water and ice. Hippy dippy wanna-be blissed-drugged-out commune dwellers and performance artists. All but one person I personally know who used to go regularly for the art or the commune vibes still does.

Davos. One of the highest Swiss Alpine resorts. Very remote but interestingly has outstanding line of sight to radio stations all over northern Europe. Hotels started for TB patients, next to cater to rich Europeans who could afford long summer and winter holidays while sitting out the frequent snowstorms in cozy bars, restaurants and hotel lounges, and for the most privileged at private luxury chalets or hotel suites. First popular winter sports were tobogganing and ice skating, the latter a sport designed mostly for personal display and flirting before it became a movie (Sonia Henie) & TV (Peggy Fleming) sport. Now it's famous for its see-and-be-seen display of wanna-be Big Boys for one week each winter at the WEF of those desperate to be part of the In-Crowd which is mostly only those who think schmoozing there will line their pockets and/or keep them in political power. Those with real power might go once or twice out of curiosity - especially the funded attendees - but never 3x.

Re: I’m not much surprised

Date: 2022-11-18 12:29 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I took a screenshot of a tweet originating from the account of Redbeard the Ruthful [profile] ruthfulthe (tweeted August 25, not sure when I saw it or where).

'Remarkable that two of the great early playwrights were sons of bricklayers (Jonson & Middleton) and were each imprisoned for their work; equally improbable is anyone of that social background being in the arts today, or any modern poet writing anything worthy of imprisonment.'

Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-18 01:50 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I went to Burning Man once-in 1999. It was still fairly fringe but the ticket cost was close to $100, which was a lot. The campsites were spread out like an Astrological chart encircling the "Man" at the center. I was amazed what a long, cold, dusty walk it was out to the middle of the lakebed where the Man was erected, waiting to burn. There were many post-grunge era '90s kids, plenty of old hippies, and a growing contingent of dot.com techie culture that was taking over SF. The wooden art installations were impressive, and the burn was a wild bacchanal. I was regrettably sober, but it all felt quite hallucinatory. I still recall the screams of "F*** the Man!" and "Burn the Man!" as he went up in flames and we all careened around the towering, flaming structure, waiting for it to topple. Very Wickerman! Eventually he became a large circle of glowing embers, and the morning came like a pale blue hangover. It felt like a weird dream. Did I ever want to go back? No Way. It already felt just about over.

Lurking Nocturnal Bovine

Re: Burning Man - snuffed?

Date: 2022-11-18 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Cold and dusty long walk.

Interesting description. I think I would have felt lonely
I'd ever actually made it there.
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