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Quite a while ago -- 14 March 2020, in fact, which seems these days like something that happened when dinosaurs roamed the earth -- I started a sequence of posts that invited readers to take part in an experiment based on my ongoing research. You can find the posts here: https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/81817.html
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/84513.html
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/86784.html
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/105216.html
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/122390.html
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/140923.html
The short form, for those who don't want to wade through a sequence of posts, is that a century ago, an alternative health practitioner named Dr. George W. Carey came up with a protocol that uses cell salts -- one subset of homeopathic medicines -- to bring about a general improvement in physical, mental, and spiritual health. After close study of Carey's decidedly weird writings, I worked out the protocol and presented it to readers, and we did a questionnaire-based pilot study that found statistically significant positive results from the protocol.
All this will be part of a book eventually. In the mean time, however, one of my readers asked a little while ago whether it would be possible to have a discussion of the long term effects of the protocol. Carey thought that it would take three years of steady use to make the benefits of the protocol permanent; it's a little early for that, of course, but it struck me that this would indeed be a good time to check in.
Also, since this journal already hosts a weekly open post on the Covid mess, it occurs to me to ask: if you were on the protocol, did you get Covid, and if so, how was your experience compared to those of other people you know?
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-10 06:09 pm (UTC)My wife and I got Covid back in March, I bounced back in about 3 days. My wife, who had two shots, wasn't as sick during the same three days as I was, but she had a bad cough that lingered for weeks, while I recovered completely quite quickly. It wasn't the sickest I've ever been, but it wasn't pleasant.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-10 06:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-10 06:53 pm (UTC)I'm unvaxxed, and intermittent on doing the extra monthly cell salts.
-Cliff
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Date: 2022-11-10 10:33 pm (UTC)My experience with the cell salt experiment
Date: 2022-11-10 11:36 pm (UTC)As far as I know, I haven't had Covid - I haven't been tested for it and the last time I had any kind of a flu-like or cold-like illness (one with a fever) was January 2020. No gastric illnesses either.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 12:00 am (UTC)In spite of that, I can report that I have medical proof of never having Covid- no antibodies.
Also, in spite of doing a bit more physical exertion than normal this summer, my back never went out. I can't imagine the cell salts fixing a near lifelong very bad back, because I can't think of how the mechanism for that would work physically speaking. And yet there it is- the bones never popped out of place like they usually do, so no pinched nerve happened.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 12:35 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 01:29 am (UTC)Also had my kids on the cell salt protocol, ages 7, 9, 9 none of them got covid, wife did not participate, she ended up with a sort of post-viral illness that took about six months to shake. Kids and I are still on cell salt protocol, they've been sick a few times in the last couple years, but nothing that lasted more than a couple days.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 01:37 am (UTC)2. Re: COVID. As far as I know, I haven't had COVID, although I may have had it in late 2019 or very early 2020, as I had some sort of lingering virus then that caused a great deal fatigue and upper respiratory issues. I tested twice, negative results (November 2020, and August(?) of this year. I've had 2 doses of the vax plus 1 booster (family pressure - seeing my grandchild more important). Fortunately, certain historical research was made available by our generous host on using specific cell salts to deal with the side effects of experimental pharmaceutical applications. Vitamins C & D,, plus zinc also helped cope with the jabs.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 07:25 am (UTC)I have ben on the protocol since it started and only missed a couple of days. I have not had covid and am not vaccinated, I don't get the offered flu vaccine either, I'm 67 & live in England. But I also live a hermits life and most weeks my only interaction is with the gardener who comes for three hours per week & briefly the delivery men & postman, I don't have to mingle with any crowds or workplace. I've only had one cold, at Christmas 2019, in these three years. I cannot say I've found any influence of the cell salts on my overall health, which is fairly poor, but I do think it has made me more open to the influence of the moon, especially when a full or new moon coincides with or is close to the days of my taking the extra salts. Best wishes to you....
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 02:32 pm (UTC)First Covid related data point was that in the summer or '20 I tested positive for Covid antibodies, despite never being symptomatic. So did the salts prevent the symptoms? I don't know for sure one way or the other.
Second data point, in Jan of '22 I got symptomatic Covid as confirmed by a test. It was like a moderately bad cold, except for mild fever the first 2/3 days. Chest congestion was slow to trail off taking 3+ weeks, but otherwise my recovery was very similar to my recoveries from the colds I've had throughout the years.
Final data point, since my recovery in '22 I've fallen out of the daily protocol habit, but I use the salts here and there when I have an issue. They seem to have a good track record.
Vac status? Well, funny you should ask. The CDC defines a "vaccine" as "A preparation that is used to stimulate immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose." Since I "administer" vit D, vit C, cell salts, clean water, & nutrient-dense food "orally," and since I do this in part to "stimulate immune response against diseases" -- it logically follows that I am "vaccinated."
You-betcha!
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 04:39 pm (UTC)More generally, the daily bioplasma suits me very well. It feels like having a good breakfast and ever since I started the protocol I noticed that my gastric problems are better and haven't come back with the same intensity. So I do feel like it caulked some energetic holes.
I'm pretty sure they have had a role in my spirituality but those are hard to differ from the other things I am doing. Overall I would say I feel in better shape both physically and mentally, more resilient to disease and also somehow "better fed". I think I was etherically starving because for a long while I felt food wouldn't fill me.
I have a data point regarding coffee. Coffee, to me at least, sends my energies into a jitter and the energy bounces all over the place erratically instead of following its paths. When I took cell salts close to coffee, I didn't feel they could be absorbed as well but rather got lost to the momentum, so to speak. I found that taking the tablets in silence and with the idea of them integrating into my system for the 30 seconds or so it takes to dissolve, to be very effective.
Pretty sure they've made me more aware of energy because my first take a few years ago sent an electric jolt through my head and in general I feel much more sensible to energy, in particular the layer that is between the density of the aura and the dense energy of TCM.
What else, mmm. Not much more I think, but overall small improvements in several areas that sum up to be a noticeable increase in health and sturdiness.
I did stop the lunar salts for the while I couldn't get them so I might have better results next year.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 05:45 pm (UTC)When the original 'rona arrived, I was designated an "essential worker" and in spite of not missing a day of work, and even working next to someone who turned out to have 'rona, did not get ill.
I probably had omicron last winter, but it was not a big deal. The weirdest feature was that the inner revving up for chills/fever tried to get traction for about 20 seconds, and then just stopped. In years past, that inner revving up would mean a miserable few days of high fever and chills. Not this time.
About two weeks ago I felt the exhaustion of incoming illness, promptly followed by the classic all-over body aches, and thought to try the Spanish Flu protocol. Strictly as a living history experiment, mind you. After the first combined dose, the aches were cut by about 80% within a few minutes. Took another dose before bed, slept well, and woke up with no symptoms whatsoever.
Thank you for making all of this information available to so many people. It's truly a case of TSW.
OtterGirl
historical recomends
Date: 2022-11-12 12:21 am (UTC)Re: historical recomends
Date: 2022-11-12 04:35 am (UTC)4 tablets of both Cell Salts #4 and #11 under the tongue. So a total of 8 tablets. Take at first sign of flu symptoms, and repeat 4 times per day or until symptoms vanish.
Don’t take beyond that point, or symptoms may return.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 10:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-12 07:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-12 02:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-12 03:41 am (UTC)this word "permanent" that you use regarding the benefits of the cell salts protocol - could you clarify it a bit? Do you mean "permanent" - until the person dies - or something else? Given the themes of this blog, it would not be unusual to talk about something that lasts well beyond one life.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-12 07:02 pm (UTC)Cell salts
Date: 2022-11-12 05:01 am (UTC)I started the Bioplasma and astrological cell salts a short while after the experiment was announced in 2020 and have been doing it ever since. I can't say my health has changed much. No major illnesses, some minor surgery, some tinkering with diet for weight control and to address Type II diabetes.
re. Covid. On advice of my homeopath I started the following on 3/29/20:
3 Brazil nuts per day (for selenium)
Echinacea
Vit. C
Zinc
Arsenicum album 30x 5 tabs a day for 3 days every 30 days.
Followed this regime until April 2022, when advised it was no longer recommended. I dropped the Arsenicum but continue the supplements and nuts.
When even my homeopath wouldn't see me indoors without vaccine I got (on her advice) the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. Since there are no boosters I would have to start over with another brand to get boosters, which I have no intention of doing.
I have definitely been exposed to COVID at least twice, in restaurant and automobile on one occasion with my grandson who was diagnosed in the next couple of days. I wore masks when required but did not particularly restrict my activities. I have been tested twice before other medical procedures. To the best of my knowledge, I have not had a case of COVID. (insert traditional “Knock wood”)
Since it is not expensive or difficult, I will probably continue the astrological cell salt regime for the foreseeable future.
Rita
Bioplasma
Date: 2022-11-12 05:23 am (UTC)Rita
Re: Bioplasma
Date: 2022-11-12 09:26 pm (UTC)Re: Bioplasma
Date: 2022-11-12 11:15 pm (UTC)https://hylands.com/products/hylands-bioplasma?variant=39968298762310
-- still lists 1000-tablet bottles of the old type for sale.
Re: Bioplasma
Date: 2022-11-12 10:44 pm (UTC)Re: Bioplasma
Date: 2022-11-13 12:02 am (UTC)https://www.newtonlabs.net/
https://jacksonsnaturals.com/
https://www.aaronsonspharmacy.com/products/homeopathic-tablets-cell-salts
https://www.rxhomeo.com/homeopathic-cell-salts.html
Re: Bioplasma
Date: 2022-11-13 12:06 am (UTC)Re: Bioplasma
Date: 2022-11-13 06:30 pm (UTC)Cetiosaurus
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-13 07:47 am (UTC)My wife, who was not doing the protocol, had a similar pattern; then again, I have several coworkers who had symptoms much worse during the same time (the disease ripped through our workplace and seven others caught it at the same time). It seems to me that in this case, vaccination was clearly the deciding factor-- my wife and I were both unvaccinated, whereas vaccinated folks had more grueling symptoms, and often weren't fully recovered after 10 days. Based on the fact that my wife's experience resembled mine, I don't believe that the protocol made a great deal of difference in the specific case of my Covid.
On the matter of supply, in a couple of days I'm about to start a month or two where I go without Bioplasm. While Hylands is still producing Bioplasm, as far as I can tell it hasn't been getting out to any of the usual Asian suppliers for a few months. Last week I ordered some more to an American family member's address; they will send it on to me for a Christmas, but I'll have a month or two gap in the meantime.
I'm very much looking forward to the instructions on how to make our own cell salts! If it's doable, that will be a much more dependable option given the strange economic times that seem likely ahead.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-13 04:41 pm (UTC)I had Covid for the first time in September 2022; my husband and son got it in June 2022, my daughter in September and she gave it to me. None of them are on the protocol. My husband and son both had it the worst, with fevers, leg aches, cough, sore throat. My husband's lasted about a week in a more acute phase and a half and my son's was a couple days, went away, then came back for another day or so. My daughter's was the mildest; a fever for a day, two days coughing in bed, then back to running a 5k race the next day. I was the only one who never got a fever. I was achy and exhausted for about 2-3 days, then had a lingering cough and some residual tiredness for about 14 days. We're all unvaccinated except for my husband.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-13 04:45 pm (UTC)Cell Salt Protocol Question
Date: 2022-11-13 07:34 pm (UTC)I was born 17 days before my due date, which is not really considered premature. However, should I factor that in in deciding what cell salts to take?
Re: Cell Salt Protocol Question
Date: 2022-11-14 02:25 am (UTC)Kali Phos. 2, Nat. Sulph. 3, Kali Mur. 3, Calc. Fluor. 1
The next 10 degree section is this:
Kali Phos. 1, Nat. Sulph. 3, Kali Mur. 3, Calc. Fluor. 2
So if that was your birthdate, yours would be:
Kali Phos. 2, Nat. Sulph. 3, Kali Mur. 3, Calc. Fluor. 2
Does that make sense?
Re: Cell Salt Protocol Question
Date: 2022-11-14 03:42 pm (UTC)So I was born Aug. 2 which 9 degree Leo:
0°-10° Leo Mag. Phos. 2, Kali Sulph. 3, Nat. Phos. 3, Calc. Sulph. 1
The next 2 ten degree segments are:
11°-20° “ Mag. Phos. 1, Kali Sulph. 3, Nat. Phos. 3, Calc. Sulph. 2
21°-30° “ Kali Sulph. 3, Nat. Phos. 3, Calc. Sulph. 3
However, Aug. 19, which was my due date, is 26 degrees. So should I go up 2 10 degree sections, then?
Would I therefore then take Mag Phos 2, Kali Phos 3, Nat Phos 3, Calc Sulph 3?
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-13 08:56 pm (UTC)I'm unjabbed and work in a very public-facing job and reckon the protocol helped me resist covid until this past September. My very rapid onset illness was a moderate, flu-like affair, two days in bed with a 102 fever w/ aches, minimal food, ivermectin then another 4-5 days to feel fully recovered. I'm 69 and in reasonably good health. This illness was no big deal and now I have at least some measure of all-natural immunity. I doubt I'll get it again but only time will tell.
Excellent news that you'll produce a book on this. Home production of these also sounds very intriguing...looking forward to your post on that. The change with Hyland's is a bit confusing. While they still list the old style 1000 tab bottle, it doesn't appear to be actually purchasable. I did locate a site that still has the old version but they make it very clear that once their inventory is gone, it's gone for good. I decided to stock up. Here's their website: http://www.cellsaltstissuesaltsworld.com/hylandsbasic12
JMG, thanks so much for sharing this important work with us. Hope it finds a wider audience in due time.
Jim W
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-14 01:47 am (UTC)I've been doing the protocol (regular salts plus the Libra regimen) since about May or June of 2021. I can't say that it has helped with Covid. I might have gotten Covid in the Fall of 2020, but I'm not sure if my short-lived bout of extreme tiredness was Covid. In any case it was before the protocol started.
I did quit for about a month to see if anything would change. What I can say is that when I went back on the protocol, I felt more robust. It wasn't a strong feeling, just an overall feeling. Hope this helps.
Jon
Tangerine Tangential Cactus
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-14 02:32 am (UTC)I'm unvaxxed and had covid twice, both in 2022. Both times recovered at home with rest. I normally don't get sick at all, so the fact that it got me was a minor surprise. It wasn't bad, but I didn't enjoy it, either.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-14 02:38 am (UTC)For what it's worth, my wife and I both caught Covid in April of 2020. I've had colds that were worse: three days spent mostly sleeping, plus cell salts, took care of it. Sara needed an extra day and had her usual long-tail symptoms, but then she has some chronic health issues.
We're both unspiked and on the protocol.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-14 03:03 am (UTC)Enduring a severe cold lately. Three of the new Bioplasma dissolved beneath the tongue provides noticeable improvement for 4-6 hours or so. Sort of what I would expect out of a broad-spectrum severe cold or flu med.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-14 03:35 am (UTC)Unspiked is funny, I'm going to use that one
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-14 05:15 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-14 05:19 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-14 11:13 pm (UTC)Schuessler also have “tissue salt oral spray”, I get the impression it’s an option for those who can’t or don’t want to take the tablets with lactose in them. Do you see any issues with following the protocol using a spray rather than a tablet?
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-29 04:48 am (UTC)