Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 66
Nov. 8th, 2022 01:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Dr John Campbell
Date: 2022-11-11 02:34 pm (UTC)Forumistas: we have a definitive mega-crack.
PS Dear JMG, my belated but very heartfelt thanks for this week's hosting.
Cetiosaurus
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 03:07 pm (UTC)All other preparations that go under the rubric of "vaccination" are not "immunisations" as they do not produce immunity.
Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision
Date: 2022-11-11 03:45 pm (UTC)"NaZI-ing" "Not SEEing"
I see what you did there, Mark... ;)
To SEE the human is what redeems the human.
Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision
Date: 2022-11-11 03:53 pm (UTC)Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision
Date: 2022-11-11 04:41 pm (UTC)It is some sort of magic too, the imagination that can be a civil war, an there is a retoric on both sides that violence is escathological and that can fix many evils and injustices. That seems to be the single point both sides agree, that is a dangerous point.
Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision
Date: 2022-11-11 04:42 pm (UTC)Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision
Date: 2022-11-11 04:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 04:45 pm (UTC)An absolutely savage bit of satire (can you really even call it that?) in response to calls for Covid "Amnesty".
Very well done, and I think it sums up how most people are feeling these days.
Almost 40k views, and still hasn't been taken down.
Re: The best of Kunstler on this Friday, IMHO
Date: 2022-11-11 04:50 pm (UTC)It's cool to hang with the sheep, but when they start foaming at the mouth then, boy howdy, do you have a Big Problemo.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 04:52 pm (UTC)Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision
Date: 2022-11-11 04:52 pm (UTC)I think it would be reasonable to make a counterargument that there isn't really anything we can do about "collective human nature" and so the best we can do is enforce individual accountability and punishment as we do for other forms of immoral and illegal behavior.
I *do* think there is value to be gained by looking deeper though, as Eisenstein does in his writings. If destructive and dehumanizing movements take on a life of their own and become bigger than, more powerful than any of the human beings involved, does it really solve that much to put some humans on trial for crimes against humanity? Or might it be more helpful to have their *ideas* and *motivations* put on trial as well? What if the lesson learned from the Nazi genocide was not just about the evilness of Hitler and Goebbels and antisemitism but about the evilness of dehumanization and othering more broadly? If this lesson had been used to write new charters of rights and freedoms, new constitutional amendments, would it have put us in a better place today? If we get an opportunity for Nuremberg II, can we make it more about building guardrails to prevent a recurrence than about punishing and humiliating particular human beings?
Re: Bobbie Anne Cox on the NY State Quaratine Camps Regulation
Date: 2022-11-11 04:53 pm (UTC)Re: Mucky state of the collective astral around here
Date: 2022-11-11 05:30 pm (UTC)Follow the right poll.
Re: Unexpected Truckers Commission News Flash
Date: 2022-11-11 05:36 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 06:10 pm (UTC)Not really sure how to do that since my baby is only 9 months old. Well, I emailed someone I saw on a resources for homeschoolers list, and applied to join a facebook group. (Haven't heard back from either.) But why would the facebook group let someone join who just has a baby? I just feel weird about this.
I already struck out with the recommendations from homeschooling relatives who used to live here and have since moved away. Those docs have either retired or aren't taking new patients.
:facepalm:
Any suggestions on how to approach (or even find) homeschoolers given that I don't have any school-age kids? I guess I'm lucky that I actually *have* always planned to homeschool but...
-Ochre Shabby Sea Serpent
Re: A bit off topic: JHK on US elections
Date: 2022-11-11 06:17 pm (UTC)Re: Unexpected Truckers Commission News Flash
Date: 2022-11-11 06:28 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 06:38 pm (UTC)Re: Unexpected Truckers Commission News Flash
Date: 2022-11-11 06:39 pm (UTC)-Translucent Jejune Octopus
Re: Eisenstein - The Mask of Derision
Date: 2022-11-11 06:42 pm (UTC)I found his position unworkable in that he used "we" as a pronoun often and his use of language encourages the mob mentality he says he doesn't want to see.
Re: QR CODE
Date: 2022-11-11 06:45 pm (UTC)-Translucent Jejune Octopus
Re: We're on our own...
Date: 2022-11-11 06:48 pm (UTC)Many months ago it was said somewhere on one of these Covid posts: "99 out of 100 of all the storm troopers you see are cardboard cut-outs" -
It may be worth adding that, taking the whole of human complexity into account, "99/100's of the chasm you see is a painting on the sidewalk."
https://metanamorph.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/The-Crevasse-people-posing-1442x1082.jpg
Which is to say, that it is easier to put a little "policeman" or a little "scary monster" or a little "reason to be suspicious of others" into a person's head and get THEM to make all the subsequent moves, than it is to mobilise enough actual policemen to control every single person, or deploy actual scary monsters, or actually MAKE the neighbours existentially threatening in every case.
To resist having someone else's little ectomorph take root inside us, requires that we discern well WHICH is the one stormtrooper that actually needs to be fought, and WHICH is the chasm that is unbridgeable, while letting the other cardboard cutouts and sidewalk paintings dissipate of their own accord.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-11 06:54 pm (UTC)-A Spaniard.
Re: breaking the binary
Date: 2022-11-11 06:58 pm (UTC)The thing is that there were so many "mixed" neighbourhoods and marriages, and families, throughout Northern Ireland in the 1950's, but it suited the extremists on both sides to "unmix" them. This did not happen as an inevitability, but by dint of actual terror and fright being visited on whatever "wrong uns" did not "fit" in the neighbourhood they were in, until segregated neighbourhoods got ever more so, and those who had happily "mixed" got forced to pick a side, and if that meant picking *against* half of their own family, that's what it meant.
I also remember reading a blog by someone called "riverbend girl" in the very, very early days of the Iraq war. Where she described the exact same process happening around her. Whereas the year before, knowing whether someone was Sunni or Shia was neither necessary nor important, all of a sudden everyone had to "declare" for one or the other, and anyone happily mixing had to "unmix" or have their house burnt down. Both processes, once set in motion, were exceedingly difficult to stop, and demonstrate that it can be the most intractable, the most intemperate, the most intolerant minority who can set their stamp on everyone else.
Good examples of what not to do.
Re: Mucky state of the collective astral around here
Date: 2022-11-11 07:27 pm (UTC)If you don't know the kind of person I am
and I don't know the kind of person you are
a pattern that others made may prevail in the world
and following the wrong god home we may miss our star.
For there is many a small betrayal in the mind,
a shrug that lets the fragile sequence break,
sending with shouts the terrible errors of childhood
storming out to play through the broken dike.
And as elephants parade holding each elephant's tail,
but if one wanders, the circus won't find the park,
I call it cruel and maybe the root of all cruetly
to know what occurs but not recognize the fact.
And so I appeal to a voice, to something shadowy,
a remote important region in all who talk;
though we could fool each other, we should consider -
lest the parade of our mutual life get lost in the dark.
For it is important that awake people be awake,
or a breaking line may discourage them back to sleep;
the signals we give - yes or no, or maybe -
should be clear; the darkness around us is deep.