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the reason whyAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.    

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Date: 2022-11-05 11:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The guy who won the Brazilian election - and I feel like I should put scare quotes around won - just announced that for parents to receive their welfare payments for children and to attend school, the kids have to be vaccinated against covid. And Lula is going to be featured at the next WEF meeting.

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Date: 2022-11-05 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"The guy who won the Brazilian election - and I feel like I should put scare quotes around won - just announced that for parents to receive their welfare payments for children and to attend school, the kids have to be vaccinated against covid. And Lula is going to be featured at the next WEF meeting."

Do you have a source for these statements?

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Date: 2022-11-05 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
When the USG comes out in support of a presidential candidate in another country in a close election, then goes on to state that if the guy they like doesn't win, there must be election fraud - I assume the USG has rigged their election in some way so they get the guy they want.

The USG has manipulated elections in foreign countries since the 1870's. It was a major issue in presidential campaigns at the turn of the 20th century but the imperialists won then and the USG has been terrorizing countries ever since.

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Date: 2022-11-05 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is the guy in all the photos with the indigenous peoples?

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Date: 2022-11-05 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Brazil starts vaccine mandates for travelers in February 2022 https://br.usembassy.gov/travel-advisory-new-brazil-covid-19-vaccination-requirement-for-children-ages-five-and-older/
Otherwise they've had mandates since September 2021

Starts making it own covid vaccines same time period https://www.forbes.com/sites/christinero/2022/03/02/brazil-is-now-producing-its-own-covid-19-vaccine-doses/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsa_Fam%C3%ADlia
Bolsa Família (Portuguese pronunciation: [ˈbowsɐ fɐˈmiʎɐ], Family Allowance) was a social welfare program of the Government of Brazil, part of the Fome Zero network of federal assistance programs. Bolsa Família provided financial aid to poor Brazilian families. In order to be eligible, families had to ensure that children attend school and get vaccinated.

Vaccination has been a part of the program from the beginning, they've just Lula is required covid vaccination for all the children now.

The next WEF meeting is in January 2023 and Lula was of course invited

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Date: 2022-11-05 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And don't forget the 2024 WHO treaty that is quietly stewing in the background, allegedly able to leap over constitutions in a single bound! Squeeze release.

Murmuration

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Date: 2022-11-05 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Can you share a link to the vaccination story? Some googling doesnt turn up much for Lula and Covid.

I find articles about fraud for the brazilian election as an assumption with little evidence shifting to all elections are rigged in latin america and everywhere else?

It seems like the kind of position Lula’s supporters could have just as easily have taken if he lost?

Ill wait to see about the Covid vax policy source but from the searching I’ve done I’ve found very little to support the narratives that spring up about Lula.

Meanwhile we know that Bolsanaro was part of the military dictatorship and in the past had quotes looking back fondly on those times.

On a substack I posed the question of what makes Lula a terrible leader and was met with zero answers and instead directed to answer why hes not, which I found concerning as the article and supporters just made the claims.

I worry when we project our perspectives onto other countries like we know anything. I find it is much easier to be susceptible to narrative crafting in that way through not actually living there. It’s like when I leave Canada and people make these broad claims like they know anything of what it’s like from snippets of news stories.
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