Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 65
Nov. 1st, 2022 11:47 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-01 05:28 pm (UTC)OK but, does he hear himself? They *were deliberately silenced*. So *many people didn't hear them*!
For goodness' sake. I read here about Emily Oster getting ratio'd on Twitter, meanwhile my dad is hell-bent on getting the booster because his doctor told him to. Even today there are still many people for whom the silencing succeded at keeping information from them. Which, I mean, that was its goal so...is it really so surprising that not everyone managed to find the spots on the internet that were routing around the censorship?
The most I could say to my dad--that is, sources he'd accept, that haven't been defenestrated--was (a) 8 mice, Dr. Paul Offit and (b) other countries don't recommend it for under-50. But he's over 50 so...
IDK I think the quoted writer wants there to be fewer people who were genuinely fooled than there actually are. Actually the defenestrations worked and many people, people who would've easily seen the fraud if they'd looked...didn't even look. They just "trusted the experts" (or fraudulent abstracts, see also "you have to pay $50+ to look at the whole study") instead.
-Ochre Shabby Sea Serpent
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-01 06:21 pm (UTC)Maybe if Fauci and his ilk publicly confessed to their crimes while in the dock, perhaps a few would open their eyes. That’s the only thing I can think of that might do it. And I wouldn’t count on even that.
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-01 07:48 pm (UTC)Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-02 01:28 am (UTC)Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-02 01:42 am (UTC)Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-01 11:29 pm (UTC)This. Absolutely this. Scientific results should not be available only to the rich.
Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-03 11:52 pm (UTC)Re: Emily Oster says 'Let's forgive and forget'
Date: 2022-11-08 03:32 am (UTC)It doesn’t excuse all of everyone ‘s behavior, but it’s still a very important distinction. I really would consider some sort of amnesty and truce among the people whose main flaw was believing what they saw on the news….. after there are real consequences for the institutions and people knowingly spreading misinformation and suppressing true information and, more importantly, suppressing dissent.