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smudge goes thereAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-25 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Interesting, if concerning. Eugyppius and Rintrah have been making similar noises. We've conducted the biggest medical experiment in history; at a very high cost, we will learn an awful lot from it.

Here's a question for the forum: who else has had *fewer* cold/flu/respiratory type bugs over the last couple years?

I usually get one or two bad colds a year. Since 2020, I've only had a few transient sniffles, presumably one or more of which was covid. This could mean that the masking, lockdowns, et cetera, really did *something*, although we are just begining to glimpse the big picture. But it could just be because I've been taking more vitamin and zinc supplements during this time.

I haven't done anything else to fend off Aunt Rona, except wearing a mask when required. Also, everyone I know (except me!) got at least one shot, and they've nearly all gotten the bug by now. I've noticed a very rough correlation between number of shots and length/severity of illness, but couldn't prove it in court or anything. Confounding factors abound!

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-25 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yeah, same here. I had covid twice. First time was horrible for 3 days; shakes, aches, shivers, then gone. Second time was a day, pretty minor. Other than that, no colds. Which, like you say, is unusual.

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-25 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've had covid, but no colds or flu. This isn't completely unusual for me the past few years as I don't get as much exposure as a lot of people, but it is on the low side of normal.

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-25 11:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
Our household has had the coof twice, in March 2020, and again this summer. Second time around was a doozy, but other than that... uh, maybe two very mild colds made the rounds at our house betweentimes. Might've avoided all that, except my husband works in a hospital, so we get exposed to everything on the express schedule.

Compared to previous years... same or better.

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-26 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] dendroica
Covid in April of this year has been my only illness since some time in 2019 or maybe even 2018. I'm usually pretty healthy but prior to that I would get a cold or minor flu once a year or so, at least every couple of years.

Whether due to lockdowns/school closures or just viral competition, most the other bugs did almost disappear from circulation from March 2020 through mid-2021. That's apparent in the Syndromic Trends dataset. Now some of them are back with a vengeance.

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-26 12:41 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I apparently came down with Covid at some point in 2020, since I tested positive for the antibodies on the one occasion (a preventative colonoscopy) that I let anyone test me. The best I can figure is that that infection occurred over the couple of days when I cut down my swimming and hiking routine by a little bit, due to feeling more tired than usual. Oddly, I haven't experienced any symptoms of respiratory infection since Covidiocy first started its spread in Wuhan.

Like you, historically I could pretty reliably expect at least one bout of respiratory virus per year. My preventative medicine was a coronavirus herbal tea that I made up based on my body's cumulative past experiences with coronaviruses. So far, those herbs and a more rigorous exercise regimen appear to have left me considerably more resilient to infection than I previously was.

- Christophe

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-26 02:40 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I’ve been lucky. In early 2020 I started fanatically dosing self and family with Vitamin C, Vitamin D, zinc and elderberry. We kept this up for well over a year. It seems to have worked; none of us has had the sniffles for more than a day or two. We’re still doing the Vitamin D, and I want to resume the rest as autumns deepens.

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-26 02:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] temporaryreality
Only two weeks ago did any of us catch a cold (daughter, injected)... First since maybe 2019. Normally she and I (uninjected) both would've caught one. Husband (uninjected) almost never catches colds.

I almost caught this one but chased it off after the second day of the tickle. She went out of town and didn't have access to cold-chasing methods.

Not severe for her, just a remaining cough just past the 1 week mark.

She and I both had covid in February (husband never got it).

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-26 02:53 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Now that you mention it, I think that I too have had fewer respiratory infections of late.

I got the "cold from hell" in March of 2020, and was down for the count for the better part of three weeks during the start of the 'rona madness. That was some cold - it was "just a cold", but it lasted THREE WEEKS. I did not get sick again until late November 2021, when I finally got Cooties-19, which was a mild flu-like illness not nearly as bad as the cold I'd had the year before. (Honestly, if you asked me if I wanted to go another round with my 2020 cold-from-hell or another round with Cooties-19, I'd take the latter.) Since then, nothing.

I did take herbal supplements during both the cold and the cooties, but I'm not sure I'm doing anything different. Trying to eat well and get sufficient exercise and sleep, limit alcohol and sugar, etc., but that's nothing new.

I used to get more colds than this, though....it IS rather weird.

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-26 07:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Over 2020-2022 I often thought, how strange, I usually get some sort of a cold or flu once, an on occasion if I'm really stressed, maybe twice a year. I didn't get sick at all until late April this year when I came down with the cooties.

My experience with covid was kind of strange in some particiulars, but basically, in general, it was the same experience as the flu, 3 days bed rest, by day 5 I was back to working, day 7 normal energy.

I figured I didn't get sick for so long because I was not only staying at home mostly and interacting with far fewer people, but I was sleeping really well and eating really well, and therefore my health was extra robust.


Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-26 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I didn't get the jab (roommate did, but no boosters). I have not been sick in well over 5 years--the main factors in that were giving up dairy, and avoiding touching things like door handles and elevator buttons and washing my hands well if I did. I take a vegetarian multivitamin every day, but it has such high doses of certain things (5,000% RDA of thiamine, 3,529% of B6, 16,667% of B12, etc.) that I take 1 instead of the 3 tablets the label calls for, out of probably an excess of caution. Of course, I also supplement calcium and do moderate exercise nearly every day. We've had two or three viruses try to get at us since this all began, but neither of us have gotten properly ill, just tired and out of sorts for a day or three (I considerably less so than she).

--Sister Crow

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-26 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My anecdata:

Just before the shutdown March 2020, I suffered a fairly intense 2 day flu-like illness, though I did not loose my sense of smell. I assumed I had covid, but when I had my antibodies checked in October, 2021, there was no evidence of prior covid infection. I had no further illnesses until Nov, 2021, I had a severe flu-like illness that kept me in bed for 3 days, and I lost my sense of smell. When I had my antibodies tested again in Jan/Feb 2022, I had strongly positive IgG and IgM antibodies for covid. I've had no other illnesses since. My sense of smell has only partially returned. I've never had the quax.

My daughters, 12 and 19, have each only had one mild covid-seeming illness in last 2 1/2 years, in Autumn 2021, with brief loss of sense of smell. They are un-quaxed.

My quaxed former wife has had 2 runs of covid that I know of. She's not getting the booster.

My older daughter works as a barista in a coffee shop housed in a large regional chain super market. Everyone else in the super market is quaxed, yet they call in numerous sick days because of covid, most calling in sick twice, often more, over the year. My daughter insists she has the best attendance record by far among the employees there.

--Lunar Apprentice

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-26 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for the replies, everyone!

With regard to people taking off work, I was at a standup comedy show recently and there was a round of jokes about "covid vacation" with the moral of the story being that you should enjoy your five days of paid sick time while you still can.

Re: Sickly season

Date: 2022-10-29 01:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I can't say I've had fewer illnesses, because you can't have fewer than none. I had a bad cold in Dec. 2019 (cooties?). Before that, I had a cold in 2005, I think. I don't think I've ever had The Flu.

I don't really do anything special, or take precautions. Apparently, I don't need to. I think for me it's genetic.

I will, however, let the forum know if I do start getting sick. Because that would be news-worthy, and a very bad sign.

But hey, I feel great today!

-Slink
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