You ask me how this binding spell could cause [negative] blowback on someone who performs it. I will share my thoughts on the matter. I am not an experienced magician like you and JMG, so feel free to tell me where I am right or wrong. JMG, and anyone else listening, I of course invite you to do the same.
First of all, as well as calling on heavenly hosts (who presumably have the maturity to interpret your words as you mean them), you call on elemental spirits (which in many cases have a reputation for boneheaded literalness), spirits of "the ancestors" (who may or may not be down with the working depending on who they are, exactly), and demons of the infernal realms (who have a reputation for following instructions while searching for as many loopholes to exploit as they can think of). That last one especially, I would think, opens the floodgates for all kinds of negative blowback.
As for the language of the binding, the "malignant works" line is of interest to me, in part because you say that's where you're using careful language, yet when I go back to check on your spell as it's printed on your website, you didn't use those words at all. I quote: "I call upon you/ To bind Donald J. Trump/ So that he may fail utterly". So, basically, just: "bind the sucker." The blowback on that would be miserable.
Even if we insert the "malignant works" part from the version you gave in the comment above, it's still problematic. What does "malignant works" mean? It's very different depending on the eye of the beholder. What will the spirits judge as malignant? Probably not the same as what you do. Even if we take the following words as direct guidelines about the things you are calling malignant: "That he may do no harm/ To any human soul/ Nor any tree/ Animal/ Rock/ Stream/ or Sea." That seems far too broad to me. I live a fairly ecological lifestyle by modern standards-- no car, haven't flown outside of my country in nearly ten years now, etc-- but I'm not sure I've ever gone a day in my life without harming any human soul, tree, animal, rock, stream, or sea. Maybe on a day when I fast and just sit in my room. If I was truly bound from causing harm in any of those ways, it means I would likely be imprisoned, gravely ill, or dead.
Later in the spell, you say "And bind, too,/ All those who enable his wickedness/ And those whose mouths speak his poisonous lies." This also seems dangerous if intentionally interpreted in an uncharitable fashion by demonic forces. What if you yourself tell your friends some of the crazy things Trump has said lately, in order to make fun of him? On the one hand, you have just enabled his wickedness, by helping him keep the national conversation fixated on more meaningless nonsense to work as cover for other business. On the other hand, your mouth has just spoken his poisonous lies. Either way: boom, more opportunity for blowback.
"Strike down their towers of vanity." Don't we all have towers of vanity in our lives, to various degrees? Unless you're a mystic living in the mountain or something. Not all vanity is intrinsically bad. It helps motivate us to look presentable and is a fuel that sometimes gives necessary energy to social relations. Certainly some may have smaller towers of vanity than others, but I still don't want my own tower knocked down unless it's something necessary in my life. That would probably put one in quite a dispiriting state. I'd rather avoid that blowback, too.
So. Michael, you asked me where I could see possible blowback in your ritual as constructed. Those are the ones I have considered so far. Michael, JMG, others, do feel free to check my work and tell me why if you think I've got the wrong (or right) idea about something there.
Re: Replying to Michael's comment on the old thread
Date: 2018-04-24 06:06 pm (UTC)You ask me how this binding spell could cause [negative] blowback on someone who performs it. I will share my thoughts on the matter. I am not an experienced magician like you and JMG, so feel free to tell me where I am right or wrong. JMG, and anyone else listening, I of course invite you to do the same.
First of all, as well as calling on heavenly hosts (who presumably have the maturity to interpret your words as you mean them), you call on elemental spirits (which in many cases have a reputation for boneheaded literalness), spirits of "the ancestors" (who may or may not be down with the working depending on who they are, exactly), and demons of the infernal realms (who have a reputation for following instructions while searching for as many loopholes to exploit as they can think of). That last one especially, I would think, opens the floodgates for all kinds of negative blowback.
As for the language of the binding, the "malignant works" line is of interest to me, in part because you say that's where you're using careful language, yet when I go back to check on your spell as it's printed on your website, you didn't use those words at all. I quote: "I call upon you/ To bind Donald J. Trump/ So that he may fail utterly". So, basically, just: "bind the sucker." The blowback on that would be miserable.
Even if we insert the "malignant works" part from the version you gave in the comment above, it's still problematic. What does "malignant works" mean? It's very different depending on the eye of the beholder. What will the spirits judge as malignant? Probably not the same as what you do. Even if we take the following words as direct guidelines about the things you are calling malignant: "That he may do no harm/ To any human soul/ Nor any tree/ Animal/ Rock/ Stream/ or Sea." That seems far too broad to me. I live a fairly ecological lifestyle by modern standards-- no car, haven't flown outside of my country in nearly ten years now, etc-- but I'm not sure I've ever gone a day in my life without harming any human soul, tree, animal, rock, stream, or sea. Maybe on a day when I fast and just sit in my room. If I was truly bound from causing harm in any of those ways, it means I would likely be imprisoned, gravely ill, or dead.
Later in the spell, you say "And bind, too,/ All those who enable his wickedness/ And those whose mouths speak his poisonous lies." This also seems dangerous if intentionally interpreted in an uncharitable fashion by demonic forces. What if you yourself tell your friends some of the crazy things Trump has said lately, in order to make fun of him? On the one hand, you have just enabled his wickedness, by helping him keep the national conversation fixated on more meaningless nonsense to work as cover for other business. On the other hand, your mouth has just spoken his poisonous lies. Either way: boom, more opportunity for blowback.
"Strike down their towers of vanity." Don't we all have towers of vanity in our lives, to various degrees? Unless you're a mystic living in the mountain or something. Not all vanity is intrinsically bad. It helps motivate us to look presentable and is a fuel that sometimes gives necessary energy to social relations. Certainly some may have smaller towers of vanity than others, but I still don't want my own tower knocked down unless it's something necessary in my life. That would probably put one in quite a dispiriting state. I'd rather avoid that blowback, too.
So. Michael, you asked me where I could see possible blowback in your ritual as constructed. Those are the ones I have considered so far. Michael, JMG, others, do feel free to check my work and tell me why if you think I've got the wrong (or right) idea about something there.