Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 58

[ecosophia]

As we move further into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

The open thread archives bellow (.epub and html, and for Vol. 2 text too)

Volume 1 (everything before 1st March 2022)
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Re: open thread archive .epub, txt, html / the whole open thread and comments

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you

[lunchboxbike]

Pfizer seeks major increase in Kalamazoo area groundwater use
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2022/09/pfizer-seeks-major-increase-in-kalamazoo-area-groundwater-use.html

[(Anonymous)]

... in order to manufacture more Paxlovid.

This is also the "final assembly" site for the Coronavirus shots.

Not sure I'd want to be anywhere near this site if large numbers of people get really upset about Pfizer's injectables.

- Cicada Grove

China

[(Anonymous)]

One thing I haven't seen much discussed here is the fact that China is STILL doing lockdowns. Literally hundreds of millions of people at a time and all in the name of the covid-zero which was a mad enough goal two years ago but now just makes no sense. Of course, nothing China has done for 2.5 years has made sense to me including the original lockdown.

So, does anybody have any insights? Is China trying to prevent a banking collapse and subsequent anarchy? Was that always the reason for the lockdowns?

Re: China

[tritumi]

The exercise of power is, in its own right, an end unto itself. I view the actions of the PRC in this instance as a maintenance exercise ensuring the people needed for the praetorian guard are prepared to act against the populace. Continual dehumanization of the targets of the exercise reduce friction and self doubt among those tasked to impose whatever orders come down from on high.

Flu shots mRNA

[(Anonymous)]

Does anyone know if this season's flu shots are mRNA? Figured a web search could be useful but somehow I trust the readers here far more than google or duck duck go...

Re: Flu shots mRNA

[(Anonymous)]

I know this sounds quaint, but before these covid vaccines, my doctor's office had ingredients lists for the vaccines they had (along with informational sheets on side effects). Perhaps they are providing those again?

What have the last 2.5 years been about, and about those people who believe in doctors...

[(Anonymous)]

Heard this morning that "Prime Minister Jacinda Arden told a news conference on Monday that requirements to wear face coverings would be ditched in all but health care settings and that New Zealand‘s traffic light system for risk of Covid-19 to the community would also be scrapped." And New York is ditching their Covid tyranny too. But, um, lots of people are getting Covid or something, from what I can tell. At least, more people I know have gotten sick in the last few months than at any time in the last few years. I know that is just an anecdote from my own life, but I am pretty sure that the emergency is over because the powers that be just quit testing/counting because they decided it was over. So where does that leave me? More disconnected than I have ever been in my whole life. And that is a very good thing. I am cleaning out my house, getting more frugal, saving more money, and doing as little as possible in the "economy." I highly recommend cleaning out and getting rid of stuff. The only way to win is to quit! Quit all of it and do real things that make you happy, like cooking or sewing or gardening or whatever.

In last week's post, Bofur commented that as a doctor, he would like to allow people autonomy, provide information, and let patients make their own decisions, but patients invariably say, "You're the doctor, you tell me what to do." I am paraphrasing, but that was the gist I got. A comment on that: People who go to doctors, in general, believe in doctors. Bofur, you will never get someone like me, who never believes anything any doctor says without checking it against several sources and then making my own decision, because I don't go to doctors. Why would I spend the money? Present company accepted, I never met a single doctor who I would trust to do, well, anything. This is four babies (born without any doctors), getting hit by a car while out jogging, and a pretty serious gall bladder attack talking. Whenever a doctor was present, like those two times I was in the emergency room (attacked by a car, attacked by my gall bladder), I left before they could do anything to me and make matters worse. So I think you have a biased sample or something. Of course your patients don't want to make a decision about their own health; that is why they are seeing you! Rest assured that there are people you will never have as patients that can and do make their own decisions. I wish everyone made their own decisions, but when I tell people I don't trust doctors, they write me off as a lunatic or tell me that is because I have never "needed" one. Yep, true, I never have...

Re: What have the last 2.5 years been about, and about those people who believe in doctors...

[(Anonymous)]

And New York is ditching their Covid tyranny too.

In what way is New York pulling its head from its posterior?

Are you referring to New York State or New York City? Adams seemed committed to the narrative but who knows… things fall apart.

Do you have links?

I was just lamenting about the madness of the ongoing NYC work policy. I’m sure even if NYC ditched it, employers could carry it on, maybe… doesn’t seem legally smart but nothing covid did and yet it still went there.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you, JMG, and thankyou, forumistas.

As we head into fall flu season with a new flu + covid booster vaxx (the booster EUA tested only on mice), the vaxx deaths and vaxx injuries piling up, but not at such a Zombie Apocalypse rate that most people, including my ex-doctor, cannot continue to believe / act as if everything is hunky dory...

I am

* assembling a home (paper) reference library

* researching and stocking up on items for a first aid kit

* upping my game with cooking and with using herbs

* looking into cell salts, homeopathy, herbal medicines, and other modalities

* taking sleep, exercise, fresh air, and music more seriously

* taking the etheric more seriously (in general)

* getting an appointment to get my teeth cleaned


PS Today I red-pilled someone on new fall booster by pointing out this, Dr. Paul Offit, vaccine expert and member of the FCA's own vaccine advisory committee, saying it was based on mice studies, and that just is not enough:

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/197581.html?thread=34393293#cmt34393293

[(Anonymous)]

Good idea about the teeth cleaning, I should probably do that.

answer to Devil Advocate person...

[(Anonymous)]

in response to Devil's Advocate---https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/197581.html?thread=34395341#cmt34395341


---

Dear Devil Friend-

this whole Open Post series, is a working happening in public, plain sight, in mixed company. so if you are mixed company, YES, it will seem incongruous here in comparison to the world you have been taught to see, be a part of, participate in, and keep going.

it is its OWN PRACTICE to learn to go ANY OPPOSITE WAY to the world, and trust one's gut intuition senses. this is the why of Papa G's teachings regarding the SELF, in that the consciousness that caused these problems will never ever solve a thing and only make it worse.

as a mixed colored girl runaway, odd person, i was taught how to bide my time stay low plot plan scheme and see wait or make a bigger vision or something off-side.

i was told one day chickens are bound and inevitably coming back to roost, and that is apparently where we are NOW.

so they want us to think things are inevitably going as they must, BUT those of us who've seen this before in smaller limited settings, know these people are precarious fragile and we're waiting for our moment(s).

now that i see how the Jews cannot even keep themselves from their own Hitlers in their new "safe and effective" nation state of Israel, i see it's worse than i thought: people DO like having a party and a reason to barricade themselves in wooden buildings and set them ablaze like "don't worry marauders, we got this!"

i see this as a creative problem: how do you pitch and SELL a better way? what's better? it used to have a list but it's anything at this point.

i see only a future of suicide and despair or indignant rage with these folks BUT they've gone too far too fast and are too stupid, so if even a fraction of humanity gets its act together, i think we can stave off what seems to be the inevitable: Complete Enclosure of The Human.

i think we EACH have a job to undermine this or it will not cannot work. in fact, beyond just general UNGOVERNABILITY, i think the more responses are all over the WORLD ("map"), the more we can count on more pauses of confusion.

it's the PAUSE that i am waiting for that WE are waiting for.

and i'm hoping enough of us artists will do our jobs and pitch another way to win over enough of the unsure people who still want to be relatively free and enjoy life.

sure it may not happen but this is where Chapelle said "white folks haven't been 'Nothing' long enough"--- that means you haven't yet grasped that fighting for one's liberty isn't done in a mere election or a decade or even a generation. this is a FOREVER fight. and why Baldwin noticed that NO ONE can be niggrified because you'll just keep perpetuating the same dehumanizing that was done to you and the world.

WE have to change. not THEM.

when WE truly change they are... well, power soon becomes irrelevant. we're all complicit in THIS all that we have now.

and that's what Baldwin was all about figuring out: our complicity.

so yeah... maybe YOUR world seems okay and go with that or whatever you wanna do and deem fit or sound.

but a lot of witches be here... mages saints devils wild ones bad asses pains in the asses artists writers mages thinkers and more... all the riff raff who're now UP, once they realize WHY they've been on the underside all this time.

but until we're relatively stable (Maslow's heirarchy of needs) we're too vulnerable. so we need to get new modes of making scratch or trading...

but EVERYONE is so miserable and not having any fun, i'm hoping my job is to show people how FUN being alive is so they'll tire of their abusive relationship and when people are excited happy alive and feeling creative, there is abundant ENERGY.

i'm mining for the human spirit's creative ENERGY. that is my specialty to find it, pound on it til it beats again, and back off and just ...WATCH it spin like a beautifully mad top.

who knows? i could be WRONG. but who cares??? my "wrong" is waaaay more fun than what you "think" and what they've told you is "Right."

no Jim Jones can pitch you when you're there. you know who's aiming to eat you alive and who to cuddle with when you're paying attention.

they don't want us paying any attention to our bodies each other ourselves or the world around us.

anyone who answers that there are 2 moons in the sky has never kicked back and looked at the STARS. that's step ONE.

good luck with this. if this is an echo chamber here then you're not paying attention. i love the fighting arguing and new ideas and skepticisms. i get IDEAS here. that's no echo chamber.

Trust that.

x

erika

Re: answer to Devil Advocate person...

[(Anonymous)]

A big change for me your post reminded me of was the feeling of as an adult trying to be more creative brought. To mess around with pottery, painting, writing, growing opens up a shift in being otherwise very absent. It's nice to enjoy art and hear/watch powerful stories but there is something very special with having fun and expressing yourself while your hands get dirty.

Really appreciate your sharing of perspective

If you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you

[(Anonymous)]

In terms of staying in line with "what might be possible", I have found as the narrative cracks while policies and public sentiment carry on with little sign of change, that skeptics have turned to schadenfreude for catharsis, which I feel undermines the goal of what might be possible.

There are multiple successes posted here of trying new things, breaking through the narrative at a local level, expressions of creativity, and general increase of insight with the aim of how to get out of it or move forward without lying down. I feel these are the truly helpful for seeing how others have imagined or acted to seize the moment as sources of inspiration and hope.

On the other hand, endless emphasis on each and every poor health outcome being linked to a single source, which in many countries would affect over 80% of the population, has hit a fever pitch. Even without the virus and fox, we all live in extremely unhealthy populations. The impact of pollutants, quality of food, overuse of pharmaceuticals, inactive lifestyles, mass alienation, etc., all contribute and weigh in to the chances of developing poor health outcomes. Prior to COVID cancer rates were rising, obesity was rising, and mental health disorders were rising to name a few.

Some conditions definitely stand out and shine as examples to warn others (turbo cancers, clots, myocarditis to name a few), but it has come to the point where any sort of new condition developed post-fox is speculated to be caused by it, which cannot be known. Maybe being foxxed will become another risk factor like smoking or obesity at this rate.

It reminds me of earlier in the pandemic, when stories wrongfully revolved around the selfishness of the "Covidiots" and that if we just directed our energy towards them then they will change their behavior. Now that didn't work on the "Covidiots" in a meaningful sense and unfortunately it's not going to work in the other direction. It is certainly a great feeling to stick to your guns and be vindicated, but we need to dust ourselves off to what might be possible instead of reveling in the failures around us. I'm sure we can find countless examples in history of people standing up, or truly understanding a situation being steamrolled to oblivion despite being right.

For at least a year now, the tables have turned for those willing to pay attention, but it seems like those on the other side are fully entrenched and armed with their own set of facts and sources to counter. They have a reason for excess deaths, or why more vaccines is better, or every other piece of nonsense that I feel is enough to maintain a perpetual stalemate. At a small level I think change is possible, but not in the murk and maze of an internet that snatches up the minds of people like loose fish.

It has started to feel like any other culture war topic, where we remain glued to our screens for a more comprehensive, bombastic, and cathartic confirmation of what we already know about the malicious forces with power. Maybe it feels like it should be difference due to the unique coercion and control, but sadly it isn't. Just like mainstream news outlets know what generates clicks, so do the substack writers, we are conditioned to be drawn to stories of collapse and crisis.

Where is the inflection point of gaining insight to a situation, to being ensnared by another narrative that exploits our emotions?

I do want to add a caveat that this is not too wide spread here, but in many of the posts which intersect here it is endemic, especially in the comments. Not everyone has the benefit of JMG moderating after all.

Perhaps I'm wrong and we need more of this, maybe the next bombshell will result in dramatic change. https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62b211d5-7ce8-45ff-ac81-257b7561da36_1074x1328.jpeg

Re: If you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you

[(Anonymous)]

Fair points.

[scotlyn]

Hello. Someone posted a just-under-the-wire question in relation to height to a comment I had made in the last thread concerning improved British nutrition in late Victorian times.

The conversation thread posted to is here: https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/197581.html?thread=34253005#cmt34253005

To which I wish to reply as follows:

Thankfully I have found the original link. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2672390/pdf/ijerph-06-01235.pdf

Which has this to say on the theme of height.

"The decline was astonishingly rapid. The mid-Victorian navvies, who as seasonal workers were
towards the bottom end of the economic scale, could routinely shovel up to 20 tons of earth per day
from below their feet to above their heads [27]. This was an enormous physical effort that required
great strength, stamina and robust good health. Within two generations, however, male health
nationally had deteriorated to such an extent that in 1900, five out of 10 young men volunteering for
the second Boer War had to be rejected because they were so undernourished. They were not starved,
but had been consuming the wrong foods [28,29]. This reality is underlined by considering army
recruitment earlier. The recruiting sergeants had reported no such problems during previous high
profile campaigns such as the Asante (1873-4) and Zulu (1877-8) Wars [30].

"The fall in nutritional standards between 1880 and 1900 was so marked that the generations were
visibly and progressively shrinking. In 1883 the infantry were forced to lower the minimum height for
recruits from 5ft 6 inches to 5ft 3 inches. This was because most new recruits were now coming from
an urban background instead of the traditional rural background (the 1881 census showed that over
three-quarters of the population now lived in towns and cities). Factors such as a lack of sunlight in
urban slums (which led to rickets due to Vitamin D deficiency) had already reduced the height of
young male volunteers.

"Lack of sunlight, however, could not have been the sole critical factor in the
next height reduction, a mere 18 years later. By this time, clean air legislation had markedly improved
urban sunlight levels; but unfortunately, the supposed ‘improvements’ in dietary intake resulting from
imported foods had had time to take effect on the 16-18 year old cohort. It might be expected that the
infantry would be able to raise the minimum height requirement back to 5ft. 6 inches. Instead, they
were forced to reduce it still further, to a mere 5ft. British officers, who were from the middle and
upper classes and not yet exposed to more than the occasional treats of canned produce, were far better
fed in terms of their intake of fresh foods and were now on average a full head taller than their
malnourished and sickly men."

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for this! I wonder if the push to feed us peons crickets isn't more of the same, with an added dollop of omnivore-shaming. That, and since it appears that this ingredient is already finding its way into highly processed food, who knows what sorts of allergies it could set off in a possibly large group of people? Some have said that those with shellfish allergies may also be allergic to crickets.

Older good news

[temporaryreality]

I forgot to mention two weeks ago that a hideous bill put forward in the CA state assembly by SF's own Scott Weiner failed to garner enough support and he pulled it. It was the one that would've allowed children age 12 and up (later amended to 15) to get covid injections without parental consent. Weiner blamed "a small but highly vocal and organized minority of anti-vaxxers" for taking a toll on supporters (death threats are no good, but highly vocal is) and prompting its pull.

He then got all "what about the children" and said, "The health of young people will suffer as a result."

This guy must be making pharma money - or he's actually unable to read a CDC chart showing the actual effects of Covid on young people.

Anyway, it's good news, though the article is written in a way that rehashes all the ick of this whole thing... https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/08/31/bill-that-would-let-teens-get-vaccinated-without-parents-ok-pulled/

Re: Older good news

[(Anonymous)]

Is California allowing girls to get hysterectomies and boys to get castrated? It seems like that is new fad being done at all the city children's hospitals and parents have to consent (if they aren't already actively encouraging it) or their children are turned over the Child Services.

Housing prices drop in covid crazed areas

[(Anonymous)]

Saw the highlights of this article on Twitter about housing prices in the U.S. They provided a map showing the places where prices have dropped the most in 2022 which showed every major city, plus NJ, Maryland, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, and California is just a sea of dots marking drops of 8% or more.

https://fortune.com/2022/09/11/housing-market-home-prices-falling-in-these-98-housing-markets/

I wonder if this is what stopped the covid mandates?

Just opened my journal to writing about journalists discussing this time last year how to the unvaccinated needed to be denied health insurance and medical care, and Republican Senators tweeting that vaccinated people shouldn't have to wear masks. I really thought they were going to go full vaccine passes.

Re: Housing prices drop in covid crazed areas

[(Anonymous)]

On the flip side of that, I invite you to take a brief visit to Dallas, where they are furiously throwing up apartment block after apartment block just as fast as they can go. I have never ever seen anything like this on this scale.

[tritumi]

The final post of last week addressed the simple fact that a substantial segment, perhaps even a majority, of the population wherever you live are either true believers, hangers on, or simply go along to get along unassuming folk. The poster is right, of course.

Likewise, it is also true, as our host observes, "it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking."

In such circumstances, those with the most to lose are the true believers. Physically, spiritually, emotionally, professionally, mentally, and in all ways possible they are all in and cannot allow the official narrative to crack. Retreat being impossible, attack is their option and I expect a doubling down on pressure points across the board. Given the mid-term elections in the USA amid rising inflation and anarchy, the Canadian freedom uprising, the war in Europe ahead of a very hard winter, and the threat of war in Asia, the macro level power points for leveraging power are considerable.

The OP Anon recommends seeking a separate peace, and intends to relocate to the real world so to speak, as the cyber realm is a well of anxiety for them. Throughout history, internal voluntary exile is an option. Keep your head down, become a gray man, do not make eye contact with those likely intending you and yours harm. And hope you pass unmolested.

It is a very tempting proposition. It is always a very tempting proposition.

One of my academic touchstones, who was of the generation rocked by Freud and Einstein, wrote an essay called "The Human Skin, Philosophy's Last Line of Defense". Applied technology swept that away as surely as flanking the Maginot Line.

Perhaps you believe the Mind is the ultimate redoubt of sovereignty. Applied technology has that squarely within its sights.

"How we're reverse engineering the human brain in the lab" (Sergiu P. Pasca | TED2022)
https://www.ted.com/talks/sergiu_p_pasca_how_we_re_reverse_engineering_the_human_brain_in_the_lab?utm_source=tedcomshare&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tedspread

Our host suggests we "begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. " Of course, it is hopefully never too late to begin and all here have surely undertaken a rigorous consideration of personal habits and practices and what you consume and who you wish to attract.

I suppose my point here is obvious and banal. We may be seeing the narrative cracking but foundations crack as a stage in collapse.

Beyond the skin and the mind, weak defenses, focus and strengthen the spirit. From the I Ching:

Through repetition of danger we grow accustomed to it. Water sets the example for the right conduct under such circumstances. It flows on and on, and merely fills up all the places through which it flows; it does not shrink from any dangerous spot nor from any plunge, and nothing can make it lose its own essential nature. It remains true to itself under all conditions. Thus likewise, if one is sincere when confronted with difficulties, the heart can penetrate the meaning of the situation. And once we have gained inner mastery of a problem, it will come about naturally that the action we take will succeed. In danger all that counts is really carrying out all that has to be done--thoroughness--and going forward, in order not to perish through tarrying in the danger. Properly used, danger can have an important meaning as a protective measure. Thus heaven has its perilous height protecting it against every attempt at invasion, and earth has its mountains and bodies of water, separating countries by their dangers. Thus also rulers make use of danger to protect themselves against attacks from without and against turmoil within.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for this.

finally got me

[lp9]

Well, I jinxed myself in the last post! My daughter and I (unvaxxed) finally caught covid. It lasted a couple days for her - sore throat late Saturday; fever, exhaustion, weakness on Sunday; and then a tiny bit of chest congestion Monday. She tested positive today; we wanted to see if she has some natural immunity finally. I just started with the sore throat last night so I'm assuming I have the same thing. We'll see if it follows the same trajectory.

Re: finally got me

[(Anonymous)]

Best wishes for a speedy recovery!
Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Zinc, chicken soup... you know the drill.

[(Anonymous)]

Rintrah engages in an interesting thought experiment, concerning whether many more people are dying than officials are admitting:

https://www.rintrah.nl/

(I can't link directly to the post, it's got a bad word in it. But it's titled "Where the f**k did everybody go?")

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, interesting, but also a little perplexing.

He's probably correct that most people wouldn't notice a doubling of the death rate. Two times a small number is still a small number. But all he really does is point out how little we can actually know from first-hand experience, and how much we rely on what all kinds of people tell us, and how easy it is to be misled.

For example, if I had nothing but my own first-hand observations to work with, I would conclude that covid-19 is not a virus but rather a highly contagious mental illness whose primary symptom is a debilitating fear of catching a cold. But because I'm not (yet) a lunatic living in a cave in the desert, I'm pretty sure this conclusion is somewhat wrong.

All of which is to say... what next? Maybe everything's a lie? How do we tell, and what should we do if we find out? It's hard to *use* this idea.

enemy

[(Anonymous)]

I have begun to tell people about the mass die-off in progress.

Originally it was concerning that there might be pogroms, but if that is the will of the gods there's not much anyone can do about it.

Last week the POTATUS publicly labeled everyone in the liberty movement a Domestic Violence Extremist (DVE), and former citizens wouldn't make very good enemies of the state if they didn't at least put up some resistance.

Not on the dot gov's terms, of course, but where it will hurt them the most- a nice solid kick right in the informations.

[(Anonymous)]

There are more papers coming out all the time. Not sure of the street cred of this journal but it looks tight and crisp in research. https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/47/86. Exogenous particles...luminescence. my neighbor on the hill said he had two distant kin working in hospital labs that claimed the same thing, they were seeing stuff. That was a year ago or more. Going to be hard to keep the lid on permanently. And my Neighbor was vexed. Celadon as Periwinkle rubbery sea serpent.

IJVTPR ("Dark Field Microscopic Analysis..." paper

[(Anonymous)]

Just a couple of quick, non-scientific observations. The authors are not pathologists. They are all Italian MDs, but one is an acupuncture specialist, another a periodontist, and the third an otolaryngologist surgeon. Smart folks, no doubt, but it doesn't look like this paper is their bread-and-butter.

I was shocked to see a description that, post vaccination, the red blood cells (RBCs) were no longer spherical. RBCs are never spherical; they're round but flat, to maximize the surface area for gas exchange, yet slip easily through capillaries.

I couldn't find a reference to luminescence. The idea of dark-field microscopy is that the light which illuminates the specimen comes in at such angles that only light which is scattered off of the specimen reaches the observers eye. That makes the specimen look bright, against a dark background, but the specimen is not glowing on its own.

I follow one of the footnoted references, and found an author (Dr. Robert O. Young) who flatly denies the "germ theory of disease". I'm not going to debate anyone on this, maybe he's right, but he's certainly well outside the mainstream of infectious disease science.

Lathechuck

[(Anonymous)]

Here’s something of a rarity (as far as I’m aware): a Redditor provides a distressing account of her friend’s vaccine injury. Reddit, as I’m sure most are aware, is a leftist PMC Central, of sorts. Hence my surprise. The writer apparently has a solid medical background, and goes into great length about the frustrations of trying to get anyone in the medical establishment to acknowledge these cases.


https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/xcoczu/leg_paralysis_post_vaccination/

[(Anonymous)]

the post is evidently shadow-banned

[(Anonymous)]

See linked article, although from the looks of it many on this board appear to read several of the same writers as I do, so I'm sure you'll come across it soon as it makes a buzz in the "alternative" media.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/scientists-from-harvard-and-johns

Upshot is that scientists from several "top" universities (Harvard/Oxford/Johns Hopkins/Toronto) have written that the vaccine causes far more adverse reactions among young people than the virus does, concluding that up to 98 serious events occur for every one caused by the virus for those under 30. The conclusion in the article is that Universities should drop their vaccine mandates, although considering that most people who go to those schools and work there are already vaxxed, it seems like it's too little too late to me.

On a positive note once members of these gatekeeping institutions start speaking out publicly, it should help crack the supposed lockstep of the "medical community", although if covid hasn't proven these universities/institutions are all hat and no cattle then I'm not sure what will. If the science true believers, or heck, even the people who are trying to do their best to forget about covid see that there is dissention in the ranks of the technocrats, it may help them to realize that the "consensus" around covid treatments & policy was a media-generated chimera all along. The whole thing relied the illusion of a university-industrial-government-medical complex that appeared to be unified in its opinion on what to do in order to give the narrative credibility, which was desperately needed considering the level of ridiculousness this whole thing has reached. Doesn't seem like much of a coincidence that both the media and the key participants in the aforementioned "complex" are largely funded by the same entities who stand to benefit from covid medical and political interventions, but there I go again letting my silly brain think for a change. They've assured me that this is a bad idea.

Point being there's a crack in the narrative, some of the high priests at the highest temples of "science" are breaking with orthodoxy. Anyone who knows their way around history can come to their own conclusions about what some of the possible outcomes may be.

In my opinion, it's gonna be a lot harder to keep a lid on this whole thing, seems like the other shoe is just starting to drop and those who inhabit the ranks of officialdom will need to either get ahead of this or, you know, have something bad happen to them.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, this is a major paper, a major crack in the narrative.

Another was when Dr Paul Offit, an expert in vaccines and member of the FDA advisory panel (which was not consulted) came out publically disagreeing with the decision to allow the booster based only on mouse data.

[(Anonymous)]

i noticed a new funeral director in my small town yesterday, then today i see this from linkedin:

https://www.linkedin.com/news/story/whos-hiring-funeral-homes-5993994/

it's almost as more people than normal are dying. can't imagine why.

Satirizing the pandemonium

[(Anonymous)]

For those who watch TV, a show called 'Sprung' is now available that satirizes the pandemonium, among other things. I find it very funny.

Sprung (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14544190/)

For example, a veterinary surgeon offers coof tests and uses a magic eight ball to determine the results.

I wonder if this is a sign that the dissident view is becoming more generally accepted?

Purple Pondering Pangolin

Re: Satirizing the pandemonium

[hearthspirit]

I think it is picking up steam in the zeitgeist.

I just saw the latest Ghostbusters movie (Afterlife - the grandchildren of the original Ghostbusters are the new Ghostbusters, and their single mom and the teacher she is dating have the Sigourney Weaver and Rick Moranis roles. It is excellent, but Moranis' speech was still better), where they make cringily prescient fun of science.

As Rudd explains,

"History is safe. Geometry: that's safe. Science is all particle accelerators and hydrogen bombs. Science is giving yourself the plague and gambling on the cure."

It came to theatres in 2020. WOOPS. At least now we know how to stop it, guys (spoiler).

what is in the individual vials?

[(Anonymous)]

‘Stunning’: The Real Reason Health Officials Won’t Let Independent Scientists Examine mRNA Vaccine Vials
A data leak suggests the real reason health officials don’t want individual vaccine vials examined by independent scientists is that the vials are all different — and the mRNA in the shots is not intact.
by Joseph Mercola
September 13, 2022
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mrna-covid-vaccine-vials-data-leak-cola

Re: what is in the individual vials?

[(Anonymous)]

Why is this considered new information? My notes from two or three years ago include this summary:
A set of e-mails from the EMA (European Medicament Agency) appears to have been hacked. Clear doubts are expressed by the scientific committee about the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines despite the political pressures being applied by various state and Brussels bureaucrats to approve the vaccines asap.

The website is in French (Le Monde) but google translate made a good enough job to understand what they say:

https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2021/01/16/vaccins-ce-que-disent-les-documents-voles-a-l-agence-europeenne-des-medicaments_6066502_3244.html

One of the email exchanges mentions “m-RNA chains shorter and/or larger” than the “right one”, and this means that about 40% of all the m-RNA they are injecting has different lengths and therefore different compositions than the “right” one; the effects of this are unknown.

a) What kind of proteins will the ribosomes of the cells produce with these shorter or larger chains of m-RNA? Unknown, untested.
b) What kind of antibodies will be produced due to the proteins inside the cells made by those shorter and/or longer m-RNA? Unknown, untested.

Warehouses

[(Anonymous)]

I live in rural PA. Ever since covid started there has been this building of large warehouses with windows at one end. Half million to 1 million square feet in size and built for lease - they don't have names on the buildings, like Amazon, or any other corporate giant. I can't figure out what they are for and no one seems to know. They have truck bays all along one size and most seem not busy. They are of course located just off of highways.

I'm wondering if this is just a symptom of "just-in-time manufacturing" failure and companies are now storing things here. We've toured an Amazon warehouse for shipping products and they are much much smaller than these things, maybe 1/10 the size.

It's been weird to see them go up and keep going up even now.

Re: Warehouses

[(Anonymous)]

Wowser. The same thing is happening in my remote, semi-rural (believe it or not!) corner of Toronto. Whenever we go by the latest aircraft carrier-sized warehouse going up, my wife and I just look at each other in bewilderment. There is SO MUCH vacant industrial space everywhere we look, this simply does not make economic sense. We have attributed the phenomenon to money laundering, but the more conspiracy-oriented kind of folks could have a field day with it (cue to "The Twilight Zone" music theme: I'm not going there if for no other reason than to maintain what's left of my sanity). Soylent green, anyone?

Ron M

Doctor's Wife's Testimony

[(Anonymous)]

A post from "Died Suddenly News" FaceBook group as shown on on the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation's video on rumble.com [the carrot icon is used is order avoid FaceBook's censoring algorithms ] It appears in the video at 38:37.

Full Episode #46: A New Public Health Crisis
September 8, 2022
https://rumble.com/v1jayt7-full-episode-46-a-new-public-health-crisis.html


EXCERPT - TRANSCRIPTION OF text shown on screen, a comment from the "Died Suddenly News" FB group

I was recently invited to join this group just wanted to share my story. My husband is a physician. I went down the rabbit hole, read all of the things and knew that absolutely nothing good would come from the 🥕. My husband being in the medical establishment thought the 🥕 great. We fought and argued so many times. I literally cried my eyes out begging him not to take the 🥕. He didn't tell me and went and took it anyway. He was one of the first to get it due to his job.

When he went to get the second 🥕, he also didn't tell me because he knew how I'd react. He got his second 🥕 at work because it's readily available. He got it around 10 am and 30 minutes post 🥕started feeling very bad. He knew he was going down. He yelled for his nurse to get her crash cart. My husband collapsed at work and went unconscious. They called an ambulance and he got rushed to the ER. He was having a major tachycardia (180) and went into complete anaphylactic shock. He didn't call me until 6 pm that evening from his hospital bed because he knew I'd be angry with what he did and he knew he should have listened to me. He is extremely lucky to be alive but the damage is still obvious. He had heart problems for at least 6 months. The first month or so post 🥕🥕 he would get confused easily. When we were driving to places we had been many times he would get confused. He has since improved on that front but he remains on anti-anxiety medications after the ordeal. He has actually even increased his dosage over time. The only blessing that I can say has come from this is that he is with me on the kids not getting the 🥕. He doesn't argue with me at all about it. Had he not had this happen I would bet I'll bet he'd be the first in line to make our kids get the 🥕so for that I am thankful.

Re: Doctor's Wife's Testimony

[(Anonymous)]

This is a very meaningful and well told story. I am happy for you and sad for you. I'm glad about the children. Thank you.

Shedding / the next 6 months

[(Anonymous)]

In this 36 minute video interview Dr Judy Mikovits talks about shedding (Bottom line: shedding is real but no need to panic about it. What to do: DON'T wear a mask, and take care of your immune system. Many tips here, well worth a listen).

In the last few minutes-- transcribed below-- Dr Mikovits talks about what she expects to see in the next 6 months, and offers some further advice for coping.

Episode 126: Spike Shedding — How To Protect Your Family With Judy Mikovits, Ph.D.
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/shows/good-morning-chd/c10WU0PCG2

Sept 10, 2022

EXCERPT - TRANSCRIPT

30:55
POLLY TOMMEY: We've all seen the figures of people just dropping like flies. I mean, it's incredible what we're seeing everywhere. Yet still the media is [?] I mean, it's laughable, almost laughable what we're being told. So boosters coming, there's still a boatload of people—- even though, I get it, people are waking up, I can see the comments on various news articles, I get it, that's great news. But still, everyone's got family members just not getting it, sick family members can't wait to get their booster. What do you think—- we're going into autumn soon, what do you think the world's going to look like in the next 6 months? What are we anticipating?

DR. JUDY MIKOVITS: Well, if we, you and I and these shows are successful, we can anticipate the same thing we've seen the last 6 months or really the last year since they rolled out the shots, and that is, you know, that 40% increase in all death overall. I mean, the people who continue to get the shots are going to continue to die and it's unfortunate. But if we're successful and we can get people to do one simple thing— actually two simple things, never put on another mask and never get another shot. And I say never, but I try to say for the next year. Because you just asked, going into fall, OK, we did your experiment, now we'll do ours. And our experiment is not another shot. Because we saw sudden infant death go down during the plandemic, didn't we? Oh, because parents couldn't take their kids in for those boosters, or whatever they call them. Because that's what you call a 2 month, a 4 month and a 6 month. Those are boosters, the tetanus boosters. If people will learn not to get another shot, and they do that experiment this fall, we can end the whole thing. And then what people are going to see is what I've shown you. Oh, wait a minute, we don't ever have to have another shot. We're free, we're free to eat clean, we're eat non-GMO, we're free to ingest non-GMO, inject non-GMO. We win back our country, our freedom, and a kind of new health that we haven't seen in my adult lifetime.

POLLY TOMMEY: And just lastly, what would your advice be to people in our movement who are really sad because someone they love, their mother, their brother, I don't know what, their child even, is going to take another booster, and it's breaking their heart, and they don't know how, they're shouting at these people because they're so mad, they're so passionate about it. How do they behave, how do they cope with the real pain of seeing someone you love continuing going on with, we know what the end result is going to be. What is your advice to keep people calm?

DR. JUDY MIKOVITS: The first thing we always do is stop and pray for them. But I think we also equip ourselves. I met Patrick Wood earlier this year and he has a website called citizensforfreespeech.org and on that website are little classes, how to talk to your family. They're fabulous. They help. How to talk to your doctor. How to show them things in a way that's not angry, or you know, that passion you just mentioned, yes, we can see what's coming, all we can do is work, and learn to speak, forgive ourselves, forgive each other, go in love, lead with love, and that's all all we can do and all I've been able to do as it's happened in my own family. But we're winning those battles. And who wins them are the little kids. [35:46]

Re: Shedding / the next 6 months

[(Anonymous)]

"never put on another mask and never get another shot."

SOUNDS LIKE MY PLAN.

How Bad Is My Batch? Gender Differences

[(Anonymous)]

Last week there was some discussion about the death and injury reports. Noodling on that, I revisited the website https://www.howbadismybatch.com and, having taken note of the fact that the reports on www.realnotrare.com are mostly from women, I looked again at:

https://www.howbadismybatch.com/gender.html

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Variation in the Effects of Covid 19 Vaccines between Females and Males

Gender Differences in Vaccine Effects

We see evidence of massive variation - this time, not between batches, but rather between different groups in the population - between male and female.

The vaccines were granted EUA based on a consistency of reaction for all members of the population - if the vaccine decimates or seriously afflicts one group compared to another, then this may void its EUA.

Here, I am providing data for what appears to be a highly consistent and very large difference in the effect of the vaccine on women compared to men

* PDF : Gender Effects
[ https://www.howbadismybatch.com/gender.pdf ]

* VIDEO : Gender Effects
[ https://www.bitchute.com/video/xbtNAMlczhDM/ ]
[about 26 minutes, going through the data]

* EXCEL : VAERS data for men and women by symptom - 18th June 2021
[ download this excel doc on the webpage ]

"If I were a vaccine manufacturer I would say how do we know these events were due to vaccine? But then we say if these events were not due to vaccine, then we would not see such a male female discrepancy." Wayne L Winston, Indiana University

CONTINUE READING:
https://www.howbadismybatch.com/gender.html