Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 56
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So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
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With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
A Scream...
Date: 2022-09-04 04:36 pm (UTC)https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/31/well/mind/burnout-online-dating-apps.html
they are paywalled past a certain number of free articles, so if you cannot read or glimpse these through your local library's digital media connections, then perhaps re-freshing in "reader" mode might work, as it does for me.
this is how i check the weather in san francisco- by reading the NYTimes online when i can handle it.
what I'M looking for isn't fudged by mainstream media; it's reinforcing my own intuition about how BAD it is and is gonna get. not because our governments have become genocidal against its own people, but because this already played out with Tuskeegee and well, with colored folks and indians.
and as y'all mentioned, these folks ARE dumb and verrrry dangerous.
i don't mention the colored and indians to hit anyone over the head with lefty racisty screams. i mention it because i think what we do or ALLOW to happen to others, will eventually make its way over to us. it's a rule like karma or math or night and day, and why people from The Struggle felt it was against one's own soul to not speak up against injustice against others.
and i feel that way about the True Believers. they are just fluff not to bump into. i wouldn't count on anyone who shrugged it off, for anything.
but that's now blah blah ginger. words are meaningless.
the two stories i post above let me know we're screwed unless we get over ourselves because this me me me gentrification i got mine give me MORE etc cancer has been spreading and kills Home and that article is what happened to San Francisco, to New York, to Everywhere now...
because read those two articles and all of America is being broken down and sold off now.
Mamet in his book, "Recessional," says the ravaging of the cities is to make the re-purchasing cheaper.
BUT as i see it, with the end of cheap energy we're at the end of Gentrification. it was based upon GIVE ME THAT...it was based on suburban BOREDOM
a return to the cities where at least SOMETHING was going on and a little danger made it worth it
but not anymore...danger theft and feces and no fun... so gentrification seems like the end of chasing one's tail... there's no THERE there.. or HERE... it's dangerous crowded boring suburbs here in the city of san francisco and well...
which leads me to the SECOND article, from a love letter to the death of New Orleans after Katrina, and how yeah... properties scooped up and now it's full of Airbnbs and what made me read the article was they changed the title to New Orleans not ever having been like a "Bucket of Crabs" and kids from there felt angry broke and went bad... the writer was describing what happened to San Francisco and New York and now coming to all of America now that the regular folks who bet the moon on the stock market and real estate or retiring early or...???...
and to use Murmuration's term:
SMASH CUT TO:
how we even find love and... DATE online. the article "celebrates" dating apps being 10 years old. i had no idea people have been dating online for a DECADE.
i saw what it did to James after just a few MONTHS (he was skeeved for years after it) and, People:
YOU WE ME I US... WE ARE ALL MOST DEFINITELY NIGGRAS NOW.
even "they" the elitists and even the zuckerbergs and dorsey and all these tech titans have niggrified THEMSELVES. well, that's why they're dying and genociding and our representatives are running off with ALL the cheese.
as far as i can tell it's over except for the folding up of the chairs.
am i saying this to fart all over this open forum? no. i'm going back to Chappelle's worried quote when he was hosting Saturday Night Live: "White folks haven't been 'Nothing' very long."
meaning that it's wonderful that Steve Kirsch and Naomi Wolf and all the people who can still AFFORD to fight this on the legal level, but we're toast because WE KEEP FOLLOWING THEIR LEAD IN THIS DANCE and what are we supposed to do for Katrina or dating people?
NOTHING.
my point is: YES YES IT'S AN ABOMINATION AND THEY SHOULD BE TRIED AND GET IN TROUBLE BLAH BLAH BLAH GINGER... BUT THEY WON'T BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FROM JUMP AND WILL LEGALIZE WHAT THEY DID LATER NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT...
it's not just the "unvaccinated" now it's all of us. i can't believe they vilified an entire PARTY in america.
i've gotten my ass beaten by these twitchy elitists because they...
well, i find it funny that one middle aged woman dancing in the street can make two tech guys lose their minds and go off me.
i'm not saying get beat... i'm saying they are precarious... each of us must fight back to be in The Real best we can... step up and do OUR little thing no matter how small. it is this "tracks in space thing." we cannot be cute we cannot afford to be cute or we will be used for fresh blood and uncontaminated organs. (you think i'm KIDDING? wasn't this a thing in china with their prisoners having to "donate" kidneys before? and as monkey see monkey do reigns supreme here i rescinded my organ donor option on my license)
this is related i think to Mattias Desmet's idea that this is what machines do to your mind and thus society.
i'm worried we'll think like the people in dating online HELL, and just assume that's the way it IS and has always BEEN.
this is related to my clothing business idea. if everyone's fine with stretchy tubes and sweatpants and only faking it for an online date, then i'm toast.
music and art are toast.
i'm scared because i saw how easily tech killed SF like "that!" (snap) and then the world with everything being available and priced down to crap.
why do people even gentrify? because they're BORED.
the world is full of bored people EATING and buying everything to death, including EACH OTHER because that's what those apps teach us to do: consume each other.
we are in a world of the making of complete and utter shmucks...zuckerberg...really? you're gonna trust him to buy your "community" back from? dorsey? any of these shmucks?
they use the world like a portapotty they crap all over and leave to the rest of us... and we take it.
the article on dating has a woman considering going from the dating app to a $4500 matchmaker and the guy who got a partner online is terrified of it not working out so they don't "have" to go back online...
WHAT ABOUT REAL LIFE? it's not even a THING anymore.
this is heaven within us but we accept "their" limitations and we don't even know anymore who "they" are.
re-watch "The Time Machine." see if you don't feel ashamed to identify with the eloi, a race bred into dumb blond cattle for food who blindly went back to the bomb shelter to "hide" like the horn blaring was god's order.
if there was a Time Machine II, James said the soft blond eloi would be having temper tantrums and not REALLY wanna build their own new world.
like us, now??? i worry i fret.
THIS IS WHY I THINK IT IS LIKELY THAT IT WILL BE THE FERAL ONES WHO'VE CLAWED OUT OF HATE PAIN AND TERROR, WHO STEP UP AND OUT THE MOST.
i scream to them but James i think is right when he says most don't get beyond themselves anymore in this culture.
true.
but just in case... this is for YOU.
people like Hearthspirit and Kyle and some of the ones who've lost their minds and written me personally (why Papa G is hella smart to hide his email... life is TOO short for young people's love of email drama that is like going to the bathroom for them then they go live something ELSE. i'm done talking and dealing with young people til they've fought through the five chambers!)
so i'm not talking about starting an underground. (i'm quitting that now)
i'm talking about doing things like even dropping seeds about OTHER IDEAS.
i have traveled across America since i was a child, inheriting my trust and love in my fellow Americans and just people in general, because being a mixed girl, what hurt my head was: WE'RE ALL THE SAME.
we get trapped in the culture they give us. it's crap.
one on one and IN PERSON we tend to each be massive sweethearts. it's this apart thing and reading what they tell us about each other.
we're trapped in GRADE SCHOOL. not even high school. at least there was new, awkward sex in high school. we're trapped in cootie fears and 3rd grade thinking.
and remember: just because you have a human connection with someone doesn't mean you have to screw each other.
that's another way of actually distracting FROM the intensity of human connection! how bizarre, right?
eventually i will talk about twisting evil powers for good as Hearthspirit gets it so maybe others can be creative with this.
my angle is to undermine what They've set up: when two folks aren't talking to each other, there's often a third person getting over both of them because of it. when the two not talking, TALK, it takes the piss out of the third's power.
i'm not done but i'm tired of writing. sorry i'm so preachy and didactic. i'm worried because the covid lockdowns also served to transfer so much wealth to the top and the more people down here become ACTUAL niggras, the less we can fight back or will be listened to.
this is why i call out to the feral child who's Made It and Got Their Own...because you know how to give BACK in the way i mean.
when we grow up we hide and forget all we know to fit in. but "in" is over. we need you back on our side. the side of the living the grateful ...the FEARLESS.
erika
Re: A Scream...
Date: 2022-09-04 08:30 pm (UTC)You need a way to screen people properly, not the way the machines do it, but the old fashioned way.
Re: A Scream...
Date: 2022-09-05 12:29 am (UTC)Two hours into our coffee date, I exclaimed, "You don't give me the creeps at all!!!" And we talked another hour and a half. We got married in October 2010 and have had a very good marriage. He's the only person I've ever met online and dated, and I owe it all to social media.
Re: A Scream...
Date: 2022-09-05 03:08 am (UTC)Re: A Scream...
Date: 2022-09-05 05:34 am (UTC)After leaving my partner of twenty years in a major huff (we had screwed ourselves into a very tight corner) and later, over many weeks, explaining (Nyet) then requesting (Nyet) & well, finally begging (Nyet)
I went on a few dates. All via 'real life' and none worth any more time and money than required for the period of 'discovery.'
Then covid.
Congrats to you ! How providential.
Re: A Scream...
Date: 2022-09-06 08:23 pm (UTC)I did meet my wife around that time period, but amazingly enough the "old fashioned" way through a mutual friend. The fact that that is rare in my peer group (early 30s) seems to be just a sign of the times, I guess.
I'm glad I didn't have to do that. Online dating *usually* sounds stressful.
I did meet a girl in an AIM chatroom as a teenager and we got together at the mall once, but only cause it was a group chat that contained mutual friends. Nothing romantic came of that though, though as fate would have it we both drifted into the same completely unrelated friend group we wound up ironically hanging out a lot about 5 years after that though. Yay for platonic friendships that start online. Haven't really talked to her in years though. Time passes I guess.
Re: A Scream...
Date: 2022-09-05 03:37 am (UTC)never mind.
i'll be quiet.
wrong place.
how silly of me! i'm ON THE INNERWEBS!
i've got to stop...
erika
(Re-posting? or deleted on purpose?)
Date: 2022-09-05 05:32 pm (UTC)i also don't like to do what the innerwebs inspire: just disappearing without explanation. i talked with James this morning and i'm not backing off out of tantrum but out of a need to make MY world as i cannot even fit in THIS one and since the computer world is a given (shrug), i'm just a bleating ole lady, one of the last who remembers and came of age in The Juke Joints.
this last reference to James Cone's book, "The Cross and the Lynching Tree," where he says the church enabled the struggle during Martin Luther King Jr's era, but the juke joint, where it was admitted: "if i could be a niggra on saturday night, i'd NEVER wanna be white"-- which is a testament to how FUN the juke joint world was because everyone wants to be white, even white folks.
and James Cone said the juke joint didn't do a thing with all that energy and power, except give its own transcendent kind of release in the moment...
...my posthumous living argument to what Cone said was: "NO! Watch THIS!" as i learned how to come up in that environment and get beneath the simple hump grind and release and into the deep 3am philosophical talks... i learned from the players how they wanna love but MUST love in this culture... but as a woman i learned how to not open my legs because once you go THERE, it's unnecessary. it was my little girl trick... just to look in eyes and talk... ask questions... want nothing.
but... i cannot "write" that as an idea. it just was MY experience.
so that's why i'm coiling back in and feel it's important to not just invest in this Papa G's joint as a community and disappear. that is mean cruel irresponsible. so i'll go beyond the etiquette of this machined medium and over-share even as i back off and go inner.
i've got to BE my own Pretty One... all ALONE now.
(Temporary Reality gets this what i do because SHE does the same thing and yet she doesn't preach cajole or even tell anyone how she does "she." / that means there ARE more of us out there and we will find each other when it is time)
oh yeah! i wrote ALL THIS below and this now because right after Hearthspirit acknowledged i was telling Truth, for a day and a half i couldn't STOP seeing 11:11/2:22/4:44/5:55 day or middle-of NIGHT. so i wrote this below because... as we used to say a la Zeppelin: i've got to ramble on (specifically in THE REAL).
so a break to the internet. who knew that'd be a new "motorcycle" road trip cross country going it alone standing still???
i'm fifty-five but still CANNOT drive 55 standing still. i'll report back when/if anything happens. or Temporary Reality will and can share.
that's my girl. as local as i can get. she dyes with onion skins. i KNEW we'd dig each other and fall in love! i'm getting for bus rides back and forth in the future.
much to do in the real to clean and clear space.
so here's what i wrote... last of my Endless Pages for awhile... at least til i get Mattias Desmet's book at the library. saving up for my teeth. yeah...i'm hella broke. James will pay but he's paid enough and i like scary goals (using my final fear of broken teeth and a rotting living death to HUSTLE).
HERE's what i wrote and may have been deleted but i hope not. i'm being as REAL as i can be and it's hardly ever PRETTY. what comes after is pretty. like Scotlyn and i coming to an understanding.
Understanding. that's also a big word. a part of all this intended divisiveness.
Papa G i hope you don't keep my sorta good-bye letter from them all. too many engineers between guts and real life as it is and i'm doing my best.
and if we ARE to be Eloi, we should accept it and work with or AROUND that fact. i don't acknowledge it in us to judge. no time for passive judging. i'm for creatively working with REALITY.
no one seems to remember Reality, though. it is what is IS!
here continues the endless page if Papa G puts it through:
-----------------------------------
dear ecosophians-
okay-- so the Eloi it shall be!
at first i was surprised that dear "getting it so far" Hearthspirit would come back so shallow but that's what she does what WE do and online- she deflects discomfort or a new direction in thought by saying something cute and pat that i don't understand and underlines it with a link out of HERE.
classic deflection.
i don't take the bait. i'm not going to any outside cute link that'll take me out of THIS. i am a pitbull regarding this love in real life thing and what i know, have done, and see, and hear.
wanted to share. / til now. i give up. what i had was glorious but mine alone and i wanted to share with the class because people have always talked about me then in pain admitted they envied me.
but envy allows their morning hate to return because they don't wanna do the work the risks the terror and joy themselves.
the computer world may be fun fine and have a lot of upsides. hell i'm here! but the social downsides ARE TRAINING US.... KILLING US EACH OTHER and all of LIFE.
this is in Mattias Desmet's new book (have not yet read) about us being mechanized in our thinking AND someone (haidt?) had written how the innerwebs--social media-- are training the kids in their social situations.
there is no NUANCE in these things. and the medium IS the message when i write all this stuff i think i'm saying and all i get back is, "i met my mate online," as if that proves anything AT ALL.
i'm flummoxed that happened HERE. but it's EVERYWHERE. it's how we think and are trained to respond.
even MATTIAS, the Gent from Ghent, who writes about this as his central theme, fell for this new online mechanized way of being by answering a troll from his past, in THREE parts. the troll writers, a creepy couple, did that twitter thing where you piggy back on someone's tweets to get to THEIR FOLLOWERS. they personally trashed Mattias in an unreadable untethered accusatory rant, and he fell for it and he's probably not even ON twitter (yet?).
so Mattias wrote a book about this and STILL he himself fell for the bait and he and Malone defended themselves in not inches but feet of copy, and gave that creepy couple a TON of publicity after he reached out personally (old ways) and they ignored him (new ways meeting old ways kill old ways).
so Mattias wrote and wrote, giving the creepy couple the promotion they wanted for THEIR BOOK. but i felt like someone had wiped on me after even glancing at the kerfuffle. it's boring online internet kerfuffle.
i never said you couldn't meet people online or in the metaverse or wherever's not in the real world. great. i love electrified vibrators and i've had phone sex with my customer service rep, just ordering sneakers online. tech is great. met James from a fan email and we're over twenty years best friends and family.
BUT in a world of all social media and social anxiety, we and our children are completely socially retarded and people meeting online in person on all fours and coming in your face is coming to a town near you if it's not already there.
i'm not gonna write about in person stuff anymore because well, this is obviously mixed company and it's obvious people wanna hold on or just argue tiny points with me when the world is dying because we are missing socializing steps and skills.
great. meet EVERYONE online.
but that's not the world i want so i'm gonna just lurk more and not just be a dancing bear here talking about how good it COULD be in person. i was trying to remind and show what's possible with each other. i remember!
but the responses here show me/remind me, "it is what it is" and it all just has to burn itself out and start again when it's natural.
i'm just gonna let things BE and keep my secrets and what i know to myself like James has been saying all along. but it's tragic to me because when you go towards Barry White over Zuckerberg's world ALONE? ...WOW.
i'll just leave it there.
(smile)
erika
Re: (Re-posting? or deleted on purpose?)
Date: 2022-09-06 09:13 am (UTC)"when the world is dying"
Is this true? Is this what you see?
Maybe... just maybe... the WORLD is WAY bigger than that... maybe, just maybe, she is bigger than our fears, our stumbles, our deflections, and is OUT THERE, just loving...
And you, of all people, know how and why she is, and exactly what that feels like when you "get beneath the simple hump grind and release and into the deep 3am philosophical talks... i learned from the players how they wanna love but MUST love..."
Maybe you learned this from the WORLD, which is not dying, but busy loving...
Be well, stay free! and BE loved, beloved!
Re: A Scream...
Date: 2022-09-05 07:18 pm (UTC)"the world is full of bored people EATING and buying everything to death, including EACH OTHER because that's what those apps teach us to do: consume each other."
There were a lot of other insightful thoughts in the comment as well. I just singled out one. Thank you for taking the time to post.
Re: A Scream...
Date: 2022-09-06 02:48 pm (UTC)and good morning.
(huge relieved smile)
x
erika