Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 56

[ecosophia]

As we move further into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.    

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Bulgaria... for the win?

[methylethyl]

Preface: the usual cautions about how I don't know how reliable any given country's statistics are. Bulgaria included.

But this is really interesting: while oodles of other industrialized countries have been experiencing higher-than-expected all-cause mortality since about April this year, there's a weird exception: Bulgaria.

https://www.nsi.bg/en/content/18121/basic-page/deaths-bulgaria-weeks

Bulgaria has been running mostly *below* average.... also since April this year.

Coincidentally, Bulgaria also has the lowest vax rates in the EU, at a little under 30% (most others were over 60%). They got a lot of media flak over the last couple of years for that. They apparently had really high covid death rates-- one could posit that their current good-looking rates are simply because a higher-than-average number of the weak and susceptible were killed off during the initial three or four COVID waves, which are visible on the graphs linked above.

Here's a primo example of the MSM on that from November last year:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/deaths-50-above-normal-bulgaria-eus-least-vaccinated-country-eurostat-2021-11-16/

Anyway, on the graphs page, their data ends with July this year, and I'll try to remember to check back and see what it looks like for August-- July had a rise to very-slightly-above-average after sixteen straight weeks below average.

Compare this to, say, Australia, where deaths have been running way over the baseline range since October 2021:

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release

Or compare to UK:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1088911/Weekly_report_mortality_W27.pdf

(see graph on p2) which is running fairly steady above baseline since late 2021, separate from any COVID waves.

Or the US:

https://www.usmortality.com/mortality/weekly

which has also been steady above baseline since... April this year.

Counterexample: Sweden, which seems to be running a little below baseline since... about April.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1115707/sweden-number-of-deaths-per-week/

That same season, back in 2020, in Sweden, saw a huge out-of-season spike in deaths. You'll recall they didn't lock down. So it's interesting that the covid "waves" that are clear in other countries' charts seem to be missing from Sweden's. I wonder what happened with lockdowns in Bulgaria?

Germany seems to be running steadily above average, even when that average includes 2020 and 2021 and the average is the last five years:

https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Cross-Section/Corona/Society/population_death.html

Spain? I got lazy searching for a chart, but found this:
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/06/15/spanish-media-slams-officials-as-excess-mortality-continues-in-spain-with-no-explanation/

No explanation. Shrug.

So I'd love to hear what anybody else has to make of all that. Particularly Bulgaria and Sweden. Because what those two countries have in common doesn't seem to be vax rates. Might just be allowing nature to take its course and not trying too hard to squelch a respiratory virus. Does anybody know what lockdown measures were done in Bulgaria, and/or how successful those measures were? How reliable are their stats?

Re: Bulgaria... for the win?

[methylethyl]

Tacking onto that, found another scrap of info:

https://www.novinite.com/articles/216553/The+European+Commission+has+Called+For+a+New+Vaccination+Campaign+against+COVID-19

This article says Bulgarians have a 29.9% uptake rate on the initial vax, but only 11.5% have gotten the first booster. Second booster? 0.8%. I am so curious about the reasons for this. Lack of access? Cultural reasons? Did it cost money there? No media push?

Re: Bulgaria... for the win?

[(Anonymous)]

Given the risks of a mass die-off over the next 5 to 10 years I'm seriously thinking of investing real estate in Bulgaria.

Its a lovely country anyway and seems to be the most likely to emerge from this likely mess in Europe with a functioning society.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/12/10/bulgaria-s-vaccine-battle-the-mistrust-driving-covid-s-surge

The stats are reliable (and I wouldn't be shocked if some of the "jabbed" bribed a doctor to get the certificate.

Eastern Europe people in general distrust the government more, its a legacy of Communism. Quite a lot of the poles I know are either unvaccinated or only got jabbed so that they could travel freely to Poland after the government imposed restrictions on the unvaccinated in 2021 (now removed after the war).

So, it seems to be Bulgaria is similar, expect even more strong than the Poles.