Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 56
Aug. 30th, 2022 04:59 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we move further into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Stats are right, conclusion is wrong
Date: 2022-09-02 09:52 am (UTC)I want to say that there may be a fundamental contradiction between improved ventilation (which has a great deal of supportive evidence - stale air is detrimental to health for many reasons, and the potential for carrying potentially infective viral loads is only one of them) and wearing masks.
The first *improves* air quality in a space, the second *disimproves* air quality available for direct intake at the locality of the mouths and noses of individuals.
I do think that masks have some value when used by trained professionals as Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) in situations considered especially risky - for example in a surgical theatre/operating room.
However, to ask untrained people to use any old mask, any old way, with no knowledge of what protection they are trying to achieve, and how to actually achieve it, turns out to be counterprotective to the preservation of health. It does not stop transmission of viral loads (because of incorrect use) but it does disimprove the quality of air being breathed (because used at all).
This is what people mean when they say there is no evidence that "masks work". They are referring to this general requirement for people not trained in their uses, to put any old rag across their faces, and keep it there when asked to do so. There is no evidence that this type of requirement achieves anything useful, and some evidence that it can produce harm.
Improved ventilation, on the other hand... It has ALWAYS been a sound recommendation... not just now!
Re: Stats are right, conclusion is wrong
Date: 2022-09-02 09:45 pm (UTC)Watch or read the Petty testimony in the thread above, he will explain much better than I can. He is an industrial hygienist, has spent his entire career learning and practicing how to protect workers from stuff they will be exposed to at work. There is a long and well-established body of practice here. The pandemic masking bullsnort flies in the face of half a century of occupational safety practice.
Re: Stats are right, conclusion is wrong
Date: 2022-09-03 09:50 am (UTC)