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meme 2As we move further into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.  
From: (Anonymous)
The unfortunate Dugin episode has been very educational for me, in terms of media and my response s to it. The initial reports that I read of his daughter's death played up Dugin's supposed Kremlin connections, and warned of serious repercussions, not just in that part of the world.

Today, a couple of sources that I've been following for a more Russian perspective on the war (both ethnic Russians, for what that's worth) have both downplayed Dugin's importance. Both believe he's been more popular in the West than in Russia, proper. The man speaks 20 languages, and thus has been a popular controversial interviewee in Europe, without the need for a translator.

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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
Former soviet-bloc people I've heard from tend to think the guy just wasn't very important, and probably it had to do with money and crime, like most of the times an expensive car gets blown up in Russia.
From: (Anonymous)
Will we pretend that he wasn't the evil incarnated the new Rasputin for the US PMC flunkies?

Also your post is framed so that the source of the hired killing is from inside, he was a minor figure in Russia but a potent symbol in the west and an Arch-Nemesis for the Magical Resistance.

That is a score for the Magical Resistance if we keep scores. Do we forget that they hold a grudge?

Have you checked how many science and academia papers and books in general are studying the influence of Dugin on Putin?

Dugin is an Arch-villain for the PMC left it is worse and older than Donald Trump...

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Alexander+Dugin&year_start=1990&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Alexander+Dugin&btnG=
From: (Anonymous)
Dunno man. I'd never heard of him before this. But I do know a fair number of people from former soviet nations. Just passing along what I'm hearing. I don't know enough to analyze.

You seem really attached to your version, though.
From: (Anonymous)
In the parts where I am from, being attached to my version does not disqualify my version...

We are talking about mainly non-rational sources when we talk about things like these and from what I know attachment to a subject can bring more to light... I also put them through the rational filter of what I kept seeing over and over again about Dugin online.

Your guess is as good as mine if not better, still I felt like giving my version too.
From: (Anonymous)
Several of your phrases are intriguing and show a connection to something of importance behind your thoughts. Thank you.
From: (Anonymous)
FWIW this seems to be their general attitude on *all* rich people in Russia. You kind of don't get rich there without being some kind of gangster or having criminal connections.
From: (Anonymous)
It was like this for all the 90's and a bit in 2000's, but things like these became a thing of the past lately otherwise you would have heard it bull-horned in the UK media all day, if not in the whole Western media.
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
I wasn't trying to disqualify your opinion, merely offer an alternate.

But after seeing your response I'm curious why you're so defensive about alternate views. I may be reading that wrong-- text makes it notoriously difficult to read tone-- but you seemed a bit touchy.
From: (Anonymous)
"You kind of don't get rich there without being some kind of gangster or having criminal connections."

And just how does that makes it different from the West?????????

If you are an American, you only need to look at the likes of Pelosi, Schumer or any one of your congress "critters". Or you can look back in history and see the how the fortunes of the various Jewish banking families were built. Then there is that vile woman in New Zealand and our very own Castro Jr here in Canada.

Compared to the West, the Russians are amateurs.

Liam in Toronto
From: (Anonymous)
Certainly not! In the West we have "philanthropists." Russia has "oligarchs." /sarc

(Reminiscent of how NATO was referred to as a "Treaty" organization, but it was always the Warsaw "Pact." Same word, translated two different ways)
From: (Anonymous)
in agreement with you, and my sarcastic overview:


We're pure. They are Russians. We're pure. They are Russians.
Our Destruction of Syria and Libya is pure.
We. are. so. very. pure.

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