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meme 2As we move further into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.  
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for this, W.R.

In reading about your experience, and also in reading several of the early realnotrare vaxx injury reports, I am struck by how many well-educated young people are willing, even eager, to participate in medical experiments. Now I'm not on my high horse, I may not have participated in medical experimens, but I was young once...

It's difficult to appreciate ex post how awful it can be when things go wrong. And this is one of the great advanages of geting older, more things have gone wrong, so one's appreciation for that possibility is much greater.

And alas, as with that experimenter you had to deal with, for many people, other people, including children who end up in a wheelchair, are just a data point.

I will say, though, that 2020-the present have been an all new level of education for me.

Hoo-weee, lots of peeing on the electric fence going on out there...

Lilac Oscillating Grackle

From: (Anonymous)
When I researched human medical experiment U.S. law I also learned about the reasons experimental "subjects" submit to the experiments by reading a few books at my nearest medical school library. Surprised the majority don't do it just for the cash offered to participate. Most do it out of curiosity and/or altruism thinking their data point matters. I was a combination. So few USA women had pilot licenses then I thought the research might be somehow useful for science and I'd never been legally drunk before and wondered what that felt like. Yup, very young and naive. I was shocked to learn the U.S. law allows an oversight board on human subject research to permit experimenters to lie on informed consent if approved in advance by the board if they deem side-effects or other harms low enough.

This happened more than 20 years ago. "My" board was all white coat doctors with one hospital chaplain associated with the medical school. A stacked deck. The chaplain was the only one with any outrage at what happened to me. The white coats I could tell just worried about being named parties in any lawsuit. Total "us" v. you demeanors from them. A completely sadistic and pathological system for human medical experiments in the U.S. violating the Nuremberg Code for decades which has emboldened and made reckless too many experimenters and their enabling co-conspirator funders. -W.R.
From: (Anonymous)
"I may not have participated in medical experimens, but I was young once..."

Exactly! Every time people express their utter incredulity that so many were unquestioning in following arbitrary protocols and submitting to untested drug trials, I think back to my own behavior in high school and college. When my friends were doing 'shrooms, I didn't go to the trouble to look up the specific mechanism by which they altered consciousness, nor did I wonder whether the dealer may have profitably slipped a few unsafe varieties into the bag. Who was I to abstain from such a venerable coming-of-age ritual?

When all the historic re-enactors at Borodino battlefield in Moscow Oblast were walking out of the concession stand with bottles of green liqueur from under the counter, who was I not to follow their lead, despite not speaking enough Russian to understand what made it such a lurid shade of green? Good Lord, that magical elixir got us so stoned — that explained the rather skunky smell coming out of the bottle too! We're just so trusting and innocent when we're young. Had one of those enticing drugs managed to kill one or more of my friends, I would surely have become much more skeptical about trying out any new unknown intoxicants. But they didn't kill anyone I knew, so hey, what's the big deal? Famous last words...

Although I managed to never deplete my endorphin reserves by trying ecstasy or head right down the rabbit hole by trying crystal meth, it's kind of the luck of the draw that I didn't. Had I had a different circle of friends in those coddled, vulnerable years, I could easily have trusted their questionable endorsement to my own detriment.

Now, my age and experience do a much better job of providing me with a well-worn patina of protection. For those lacking that protective patina, I find it both thoughtless and self-destructive to deride or scorn their poor choices, so markedly similar to choices I remember making in my own innocence and enthusiasm.

— Christophe

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