Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 54
Aug. 16th, 2022 01:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2022-08-18 03:45 pm (UTC)i've had such things happen on the low by accident and just being myself. i'm clean when i'm honest even and especially about MY evils.
but here in SF, man... a non-vax support group? WOW... i'd be more worried about being assassinated over myself being "too exclusive."
i'm the niggra here and have always been wherever i go whatever age i've been.
worrying about being "exclusive" and not inviting EVERYONE in is not my problem as it's more likely to keep the slaves from plotting and being illegal for 2 or more to meet up.
this stuff cuts back on ourselves when we wanna be TOO NICE.
nah. over it. after my visit to the hospital i realize this ain't ending ANY TIME soon, and in fact is a full on THING now. the hate the masks the bitterness the misery.
maybe NEXT spring i'll be ready to start something LOCAL. i actually think "unvax" meetings are INCLUSIVE. it's like al-anon... anyone can come but we're taking care of the OUTSIDERS' pain and need for connection.
in fact, i'd LOVE it if vaxxed came to learn and listen and talk with us not AT us.
but it's hella LONELY and i'm worried it's all far from over because the hate rage and fear is still white hot even if temporarily silenced a bit.
but they're about to lose MORE of their stuff because of the ratchet down, but they're not gonna like it and they'll lash out as they still very much are.
so yeah... i hear you and thank you for the Baldwin warning not to re-niggrify anyone else. i think we're FAR from that concern at this point.
many of us are well-worn niggras and know the game and pitfalls.
gotta go!
breakfast time!
x
erika
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Date: 2022-08-18 05:31 pm (UTC)erika the unsure about anything anymore
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Date: 2022-08-18 06:07 pm (UTC)Have you guys had any topics rolling around for the next podcast? Asking for a friend :)
Murmuration
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Date: 2022-08-18 09:09 pm (UTC)I'm with the Coffee & Covid guy on this one. He thinks it is not a coincidence that the CDC is doing some "reorganizing" and other alphabet agencies look as though they are being prepped to take over the CDC's job in the near future. AND, perhaps not coincidentally, the CDC has failed to release its usual mortality & Morbidity stats the last two months-- those are usually a weekly thing. Because they're (something databases tech blah blah blah).
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-thursday-august-cf4
Anyway, he thinks those two things may be related: they are anticipating a fairly devastating congressional-hearings-level of public outrage when the withheld data goes public. And they are prepping their exit strategy. He also posts a must-see chart for cancer deaths, which seems like it could be relevant to the situation.
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Date: 2022-08-19 12:24 am (UTC)I don't think it was a coincidence that the data about 2.3 trillion dollars of missing military money went up in smoke on 911. My guess is, that's what cyberpolygon (should it happen) is REALLY about. I would not be shocked AT ALL if, at some point between now and november, some servers across the planet were "hacked" in a very dramatic fashion (with appropriately theatrical collateral damage to social media and news sites), blamed on North Korea or Russia, and the relevant data for the impending hearings was a casualty. If the banks got hit too, that wouldn't be awful for the Great Reseters machinations now would it? Pass the tinfoil please. :D
Murmuration
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Date: 2022-08-19 03:49 am (UTC)Re: Yep yep yep, it sucks
Date: 2022-08-19 01:13 am (UTC)1) That cancer chart! People here REALLY should click through just to see that chart, even if you don't read the article. It's nutty. Vaguely hockey stick shaped. It's not good. Not good at all. The rate of cancer appears to have 4 or 5x'd in the time the vax started. Exactly that time frame too.
2) The ASPR is new to me. I'd never heard of it before. Sounds more like a war department really. Defending against pandemics and plagues. To be on the same level as the CDC and the FDA, and to have made nary a ripple in the media landscape...that's weird.
I will note that it's to be 'stood up' by 2024, which coincidentally is the exact same time frame as the WEF's new, constitution overriding, global pandemic treaty. I wonder if this department is being arranged in a manner to allow that new treaty to hook in nice and smooth. Maybe the CDC and FDA don't have the right hooks in place, or are full of crust and barnacles that would slow this down?
Murmuration
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Date: 2022-08-19 09:03 am (UTC)The thing is my husband's family has a history of cancer, so it is not a straightforward slam dunk. My husband is the oldest of three, and their mother died of cancer a month or two after delivering the third. That youngest brother (who was carried by her while she was already sick) died of cancer himself at 42, the middle brother (whose story I've told above) died of cancer at 63, and my husband, the oldest, is, thankfully still healthy, and much loved, also unfoxed, and undoctored, though prone to be chesty.
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Date: 2022-08-19 02:08 am (UTC)Re: Yep yep yep, it sucks
Date: 2022-08-19 02:50 am (UTC)Re: Yep yep yep, it sucks
Date: 2022-08-19 04:51 pm (UTC)Re: Yep yep yep, it sucks
Date: 2022-08-20 02:27 am (UTC)Re: Yep yep yep, it sucks
Date: 2022-08-20 04:09 am (UTC)Will they succeed? I really don't know.
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Date: 2022-08-19 01:53 pm (UTC)https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/massive-increases-in-excess-deaths
TL:DR UK excess deaths are up 14.5% over the five-year average, and has been rising since mid-April. Ambulance call-outs for life-threatening things (there's a separate category for this?) have been rising in tandem, for the same time period. No sign of either of those things slowing.
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Date: 2022-08-19 02:06 pm (UTC)Re: Yep yep yep, it sucks
Date: 2022-08-19 04:56 pm (UTC)Re: Yep yep yep, it sucks
Date: 2022-08-19 03:40 pm (UTC)Re: Yep yep yep, it sucks
Date: 2022-08-19 02:57 pm (UTC)https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9455c726-ba88-449b-ba83-fb5acb8af6a5_720x349.png
It is on coffee and covid andethicalskeptic's twitter, but I can't find it on ES's substack.
Does anyone know where the data came from or what exactly it is depicting?
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Date: 2022-08-20 02:31 am (UTC)Re: Yep yep yep, it sucks
Date: 2022-08-21 01:13 pm (UTC)Here is the post with links to the source data:
https://theethicalskeptic.substack.com/p/houston-we-have-a-problem-part-1?utm_source=%2Fprofile%2F59599194-ethical-skeptic-&utm_medium=reader2
Re: Yep yep yep, it sucks
Date: 2022-08-18 09:38 pm (UTC)dear much-Beloved Brother Murmuration!-
i love hearing back from you personally.
regarding this above, i think it's gonna be an odd mixture of BOTH, depending on where one lives.
YOU cheer me up and i know from history that it doesn't take much to upset lethargy, indifference, thanatos!
BECAUSE YOUR RESPONSE CHEERS ME UP IMMENSELY.
also because you asked about the podcast and James and i got in a big fight about it this morning and maybe... maybe if he sees what you just wrote he'll cave. but he no longer believes in People and i kinda don't CARE about people but more about the ...
what's the word? well it's my way of showing up as myself messy unedited without holding my stomach in so that everyone and anyone knows where i am and when it's time to get together as that IS THE GOAL.
somehow some way... yo no se... but it's gotta happen or i'm all talk and B.S.
but YOU give me the good kind of proverbial "shot in the arm" and i thank you for that because when you've got just at least ONE friend to go outside and play with, magic happens.
gotta go- James needs his computer back.
QUESTION: IF I COULD GET JAMES TO DO ANOTHER PODCAST, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO TALK ABOUT???
we're talking and arguing a whooooole lot but he thinks our last one was horrid and he wants to keep 'em short, like an hour.
fair enough.
SO TELL ME! what do YOU want and screw asking for this Friend... what do YOU want, my dear Murmuration? and because it is YOU, specifically YOU, i will endeavour to give you everything you ask for and MORE because you know how to love LEOS.
you tell me the best things you like about ME, so i'd love the chance to trip over my shoe laces to please you!
tell me!
and i promise i will make it so even if it's only ME.
i promise.
gotta give up this computer. James is back!
xxxxxx
erika