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Collapse now

Date: 2022-07-25 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthculture
When I started my journey to being more sustainable and resilient, the phrase “collapse now and avoid the rush” really resonated. As I continued that journey of learning and action I’ve seen the hard truth of a society crumbling because it cannot maintain its own hyper-inflated infrastructure. It’s been a particularly uncomfortable struggle to realize that collapsing now isn’t about moving onto land and growing a garden and having some solar panels, it’s instead about deflating my own infrastructure to a maintainable point. If my homestead requires water filtration, irrigation, and electric for a/c in melting summers beyond what a few panels can produce, then I’ve just developed new infrastructure to suffer collapsing during the rush.

In the same period I’ve been on a spiritual journey. I’ve just had a glimpse that it is more analogous to the other journey than I had understood. Much of religious and proper magical work seems to be in the interest of spiritually “collapsing now” to “avoid the rush” during the transition into afterlife(s). The practice seems at first glance to be building an infrastructure - look at how hard it is for beginners to just maintain a daily practice (myself included.) After time and reflection that practice is modest and sustainable compared to the psychological, cultural, societal, and karmic infrastructure it helps you separate from. Religious and magical practice seems to create inter-structure and intra-structure respectively. Now I’m on to meditating on how this relates back to my sustainable living journey in the physical world.

Question: is this connection inherent and intended in your body of work? It seems obvious now, yet when I think back it feels like the link between “collapse now and avoid the rush” and druid magic and religion was more of the “live lightly upon the earth” vein… Though, now that even feels like a call to spiritual practice.

Other questions of recent (for you and the commentariat):
I see a divide between people who see a world infused with spirit but don’t physically experiment with that world (even living at a remove from it,) and those who directly interact with embodied world (trade workers, scientists, etc.) but see it as purely material. This is a sharp divide from the classical marriage of practical physics and philosophy. It seems so strange to me. I’ve been toying with the idea that it is all tied to the dominance and cruelty inherent in our environmental-relationship, it drives the spiritual people away from science, and the scientists and workers must avoid spirituality or face the ethics of their actions. What do you make of it?

I’ve recently had a significant tap from the Greek neighborhood (pantheon) of the cosmos. Obviously, we’ve got quite a lot of material. Anyone have some good resources for getting an overview and taking some exploratory steps into the deep end of Greek mythology and religion?

Thank you JMG for graciously hosting us here and being generous with your own understandings and reasonings. Thank you to all the rest of you commenters for the mutual support, and often insightful responses given to one another. Wishing you all a good week.

Re: Collapse now

Date: 2022-07-25 02:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jprussell
On 3), last week, [personal profile] hwistle was kind enough to share Kaye Boesme's blog https://kallisti.blog/ and her book The Soul's Inner Statues: https://kayeofswords.github.io/soulsinnerstatues/

They're a mostly-Platonic take on polytheism, with a focus on the Greek pantheon, so they might be helpful for you.

Cheers,
Jeff

Re: Collapse now

Date: 2022-07-25 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthculture
Thank you! I'll be sure to check her out.

Re: Collapse now

Date: 2022-07-25 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthculture
1. Thank you. That helps. It would make sense that as I progressed in occult study that my understandings of your work informed by those principals would ripen into new understanding.

2. That makes sense; and I'm glad to have your book as a source for further thoughts on the matter.

3. You may have answered this somewhat with the answer to 2, as one of the primary communicators identified as Hermes.

Re: Collapse now

Date: 2022-07-25 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] violetcabra
Burkert's _Greek Religion_ is invaluable for getting a sense of Hellenic religious practice as a historical reality. Also, I recommend Pausanias' travelogue for understanding the wild profusion of regional worship. Herodotus is helpful too in the same way, and also for helping one to remain skeptical about sources of information in general.

Re: Collapse now

Date: 2022-07-26 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthculture
Thank you for these sources!
And for the helpful guidance on your uses for them :)
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