Magic Monday
May. 1st, 2022 11:45 pm
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Rune Poems, Welsh Translation, and the Mabinogion
Date: 2022-05-02 04:06 am (UTC)First, something to share for the commentariat: The Rune Poems, edited by P.D. Brown and Michael Moynihan: https://arcanaeuropamedia.com/products/the-rune-poems . The main primary sources on the various versions of the Runes are the Rune Poems. This book contains a new translation of each of the major Rune Poems. Additionally, and perhaps more excitingly, it also contains a number of poems about the Runes by current esoteric practitioners interested in the Runes. If you're at all interested in the Runes, it's well worth checking out.
As for questions, I have three, all related to reading Welsh for esoteric wisdom:
1) I have not been able to find any discussion of the meaning/etymology of Einigan/Einigain/Einigair/Einiger, other than that "ein" is the (modern?) Welsh word for "our", and that "Einigen" is (coincidentally?) German for "unite". Any pointers on where I might track this down?
2) More broadly, any recommendations on a Welsh Dictionary for supplementing study of the Mabinogion?
3) Building on the above, any chance that a version of the Mabinogion with footnotes and/or esoteric commentary is one of your very many irons in the fire? Or is The Dolmen Arch as close as we're getting there?
Thanks as always for hosting this space and your time and attention in responding.
Cheers,
Jeff
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Date: 2022-05-02 04:07 am (UTC)Blessings to you and my fellow commentators.
1. I’m currently studying the Tree of Life. One night, after reading about Binah, Dante’s Paradiso popped into my mind. It was as if someone was telling me to research on this. When I did, my mind was blown. Dante’s journey through the spheres (from the Moon to the Primum Mobile and beyond) in heaven is basically the reverse Flaming Sword. Even God’s appearance as “three equally large circles” in the Empyrean reminds me of the Three Veils of Negative Existence. Do you think Dante knew of the Kabbalah and/or was an initiate of a mystery tradition?
2. Saturn is the only planet associated with a Sephirot above the Abyss, in the Supernal Triad. Based on this, can one assume that Saturn has a power and influence beyond the other planets?
3. I’m traveling out of the city this week to an island that become a fairly popular tourist destination over the past decade (I live in Asia, btw). I plan to continue doing my daily practices (LBRP, MP, Circulation) while I am there. Do I need to inform the ‘spirits of the land’ that I will be performing my daily practices? If so, what is the proper way to do so?
Thank you for hosting Magic Mondays.
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:10 am (UTC)2) Depends on your version of the Tree! In the version I currently use, Uranus corresponds to Chokmah and Neptune to Kether. In any case, Saturn traditionally has certain spiritual dimensions not present in the other planets, but it's not stronger than they are.
3) Only if you're doing them outdoors in an area with plants. If you're indoors, it'll just be another of those funny things that humans do.
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From:Sun Music
Date: 2022-05-02 04:23 am (UTC)Do you or anybody else have any suggestions for some very solar classical/orchestral music?
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From:a busy week
Date: 2022-05-02 04:23 am (UTC)https://ecosophian.dreamwidth.org/3270.html
and my commentary on the Circles of Power section about contemplation.
https://ecosophian.dreamwidth.org/3576.html
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Date: 2022-05-02 04:24 am (UTC)what is the best way to explain / say something about occult practice to someone not familiar with it, if that subject comes up for any reason?
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:13 am (UTC)Two strategies, short and compasionate
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2022-05-03 04:39 pm (UTC) - ExpandRecommended tarot book?
Date: 2022-05-02 05:01 am (UTC)Happy Beltane!
I've seen you answer this question before multiple times and sincerely apologize that I am bad at searching Dreamwidth posts... nevertheless...
Could you please repeat what book you would recommend as the best general guide to the tarot? I recall it having a generic title, but a specific author's name, and that you mentioned it was published in the 70s.
Thank you very much for your patience!
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:15 am (UTC)In another year or two, I'll have something else to recommend -- I've just located a big trove of John Gilbert's fine lessons and essays on the tarot, and have received permission from his executor to assemble them into a book and get it published. Stay tuned!
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:16 am (UTC)How long do I leave a jar of magical stuff buried by the side of the road to dissipate its energies? If it surfaces again, do I re-bury it, or can I take it out with the trash after a while?
In mid-Fall last year, I found a glass jar that had rolled down the hill from my neighbour's yard. Not too surprising, as they both have the look and feel of dabblers in the occult. It had some brown solids in it, some liquids and maybe sticks and other things. I took it for some sort of magical working, and was advised here to bury it un-opened by the side of the road so that whatever energies were inside it could dissipate with the passing traffic.
I buried it on the edge of my property line in the middle of the night without lights, and pulled a flap of turf aside, replacing it so as to hide the hole. I am pretty sure I was not observed.
After I buried the jar, one of my neighbours began to walk around the road at the edge of my property. Maybe she could feel that she had lost something, I'm not sure.
Four months later, the neighbours moved away.
Five months later, the jar top poked up out of the earth.
I re-buried the jar--but could I just throw it away at this point? How long do I need to leave it buried by the side of the road?
Thank you for hosting this forum, and thanks to all who comment! I have learned a great deal here.
--Obsidian Paradoxical Neanderthal
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:17 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-05-02 05:30 am (UTC)I'm still thinking on which of the Welsh gods could be considered as a Uranian deity or at least covering some part of the Uranian spectrum. Seeing how Hu the Mighty is assigned to the 2nd Sphere of the Tree of Life in CGD and how you proposed to assign Uranus to the same Sphere in the book of Pluto, it seems that Hu might have a relationship there. The bits of lore that talk about him say that he brought his people to Britain, that he invented the plough, and gave them poetry - all sound as almost revolutionary changes and in line with the more benevolent and balanced side of Uranus.
Does it make any sense?
You are probably way more familiar with the energies or the feel of both Uranus and Hu. If you are and you feel comfortable talking about it in the open, from your experience, is there any similarity to speak of?
Or is it more of a case that everyone interested would have to establish their own relationship to both and see for themselves?
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Date: 2022-05-02 07:10 am (UTC)What astrological concepts and/or techniques do I need to learn to figure out what's going on and do something about it? I know that there is a way to take the current chart and cross reference it with my natal chart but I don't know the details.
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:14 pm (UTC)Basically what you do is look at the aspect and interpret it as though it's temporarily part of your natal chart. If (let's say) the transiting Sun squares your natal Mars, yeah, you can expect some chaos!
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Date: 2022-05-02 07:13 am (UTC)This would in turn mean that the angels who aren't star logoi are from later swarms, which would show just how many swarms have passed through this solar system before us mere humans. I'm imagining that the number is more than 12 but probably less than 100.
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:18 pm (UTC)"Archangels are a little different. They, like the Solar Logos, completed their evolutionary journey long before this solar system was even formed; they are the Star Logoi discussed in the Cosmic Doctrine and the gods of the old Pagan faiths. They are far beyond the angels in evolution and in complexity. They also cooperate with the Solar Logos in the shaping of the solar system's evolution and destiny."
The archangels are thus older than the three swarms that became the Lords of Flame, Form, and Mind. The Lords of Flame are the angels, who thus rank below the archangels.
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From:serpentine omen
Date: 2022-05-02 07:42 am (UTC)Greetings JMG and readers,
Today my partner was driving through the town where we live, a town of about 4500 people with a highway running through it. Waiting at the lights at the main intersection he saw a snake in the middle of the road.
It lunged at passing highway traffic, trying to strike cars and trucks, including a bus that ran over it but did not harm it. Then it made towards a pedestrian waiting at the kerb to cross the road. Partner called out to the man that it was a red-bellied black snake and was dangerous. The man hurried away across the side street to avoid it.
No, we had not seen a snake in this place before even though we have lived beside bush blocks for three years.
This feels significant.
iridescent scintillating elver
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:19 pm (UTC)Sacred geometry on the wheel of life
Date: 2022-05-02 07:56 am (UTC)Have you mapped the symbols in your sacred geometry oracle onto the wheel of life?
Thanks
Sea Spray
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Date: 2022-05-02 07:56 am (UTC)The break in the line is on both hands but the upper lines don't rush towards the Venus Hill.
Some say that if they don't rush towards the Venus Hill they would probably not be fatal.
What to make of it?
I am definitely feeling that I am at some turning point in my life, there is a lot of trouble lately and there is a lot of death around where I eat a soup daily they organize alms for people that passed away very often.
How do we get ourselves preparing for the Big Exit?
And if we end up remaining here how do we proceed on keeping human and psychologically sane? it seem to me that we are in a world where people and things are starting to collapse, a few people collapsed earlier and avoided the rush but that comes with some personal image penalty...
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:31 pm (UTC)As for your broader question, that's not something that has only one answer!
Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul
Date: 2022-05-02 08:56 am (UTC)I was gifted a dark night of the soul last week, in which I saw clearly how I had caused my own suffering in regards to my current health issue. Part of it was an honest mistake, but the other part was utterly foolish. It hadn't occurred to me that almost immediately after surgery from a different injury, I would need to go back to the doctor and start the process all over with a new injury. That, and I hide my pain, so my husband didn't realize he needed to urge me to go to the doctor. It took being in pain for 2.5 years to finally get an X-ray and realize I'm injured.
This frustration opened the door to a deep anger, where I mentally was violently destructive in imagining revenge toward myself for causing my own suffering. This only lasted a few moments and must have ended due to an angel's prompting: my husband came into the next room and declared a Lord of the Rings watch party.
The next day I realized this was the same pattern with my Devouring Mother Archetype growing up. Much of it was an honest mistake; as a child I didn't realize my mother could twist me mentally and emotionally, and that such things were abuse. It wasn't until she tried to physically attack me at age 30 that I finally processed this was abuse.
The same dark pattern of self-hatred flows all through that. I hated myself for letting myself be twisted by her, for never standing up. Though the one time I did was at age 30 when she then physically attacked me, so standing up as a child would have been a bad idea.
It feels like I opened up this deep, terrible thing in the ground and finally let it dissipate into the air. I saw the horrible anger but I only indulged for those few dark minutes. After that I let it go and haven't reached for it. OSA has surely helped open this, and praying to the Healer (Apollo). I understand that I do not need to punish myself for this by hating myself. Months or potentially years of work to get back out of pain will be hard enough.
I am wondering what you recommend I do to handle this. I've mostly just been tired, like a lot of the processing is going on behind the scenes in my psyche. I feel like I need a "staycation" of lots of rest, good food, gentle walks and quiet. Sorry for the long post, and thank you.
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Date: 2022-05-02 09:17 am (UTC)Entry-level question on astrology, if you wouldn't mind.
I've been told by an astrologer that my Sun is in Aquarius, and is therefore in detriment. (I have a Sagittarius ascendant if that makes any difference). So I should do what I can to support the Sun. I already know about planetary charity, and practice it, but as I understand it, that's more for achieving specific things. Have you or any of the commentariat any simple, practical suggestions for strengthening the Sun generally?
Thank you.
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:39 pm (UTC)Second, the essential dignity of the Sun (and every other planet) is only a very small part of the picture. Your natal Sun's house placement, the condition of the planet ruling the house where it is located, any aspects the Sun may have with other planets, and any planets in whichever house the Sun rules in your natal chart, all have to be factored in to gauge the strength or weakness of your natal Sun. The kind of single-factor astrology that treats (say) the Sun's placement in the sign of its detriment all by itself is one of the main reasons astrology has fallen into disrepute.
What all this implies is that you may or may not need to strengthen the solar force in your personality and subtle body, and you may or may not be in a situation where you can do so. A thorough grasp of your natal chart is necessary before you should do anything beyond purely symptomatic workings of this kind!
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2022-05-02 10:22 pm (UTC) - ExpandKarma & meetup mid-southern Germany?
Date: 2022-05-02 10:18 am (UTC)1.) I hope I can ask this question clear:
in another post you mentioned, IIRC, that going the path of the enlightetd/ the magician often involves three livetimes, one getting started, one getting good, the last a rather short one with often a ...not so nice end - I wondered first why the not so nice end and second about the karma for the bringers of the not so nice end - I had to think about e.g. (roman catholic) Frere Roger of Taizé, who founded a monastery that was open to all and celebrating easter every weekend, who - after a long and fruitful live and also apparently after having set his things more or less in order because the old age started to show got attacked during one mass with a knive and killed. The killer apparently being insane ( I think schizoprenic was the diagnose). This would set up Frere Roger up to be a Martyr, but the one who set him up wil lbe getting the karma of a murderer, yes?
So in essence, if I take up those three lifetimes I´m setting another person up with bad karma? What is your take on this?
2.) @ I think Booklover, but maybe another fellow German here: I also had the equation Ceremony = magic in my head, maybe it´s a German thing, worth meditating over, thank you for asking that question.
3.) So - are there other JMG blog readers around Frankfurt that would like to meet up and figure out if in real life we really have a potatonose (or some suche) and only rather would like to meet up in text?
Heliotrope Fetid Mongoose - Emily07
Re: Karma & meetup mid-southern Germany?
Date: 2022-05-02 05:47 pm (UTC)The guy from Nazareth understood this -- one of the many reasons why a lot of occultists think he was an initiate: "Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!"
Gold tincture
Date: 2022-05-02 10:27 am (UTC)1. In the chapter on talismans in CoP, you recommend "painting" the talisman with a gold tincture. Is this the same thing as colloidal gold? Can the latter be used as a substitute?
2. Connecting the crosses in the RC ritual, should the shape be a square or a circle?
Re: Gold tincture
Date: 2022-05-02 05:50 pm (UTC)2) Depends on the shape of the room, since the crosses go in the corners. In most rooms it's either a square or a rectangle.
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Date: 2022-05-02 10:51 am (UTC)I'm still very early in your LRM, proceeding slowly. I have been quite regular in my meditation practice, and after meditation, I usually perform the Quabbalistic Cross. I notice that without fail, every time I do the QC, I feel a tingly sensation, like a chill or a faint electric buzz. It is mostly in my chest and shoulders as my hand traces the shape of the cross from the top of my head, down my trunk and then up to right and left shoulders. It also seems to build in intensity as I do the ritual.
Many years ago, I had a favorite musical piece (fairly obscure, but it featured riffs by a well-known American acoustic guitarist and an Indian musician playing a traditional Indian stringed instrument whose name I forget). The song built to a wonderful bluesy crescendo, and to this day, whenever I hear that part of the song I get that same feeling-- a shivery energy that resolves in a very satisfying way. It reminds me of the satisfaction of a good sneeze in how it builds and releases.
What is this sensation? I am a person who largely lives in my head rather than experiencing life through my body, so it's quite intriguing. Etheric energies, or perhaps something completely different? Identifying (let alone experiencing) such things is quite new to me. Thank you.
*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-05-02 12:23 pm (UTC)There was a conjunction of Venus and Jupiter the other day, and unfortunately I missed seeing it, but I just wondered if the act of seeing an astrological event makes any difference to a person in terms of how it affects them, or if the energies just reach them regardless either way?
Thanks.
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Date: 2022-05-02 01:09 pm (UTC)How would you interpret a shield chart whose court is made up entirely of Populus? "It depends"?
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:54 pm (UTC)Animism
Date: 2022-05-02 01:57 pm (UTC)Thank you,
Tjololo
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Date: 2022-05-02 02:00 pm (UTC)Or am I talking about something different that what Beckett suggested? He was referring to whether he should write a book on advanced Polytheism. Is this some sort of modern idea of stages of religion?
Call me confused.
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:56 pm (UTC)Yes, I'd expect to see that from him. When Beckett says "nobody ever becomes advanced" what he's actually saying is "I'm smarter than everyone else and they should listen to me."
Taoism
Date: 2022-05-02 02:16 pm (UTC)The Sane Polytheism group is compiling starter guides for many varieties of polytheism. I would like to contribute a post for those interested in Taoism/Daoism/Chinese folk religion. Does anyone have recommendations for books or other resources, especially those with detail on ritual and practices? I recently read “The Souls of China” which touches on Daoist practices in modern day China, along with the rise of Christianity and other religious practices. And, of course, the Tao Te Ching. Any other suggestions or personal insights/experience?
Thanks!
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Date: 2022-05-02 05:50 pm (UTC)Not religious, but helpful for providing some context, China: It's History and Culture by Morton and Lewis does an admirable job of giving a very brief overview of China's long history, which is helpful if your education, like mine, was woefully inadequate in this area.
I also have the Bollingen edition of the I Ching, largely due to its association with Jung, but I haven't done more than skim and read a bit of the introduction. I hear it's pretty well-regarded.
Lastly, though not strictly "Taoist", I imagine Confucius also ought to go on any Chinese philosophical/spiritual reading list.
I look forward to seeing what other folks have to say!
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Date: 2022-05-02 06:20 pm (UTC)Maybe I'm showing my age, but all this reminds me forcefully of a bit of business from an early Cerebus the Aardvark comic. Cerebus and this peasant go into the tower of an evil sorcerer. All of a sudden black smoke billows and a voice booms out: "None may enter the dark castle of Necross save that they are evil. Are you evil?" The peasant, who's been sweating bullets the whole time, cracks, and starts babbling, "Yes, I'm evil! I look down women's dresses! I shirk my chores! I take more than my share at dinner! Evil? Why, I'm positively Satanic!"
There is a sudden ZOT! and the peasant is reduced to a grease spot. "Evil, yes," booms the voice. "But also incredibly boring."
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2022-05-02 08:47 pm (UTC) - ExpandA horoscope question (if it fits here)…
Date: 2022-05-02 02:37 pm (UTC)If Joe Biden were to abrogate the Constitution and declare himself dictator on September 1 of 2024 and hold power until the December 29 of 2025, would we still be operating under January 21 of 2021 chart, or would we cast a new chart for September 1st of 2024?
The wider question: If an elected leader takes on dictatorial power (by which I include an indefinite period of power, not one circumscribed by laws and/or custom), does the original election date still act as the leader's astrological chart, or do you cast a new one for when the Presidency is turned into a dictatorship? Similarly, do you cast a new astrological chart for every inauguration or do Incumbents continue under the original horoscope?
Hope the questions are clear...
– Godozo
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