Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 18

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as the corporate media insists that all those heart attacks are the product of "post-pandemic stress disorder" and that it's perfectly normal for children to drop dead of cardiac arrest, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The usual Tuesday updated .epub file with hypothesis, all opens posts and comments:
https://mega.nz/file/0MpWFbZD#DVDMOjfij0ebNRH4XUcYsS14Zm7aMFu290vu5L-XEDs

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for doing this. Already it has been most illuminating to look back on previous weeks posts. How things are changing!

[(Anonymous)]

Do we know yet what the real mortality rate is from getting the vaccines? Let's treat it as a disease itself and call the different vaccine brands as variants and count everyone who has had any exposure to any variant. I know, I know, the establishment wants no contact with the truth whatsoever but someone should have run some numbers by now, even if they are slide rule dodgy.

That should tell us quite a bit about whether this will be an eventual bump in the road or another coming of the black death, katie bar the door.

I would find it so very ironic if the vaccines are killing more people than the disease itself.

[(Anonymous)]

We don't. We can't yet, since it's quite common for horrific effects to show up five years later...

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of people say that the foxed go to mass formation or collective psychosis, some are suggesting that this will have a similar movement originating in the opposition.
If that happens is very possible that there will be no cracks in the narrative due to new evidence but only if something destructive happens to destroy the base of the current psychotic crowd, is this compatible with you hypothesis, can we see another complication to the madness like a war, civil war or other self-inflicted crisis worthy of a psychotic crowd.

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno. I think we may see something more like the USSR collapse. If there is kinetic stuff, it'll happen because the central govt isn't there to sit on anyone anymore, also see: Yugoslavia.

Think balkanization. Think Yugoslavia.

December assessment

[(Anonymous)]

As more time passes without seeing significant Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE), my level of concern regarding an ADE disaster scenario continues to drop. I certainly hope this does not come to pass, in part because I do not wish to experience the level of madness that would propagate across society if it turned out that the savior vaccines fatally worsened the very problem they were supposed to solve. (The Delta clade of SARS-CoV2 appears to utilize a limited sort of ADE wherein non-neutralizing antibodies stabilize the spike protein in an active conformation thereby increasing infectivity, but this is not obviously vaccine-linked nor is it especially deadly.)

Thinking about it on a broader scale, it is not so often that a policy or technology directly worsens the specific problem it seeks to solve. Instead we commonly see narrowly-defined success and broadly-defined failure, caused by choosing the wrong parameters to optimize. So it is that corporations maximize short-term shareholder profits at the expense of long-term sustainability/strategy, and doctors prescribe pills to alleviate symptoms without addressing the underlying causes of disease, and farmers grow vast uniform yield-optimized monocultures as topsoil blows and washes away.

The task that the covid vaccines were assigned – the test they had to pass – was to reduce incidence of symptomatic SARS-CoV2 infection, hospitalization, and death in vaccinated people over six months following administration. Omicron may well be a curve ball, but so far it seems that they have succeeded at this. Perhaps not surprisingly, they have failed at nearly every relevant metric increasing in scope from their assigned mission.

• Reduction of infection risk *after* six months: FAIL (efficacy drops to zero and may actually go negative)

• Reduction in all-cause mortality: FAIL (vaccine-associated deaths likely exceed lives saved, at least among lower-risk groups)

• Reduction in overall number of covid cases/deaths across the population over time: FAIL (likely due to enhanced asymptomatic spread and directed viral mutation along with waning immunity)

• Improvement in overall health: FAIL (vaccines cause long-lasting negative effects in a significant number of recipients)

• Improvement in societal well-being: FAIL (vaccine mandates are toxically divisive and aligned with authoritarian political agendas)

There is a new paper out of Israel that examines waning immunity in four groups: recovered, vaccinated, recovered-then-vaccinated, and vaccinated-then-recovered. (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.04.21267114v1.full.pdf) This is all with the Pfizer mRNA shot. Figure 3 is especially illuminating. The only thing conspicuously missing here is a risk bar for unvaccinated-and-uninfected, which would indicate whether vaccine efficacy drops below zero at some point.

Vaccination is inferior to recovered immunity after two months and fades rapidly thereafter. Vaccination after recovery temporarily boosts immunity (similar to another infection), but recovery after vaccination appears to yield slightly weaker immunity than recovery alone – particularly after 6-8 months – lending some credence to the Original Antigenic Sin hypothesis. Booster shots temporarily restore robust immunity, and this paper will be used to justify an ongoing series of boosters. Israel has already approved a fourth shot for some populations.

I still think we are broadly on track with JMG’s hypothesis, with the exception of the ADE mechanism as the primary driver. At this point elimination or discrediting of the control group has to be on the minds of pharmaceutical executives and politicians who are aware of the growing adverse effect toll. Meanwhile, those lower on the rungs of public health and medicine take comfort in the fact that the vaccines offer short-term protection against a disease whose real risks have been vastly overhyped, and continue to promote the shots and boosters on that basis alone.

In the months ahead, I think we will see an escalating health crisis with two broad causes. The resulting effects on the body are wide-ranging and have high background rates (e.g. heart disease, cancer, neurological conditions, autoimmune diseases), which unfortunately means that the situation could get rather dire before the overall narrative breaks down. I do, personally, expect the narrative to eventually break and people to turn against the vaccines – but this could take some months yet and a great deal of unnecessary self-harm will be done in the meantime.


Cause 1: Acute and cumulative spike protein toxicity

We know that the spike protein alone can trigger inflammation and tissue damage in animal models. We also know that it binds to fibrinogen (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8380922/), triggering atypical long-lasting fibrin clots that are themselves an inflammatory trigger (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.12.464152v1.full.pdf). It may also, based on some preliminary research, localize to the cell nucleus and inhibit DNA repair (https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/10/2056/htm?title), and it may cause neurological problems by triggering amyloid deposition in the brain (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33789211/).

The spike protein is a bioactive molecule that has not been fully characterized for toxicity and carcinogenicity. Reformulation of vaccines to target Omicron without proper testing could easily make the situation worse; a modified spike protein could have stronger or different effects on the body. And each booster will add another acute exposure and increase cumulative exposure. The idea that new formulations of the shots don’t need to be tested because the ingredients in the injection are functionally the same is extremely misguided. The spike protein – coded for but not directly included – is effectively the active ingredient, and the active ingredient is changing thereby making it by any reasonable assessment a new drug.

There is also a possibility that vaccine-induced tolerance/immunocompromise (see #2 below) could lead to increased/prolonged systemic spike protein expression during SARS-CoV2 infection with an immune-evading variant like Omicron, further increasing spike exposure and lending some credence to the “Red Death hypothesis” proposed here a couple of weeks ago. (https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/159009.html?thread=22163233)


Cause 2: Immune dysregulation/tissue damage from repeated genetic vaccination

It is not normal for otherwise-healthy human cells to produce vast quantities of a foreign protein. The immediate effect of this “transfection” (with mRNA, or viral-vectored DNA) and spike protein production is an immune attack on the errant cells, ultimately leading to anti-spike antibody production. That adaptive immune response has been the sole reductionist focus of most investigations. The initial self-attack can cause tissue damage and inflammation – it’s quite possible that myocarditis is largely a result of spike mRNA injected into the bloodstream, with heart muscle cells producing spike protein and triggering an immune response. The adaptive immune response could also cause adverse effects; high-levels of anti-spike antibodies over time could induce high levels of secondary anti-idiotopic antibodies which may mimic the spike protein itself in form and toxicity (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMcibr2113694).

At least equally concerning are the medium- and long-term effects on innate immune functioning. The innate immune system must maintain a delicate equilibrium, rapidly destroying foreign invaders and nascent cancers while avoiding self-attack against the many thousands of protein antigens present on our own cells. Genetic vaccination disrupts this equilibrium by generating conflicting signals: foreign protein (attack!) on otherwise-healthy human cells (hold your fire!). This disruption – especially if repeated multiple times – could easily tip this balance in either direction, toward greater autoimmunity (leading to chronic inflammation or degenerative disease) or toward greater tolerance/immunocompromise (leading to a weaker defense against common infections, dormant viruses, or developing cancer cells), or even both at once (increased autoimmunity, leading to increased tolerance as a reaction).


Mark L

Re: December assessment

[ecosophia]

This seems entirely plausible to me. My original hypothesis focused on ADE because that was the problem that seemed most likely, given the limited data I had on hand. If vaccine casualties come by way of a different mechanism, that changes some of the details but not the overall picture -- and as I noted in my original post on the subject, one of the things that will have a massive role on the outcome is just how bad the casualty rate will turn out to be. (I have my own guess, but it's from transrational sources and so we'll just have to see what happens.)

Fascinating Observations from a Gym Owner

[(Anonymous)]

I have been exchanging emails with a man who owns a gym. He tracks clients health but does so from outside the medical industry, thus the data he is finding, although antidotal, is nevertheless unbiased by profit motives. He recently sent me the following email and I wanted to share it with you. The context is that he had previously sent me some disturbing observations, but now is realizing the situation was worse than he at first realized.

"I fear that I misled you. Since that email, I wrote down everyone that I work with at least twice a week, and with whom I have discussed overall health since they were fully mRNA treated. I did not include anyone who I know is treated but with whom I have not discussed this aspect of their well being. All events occurred within three months of the second treatment. Four were literally the same day.

I came up with 14 people.

Only one of them has not mentioned any particular problems, other than occasional fatigue, which could be attributable to any number of factors.

The remaining 13 all had issues. Three were hospitalized for at least one night. The least problematic was an immediate week-long "cold" that kept them from work and play (4 people). The worst ranged from a serious cancer flare up, heart attack, the development of adult asthma, an RSV infection that lasted for 6 weeks, and guillain barre syndrome. Ages ranged from 37 to 84. All but two are under 60. Four of them are still struggling with daily life.

With two exceptions, all of these people would have been in the top 10% of the population for overall health: i.e. no obesity, diabetes, asthma, high blood pressure, heart disease etc. None of them would have been at a high risk of dying from Covid. The one who had the heart attack had been told by his gp that he was "disgustingly healthy" one month before his first mRNA treatment. The attack came one week after the second injection.

Doing an informal count of untreated clients that I have discussed health in depth with, including myself, I came up with five people. None of them have had an internal medical event, including a cold, in the last year. We will see if this changes once the virus spreads more.

There are another seven clients that I do not have enough specific information about to know whether they've had a treatment or not. I never discuss it with anyone in a professional setting unless they initiate the conversation.

I see people often, monitor their overall health over long periods of time (15 years is the longest running), and get to have in-depth, prolonged conversations with them. In many cases, I know more about them than their spouses. I am certain that many people are not reporting their issues.

None of the persons above considered their experience as an adverse event.

You are free to share the above if you want, omitting my name and location, please."

These man lives in a country with near total vaccination among adults and is actively looking to vaccinate children next. It looks like there is a mass, general descent in sickness that most people are shrugging off. Have others found this level of trouble brewing, or does this sound like an extreme case?

Re: Fascinating Observations from a Gym Owner

[(Anonymous)]

I have the impression that the fox is leading to a lot of health problems and hospital admissions. A few weeks back Western Australia was mentioned here: the premier said on tv that the hospitals were overflowing but they had no idea what was causing it. At that moment most adults had been foxed while WA hardly had seen any Corona infections.

Boccaccio

[(Anonymous)]

Hi -

I am so sorry to have to ask this again, but could someone please link me to the information on historic cell salt protocols for covid-like diseases?

I need to do some historical research.

Thanks!

[ecosophia]

Here's the bit of historical research I posted earlier.

"Back in the day, when biochemic cell salts were commonly used by occultists and their properties were taught in many occult correspondence courses, it was held that the negative health consequences of mainstream medicine could be treated with a course of Nat. mur. 6x and Kali sulph. 6x, three doses of each every day, in alternation -- that is, a dose of one on rising, a dose of the other a few hours later and so on.

"Two other combinations could also be considered relevant. Illnesses that caused blood clotting or damaged the epithelial cells lining the blood vessels were treated with Calc. sulph. 6x and Kali mur. 6x, taken together four times daily. When acute inflammatory illnesses occurred, the treatment recommended in those days was Ferrum phos. 6x and Nat. sulph. 6x, taken together four times daily. The usual dose for an adult was four tablets, and of course 6x is a specific homeopathic dilution.

"Of course, none of this should be taken as anything approaching medical advice, which I am not legally qualified to preside, and does not claim to treat, heal, or cure any illness or set of illnesses. It is provided purely as a historical curiosity."

[(Anonymous)]

Below a link to Desmets explanation of mass formation. What I find extra in this video with Chris Martensen is his advice on how to escape mass formation. Basically to

1) Speak up so there is a dissenting voice.
2) Make every effort to be polite, kind, and understanding so you don't fall into the trap that those who speak against the narrative are evil, hostile bogeyman as portrayed by said narrative. Must always be the voice of kindness, reason, and understanding, as that is what we are.

https://www.peakprosperity.com/mattias-desmet-on-mass-formation/

It strikes me as appropriate that now may be a good time to bring in some humor about the whole situation. Not only because it breaks the anxiety being used to create mass formation, but humor is a cure for countering absurdity, in my opinion. Careful application to apply humor to the absurd policies that are bound to fail and not to the virus itself, of course.

[revert2mean]

And right on cue for the humour, the interwebs seem to have a lot of video of burly outraged men singing "You can stick your vaccine mandates up your arse ..."

[adeimantus]

Hello everyone,

I'm sad to report that my request for a religious exemption from the fox was denied by my employer, and that I'll be placed on unpaid leave effective later this month, to be followed by a termination if I don't comply. This is with a large corporation in Canada, working in a heavily PMC-leaning city. I appreciate all the advice that I've received here over the last several months, but unfortunately it wasn't enough, as it appears that my employer is committed to denying everyone no matter what. I understand that some people here received rubber-stamped approvals, but this was not the case for me, as even with 3(!) letters of support from my religious organization it wasn't enough.

I'm in an extremely difficult position and I honestly don't know what to do next. It seems like there's no end to the Covid hysteria in this country. The government is buying tens of millions of new doses, infinite boosters are planned, and even harsher measures are probably on the horizon, with the compliance of the great majority of the population, and supported by virtually every major institution. I've carried out my own personal resistance as best as I could, I've talked to everyone that I'm close to, but there's only so much I can do against overwhelming opposition. I'm now demoralized and ready to give up.

Unfortunately I don't have a secondary source of income, having neglected to plan for it for too long. In an ideal world I would be self-employed and earn a living online, but I recognize that it takes several years to set up, and I'm out of time. My choice amounts to signing up for infinite boosters as long as the government considers that it's in my best interest or losing my livelihood and potentially losing my ability to participate in society altogether. I dread that the karma of compliance at this late stage would offset the karma of attempting to do something about it over the last several months.

To those who still have time, I would urge you to "collapse now and avoid the rush", and make sure that your livelihood is free from the whims of government or corporate bureaucrats. Self-reliance to the greatest extent possible is the best bet to preserve our independence going forward.

I humbly ask for your prayers to the god(s) of your choice in this dark hour.

[seanbolger1]

One of the reasons the UK has achieved such high vixen rates is because its been very easy to just pay people to have your status on the NHS app changed. I'm not advocating committing a crime it's just something I read about in the daily mail and other newspapers. It's been reported for quite some time that many mostly wealthy and famous have paid for their vixen status and avoided a lot of inconveniences that way.
Although we don't have a general vixen mandate you do need the pass for things like international travel and many events.
I would be surprised if people in other countries weren't doing the same thing. Obviously its dishonest and illegal, but I can understand why someone would do it to save their job and keep a roof over their head.
I went to the motorbike show on Monday at the nec in Birmingham and they had a requirement for a vaxpass and masks.
Yet people were just showing screenshots that weren't properly checked and barely 2 percent of the people in there were wearing masks.
Here in England it looks like the appearance of compliance is more important than actually complying.
Kind regards
Sean

[(Anonymous)]

Has anyone else noticed the extent to which the Covid-19 panic was initially spread on the internet, and wondering if this might have been intentional on the part of the tech companies? It dramatically increased demand for their services, and eliminated a number of competitors in various areas of life; which would be in their interest.

If so, I wonder if this was an attack of opportunity or a sign of desperation. If it was a sign of desperation, hold on to your hats, since passing peak internet is going to be horrifically disruptive...

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article235465566/Fuenf-Tote-in-Koenigs-Wusterhausen-Abschiedsbrief-vom-Vater-gefunden.html

In a nutshell:

The husband had a vaxx passport forged for his wife; her employer found out about it. The pair was terrified that they would go to jail for the forgery, and that their children would be taken from them by the state.

So the man shot his wife, his children (aged ten, eight, and four), and finally himself.

This is how much our politicians have escalated their rethoric against the Unclean: people feel so cornered that, in their abject terror, death seems to be the only escape.

- Athaia-

[(Anonymous)]

So, from the point of view of the politicians, it's working great!
I have no doubt that "abject terror" is high on the list of strategic objectives in the Chancellor's office.

[tamanous2020]

Does anyone have a URL to the studies of previously attemped corona vaccines on animals? I've been unable to find them so far, just other articles which reference the matter.

[frittermywig]

The article, "18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine" links to some of them under Reason #3.

[(Anonymous)]

Fred Hiatt, milquetoast journalist and editor of the Washington Post, is dead at 66 of sudden cardiac arrest:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/06/business/media/fred-hiatt-dead.html

HMMMMM
HMMMMM
WELP NOTHING TO SEE HERE

-Cliff

Molnupiravir etc signs of Malfeasance

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.minnpost.com/health/2021/12/what-to-know-about-molnupiravir-the-covid-pill-that-could-be-coming-to-a-pharmacy-near-you/

The FDA just OK'd Molnupiravir, from Merck, a drug to take if you have Covid but are not yet hospitalized, on a 13-10 vote, despite that the FDA ready admits, the efficacy is middling, the desired results are dubious, that is can give rise to variants, and can possibly cause mutations in your DNA.

It is quite obvious at this point, science has given way to The Science, aka whatever corporate Pharma decides and there will be no discussion whatever of non-pharmaceutical treatments. Public Health does not matter, it is only really about corporate profits.

In addition, Officialdom deciding without any real evidence whatever that we MUST get vaccinated and boosted in response to Omicron, is another sign science is nothing compared to The Science, the official narrative.

That and it is clear there is another push by the NYT and WaPo to disparage the lab-leak theory, using "scientists" who are DEEPLY in the pockets of Fauci. Which is not necessarily evidence that the lab-leak theory is true, but makes it a LOT easier to believe.

Re: Molnupiravir etc signs of Malfeasance

[(Anonymous)]

I meant to add, here is Greenwald on the lab-leak theory and the recent attempts by WaPo and NYT to discredit the theory. NYT uses none other than Peter Daszak, of EcoHealth Alliance, who of course was the person Fauci funneled money through to get to the Wuhan Virology facility, who Fauci also hired to originally head the study looking into the lab leak theory who called it a conspiracy theory, who has since been called into disrepute. That the NYT is reviving him is too bizarre even for fiction.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/to-deny-the-lab-leak-covid-theory

"So who is this Dr. Garry, eager to proclaim the debate closed? The Post does not provide the key facts to enable the reader to assess his credibility. All we know from the Post article is that he is “a virologist at Tulane University and one of the most vocal proponents of the zoonosis hypothesis.” But there is so much more to him than that."

This is how the article ends for non-subscribers. Dr Garry it turns out, was one of four virologists who in early 2020 wrote a letter to Fauci telling him the virus had unquestionable signs of artificial manipulation. Fauci and his counterpart in Europe rushed a meeting, after which all four scientists did a 180. Mr Garry it turns out, was thereafter the beneficiary of an 82 million dollar research grant.


William Hunter Duncan

[(Anonymous)]

Is anyone else struck by the temporal coincidence of the abortion debate being re-opened, as it were, by the Supreme Court at the same moment in history that bodily autonomy is being discussed in regards to the vaccines? Is it a coincidence that it looks like bodily autonomy will be lessened in regards to abortion?

I wonder if there is a move to align the message here, so that when general mandates are pushed forward, the ‘excuse’ of bodily autonomy in one area, but not the other, will have already been nipped in the bud.

[(Anonymous)]

I hadn't considered that link, but it had struck me how all there's a likely overlap between pro-choice people and pro-vaccine mandate people. There's no coherent way to declare "my body, my choice" in regards to pregnancy, but then agitate for mandatory vaccinations. It's the converse situation for the Right.

[(Anonymous)]

Terrible:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-12-07/german-man-his-kills-entire-family-murder-suicide-motivated-vaccine-passport

I believe Gandhi suggested that the Jews should've collectively killed themselves in mass protest against the Nazis - he reasoned that they were going to die anyway, so it might as well be in an effort to gather sympathy for their plight.

Will events get that desperate and awful? They already seem to have for this family.

[deborah_bender]

I hope Gandhi didn't say anything that stupid.

The Nazis took good care to conceal their plans for the Final Solution from the entire world, and from the Jewish populations of the countries they controlled. They lied and lied.

Jewish history is full of dire situations that seemed hopeless. In some instances at least a remnant survived. In other instances, the soon-to-be slaughtered fought back and took a few of their enemies with them. Was Gandhi advocating that parents kill themselves and leave their orphans at the mercy of their captors, or murder their children first? The refugee ship that tried to dock in US waters and was turned back to occupied Europe to die did not inspire much sympathy from the American public.

[stcathalexandria]

Friend of mine asked, what is it going to take for the covid and vax hysteria to be over? What will it take for all these governments to stop their creepy unison implementation of drastic policies using covid and vax as the reason?

I feel like covid is emotionally done for everyday people. They aren't invested in any outcome, just doing what they need to do to live their lives. But the government and media keep pushing hysteria.

I had no real answer for her. Seems like conspiracy theorists have the best answers but I don't want to amplify those and by speaking them give them power.

What's the best theories and approaches people have seen?

[(Anonymous)]

JMG's suggestion of throwing a TV out a window sounds OK to me.

Another Update:

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it's been nearly two months since my flu shot and over a month since my first Shingles shot, and so far everything has been going well enough – except for a patch of skin near my right ankle that has flared up and is now beginning to clam down.

Yes, the patch had been around since just after the Shingles shot. No, it hadn't spread. I didn't say anything about it because it was steady, neither healing nor exploding out over the body. I'm bringing it up now because, in retrospect, I should have probably brought it up a couple weeks ago.

And no, I'm not sure if it's a reaction to the Shingles vaccine alone or if the Pfizer vaccine had a hand in its appearance.

As for Omicron, I'm glad as we're finally getting the adaptation towards spreading and against lethality we've been waiting for. That it came without the expected deadlier form I was fearing is a relief. Two items I'll be watching for, though:

1) Omicron seems to be able to infect those who've already been infected. Wonder if that includes the vaccinated.

2) I've never seen the MSM so desperate to go into panic mode. You'd think that they'd be exuding a cautious optimism, but it's more a silence that wishes to scream.

May post next week, may delay. Depends on how things go, both with me and with everything else.

– Godozo

[(Anonymous)]

it would be funny if it weren't so sad:

Shovelling snow linked to risks including heart attack, paramedics warn after two calls within an hour

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/shovelling-snow-linked-to-risks-including-heart-attack-paramedics-warn-after-two-calls-within-an-hour

[(Anonymous)]

Next they‘ll tell you shovelling snow can cause cancer or heavy menstrual bleeding.

You heard it here first. ;-)

Milkyway

Antibody Specificity

[(Anonymous)]

The second shot of various vaccines dramatically increases antibody reactivity against the original Wuhan strain but does not much increase reactivity against variants, suggesting that boosting increases antibody titer while decreasing the breadth of the antibody response. Definitely shoots holes in the idea of boosting with the same old shots for Omicron.

The flu vaccine updates every year, and the mRNA shots were supposed to be extra-easy to update. Not that I think untested updated boosters are a good idea, but I'm increasingly surprised that it's not happening. With Omicron we might be reaching the point at which the shots are not only dangerous but also completely useless against the virus currently circulating. It's almost like they bought way too many doses and don't want them to go to waste...

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DECREASED BREADTH OF THE ANTIBODY RESPONSE TO THE SPIKE PROTEIN OF SARS-CoV-2 AFTER REPEATED VACCINATION

"Most important, we found a relative reduction in the reactivity of the sera with the Alpha, Delta and Kappa variants, versus the Wuhan one, after the second boosting immunization. These data allow to make a comparison of different vaccines in terms of anti-S antibody generation and cast doubts about the convenience of repeatedly immunizing with the same S protein sequence."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.12.21261952v2

Mark L

Re: Antibody Specificity

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for this, Mark L, it is much appreciated.

[(Anonymous)]

Another massive cloud outage, we had a few this autumn:
https://archive.vn/2PRQX

IT employees are either vaccinated in high numbers or many face an 8 December deadline.

[(Anonymous)]

Dear John Michael Greer and all commenters:

My most sincere and heartfelt thanks for this invaluable forum. Your generosity and thoughtfulness are epic.

In these strange and choppy seas, this forum has been a life raft for me, and I can imagine, for many of you and many readers as well.

Cetiosaurus

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed! This is an island of much needed information, interpretation, and good fellowship for commenters and non-commenters alike.

Cheers all! 🍻

Valerie

Nose bleeds

[(Anonymous)]

Has anyone else been randomly getting nose bleeds over the past 18 months? I sometimes just wake up with a nostril full of blood, or dried blood on my nose or pillow, or just wipe/blow my nose to find it's full of blood. It's really weird, I don't remember it happening before about April last year, or at least not since I was quite young.

It stopped for a while, but I've had it happen 3 times in the past week and can put it down to either:

- Being infected with corona, but not knowing (I have no other symptoms, and took a lateral flow test as I was seeing relatives, but it was negative - I took it after the nose bleeds though, not before! And I've not done one in about 3 months before that.)

- Being around someone who has been recently foxed or boosted (I am unfoxed myself)

- Having worn a mask all day (we have to wear them in the office, but I'm only in twice a week)


It's one of those, or it's the movie trope of my timeline being edited in some way...

Re: Nose bleeds

[revert2mean]

Isn't that meant to be an infallible sign you've been abducted by aliens in the night (and mysteriously returned to your bed by morning)? Except when I claim it's happened, everyone says, "Don't worry, they have no reason to take their own kind ..."

Cosmology & Pandemic: What we can learn from Indigenous People's Responses to the Health Crisis

[(Anonymous)]

Considering how any non-pharmaceutical/Western approaches to addressing Covid are often regarded as "misinformation", some of you might be interested in this set of articles & short videos. What does valuing public health truly mean on a deeper level? What does valuing cultural diversity truly mean when applied to health approaches to address Covid or anything else?

Cosmology & Pandemic: What we can learn from Indigenous People's Responses to the Current Health Crisis:

https://cosmopandemic.esperanzaproject.com/?lang=en

"Indigenous responses to Covid-19 have much to teach the world -- about health and wellness, spirituality and how to care for the planet we live in.

"In this four-part series, we enter thirty diverse original communities from South America, through the eyes of indigenous and local reporters, sharing their stories of resilience and ancient wisdom.

Episode #1: Columbia: The Body as Territory: For Columbia's indigenous peoples, Covid is a logical consequence of modern industrial society's attack on Mother Earth -- of which our own bodies are a part.https://cosmopandemic.esperanzaproject.com/episode-1/?lang=en

Part 1: The Kamentsa Biya: Land Use Planning in Defense of the Sacred: Territorial planning and protection of sacred sites is integrally connected with public health for the Kamentsa. https://www.esperanzaproject.com/2021/native-american-culture/the-kamentsa-biya-land-use-planning-in-defense-of-the-sacred/
Part 2: The Misaks: Balance and Harmony as Medicine: For the Misak people, harmony and balance are so important to health and well-being that they are willing to fight for them. https://www.esperanzaproject.com/2021/native-american-culture/the-misaks-balance-and-harmony-as-medicine/
Part 3: The Arhuacos: A Message from the Mamos, the Prophets of the Sierra Nevada: The Arhuacos have warned of this crisis for generations. Now their spiritual guides say Covid is only the first of four pandemics.https://www.esperanzaproject.com/2021/native-american-culture/the-arhuacos-a-message-from-the-mamos-the-prophets-of-the-sierra-nevada/

Episode #2: Andean Cosmovision: An Ancient Path to Health: Communitarianism based on reciprocity (Ayni) and care for relationships within a context of community life (Ayllu) are at the heart of Andean life -- and health.

Episode #3: Amazonian Wisdom: The Territory as a Healing Source: This beleaguered treasure is the source of many modern medicines, and there are many more to discover. And yet the forest and its peoples fight for their own lives.

Episode #4 Mato Grosso: Diversity of crisis in Brazil: The Bororo people of the Pantanal wetlands, the Xavante of the Cerrado savannas and the Yawalapiti of the Xingu Indigenous Reserve provide a microcosm for Brazil, one of the countries hardest hit by the coronavirus.

About this series: In the absence of any meaningful government intervention or support, indigenous peoples throughout the Americas have confronted the Covid-19 pandemic with resourcefulness, creativity and deep spiritual awareness. At the height of the crisis, we at the Esperanza Project reached into 30 indigenous communities in six South American Countries. Thanks to modern communication technology, we were able to find, empower and work remotely with local and in many cases indigenous teams to tell their stories of resilience and healing."

-beneaththesurface

Vaccination

[(Anonymous)]

In Portugal, nearly 90% of the population vaccinated, the hospitals are overflowing with non-covid non-flu patients. It must be noted that the autumn has been exceptionally bland, in fact worryingly dry and not cold at all.
The government is still only worried about the Coronavírus, and fom the 1st December is requiring the non vax to have test certificates to go to restaurants and gymns. If you want to visit hospitals, care homes or pubs, discos or mass events, you must also present test certificates, regardless of vaccination status (yep!)
My soon (14yo)wanting to go to a restaurant with friends today, got his test to have the certificate. In the restaurant the test was simply not asked for!
Also for the first time my extended family members are expressing doubts conserning the vax, specifically vaccinating the children...

Stealth Version

[(Anonymous)]

I have suspected that the end game here is that the signal becomes barely distinguishable from the noise, and it looks like we are heading in that direction:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/07/scientists-find-stealth-version-of-omicron-not-identifiable-with-pcr-test-covid-variant

Re: Stealth Version

[(Anonymous)]

This reminds me of the warnings about the "symptomless" variant that were doing the rounds a while ago. Imagine being infected with the symptomless variant that the test can't detect. The horror!