Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5
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ecosophia
The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-10 02:48 pm (UTC)Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-10 06:14 pm (UTC)Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-10 09:10 pm (UTC)Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-11 12:43 am (UTC)I think it has something to do with the Age of Aquarius which is an air sign and thus governing the mind, in contrast to the past age where earthly sacrifices were appropriate.
I honestly don't think the Aztec gods to be evil, just very, very intense. I wouldn't worship him until I have relationships with other deities that are known the be more balanced and I become a competent occultists but my sole experience with The Hummingbird of the South was positive and his devotees also were nice people. I am definitely biased though, and I don't recommend anyone to try worship them but being Mexican myself one of my long term goals is bring modern Golden Dawn methods to work with the traditional powers of Mexican spirituality. Though that is going to take me in the very least a decade to start even thinking about it and researching it thoroughly. I think the Mayans were more of interest to notable occultists like Manly P Hall so perhaps that is a better start than the Aztec pantheon.
Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-11 01:24 am (UTC)"American occultism will never come into its own until it ceases to import its systems from Europe and India, but goes back along the lines of its own tradition, picking up the aboriginal contacts, and daring to bend them to its own evolutionary purposes. It must seek the contacts of the Sun Temple of Atlantis through the Maya tradition. Egypt has no message for the United States. Americans can learn esoteric philosophy and science from the Western tradition, just as Europeans can learn them from the Eastern tradition, but the initiatory forces cannot be conveyed across the Atlantic or the Pacific. Some day there will come an American who will pick up the ancient Maya contacts, adapt them to modern needs, and express them in an initiatory ritual which shall be valid for the civilization to which he belongs."
-- Sane Occultism, p. 105
Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-11 01:46 am (UTC)Fascinating quote from Fortune! Do you think that Fortune supposed this hypothetical future American who picks up the ancient Maya contacts would do so by happenstance (more or less), or was she positing an individual already well versed in “imported” esoteric tradition, then adapting it to the aboriginal forces?
Would love your thought on that, thanks!
-balowulf
Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-11 04:47 pm (UTC)Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-11 02:36 am (UTC)My sole experience conveyed something similar that carried two messages that I was able to pick up. The first one was, as honestly I was scared and not sure about what I was doing, that they are not evil, in fact they were very gentle and kind with me even though the experience was strong. The second was that the tradition was dwindling and suffering and that I was welcomed into their world and that they were asking for help somehow but the sense that I got was of a very different kind of Magic so attempting a fusion would take a lot of hard work, but they seemed eager about it in the way they showed me and received what I was doing in the place with the little that I know about magic. Perhaps it is becase the CGD is based in nature.
I don't know why that happened to me of all people. Afterwards I felt embarrassed to think they would harm me or ask for my sacrifice! Myself I am not native mexican in race, more like a mestizo between native mexicans, peruvians, swedish; and spanish and portuguese so perhaps that is why. Somehow I feel that way back I either came here (to mexico) to study their culture, was interested in the culture of the native americans or I did harm and now I am compelled to remediate it, I still don't know which it is but what I know is that I want to do something about it. One thing that spoke to me strongly was a sculptoric piece made by Stanislaw Szukalski called "Promerica". In an interview Szukalski said that his vision was for a new world to spawn out of the conjoint work of the european settlers and the native americans. In the sculpture you can see a priest blessing the blueprints of a young american engineer. Being a mexican occultist and an engineer that lives in the United States it spoke strongly to me and even though Szukalki was disappointed in what he saw in the latter years, I think the sentiment to be worthwhile to continue. I certainly will try!
Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-11 04:52 pm (UTC)That's an extraordinary sculpture, by the way -- I wasn't familiar with Szukalski before now, but I need to remedy that.
Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-11 05:01 pm (UTC)Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-11 07:00 pm (UTC)Hmm, so now I suspect this project of mine will take me much, much more than I considered before.
Oh you are going to like him I suspect. The sculpture was a plan of him to be part of a university tower between Mexico and Texas and he built it in such a way (see the hole in the middle of the backdrop) that with the wind in a particular direction the monument would hum. He was kind of mystical in nature and a little crazy. Towards the end of his life, I believe through his sheer talent, he started to try to piece together language and anything of pictographic value into what he called "Protong" which according to him was proof that the origin of human kind, after the last deluge, originated in Eastern Island. I don't think he was correct but I think he started to sense something old from within human ancient cultures and then applied a monistic view in the way he perceived things. He ended up in 40 years illustrating 42 volumes totaling 25,000 pages with about 14,000 illustrations which he called "witnesses". He was algo a bit of a megalomaniac so he trashed all world history and rewrote it as "Zermatism"
Up until recently very few people knew about him until the documentary came out. Unfortunately very few of his sculptures survive because they got bombed by the Nazis on their assault of Poland, only pictures remain. Your local library might have the book that came out with it Struggle: The Art of Szukalski . It has quite a few pictures of his work and a few comments by him about them.
Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-11 06:36 pm (UTC)Re: Aztec Gods
Date: 2021-09-11 10:59 pm (UTC)First I need to finish the program of magical study that I've already started though! And that's already going to take me a few years. Fortunately, the land I did my practices on reacted surprisingly well to that set of practices, a little spooky, and the native elder there also positively responded to the process. Whatever it is that I may find out will be made available in at least some form. And if by then the internet is still available, I'll be posting things here in my journal :-).