Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5
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ecosophia
The semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2021-09-08 11:13 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 01:21 am (UTC)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wLwxmjrZj8
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Date: 2021-09-09 01:48 am (UTC)Oh and this is from the post and thread that KEK liked, and had all those gets.
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Date: 2021-09-09 02:35 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 07:10 am (UTC)but it ended weeks later also in alternative Romanian press:
It is in Romanian so I linked translation
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ro&u=https://www.activenews.ro/stiri/Se-ridica-marii-duhovnici-de-la-Sfantul-Munte-Athos-VACCINUL-ANTI-COVID-ESTE-O-INSELACIUNE.-Arhimandritul-Partenie-Staretul-Sf.-Manastiri-a-Sfantului-Pavel-Nu-ma-vaccinez-si-nu-dau-binecuvantare-nimanui-pentru-vaccinare-164612&prev=search&pto=aue
Searching for it I saw that Google wouldn't show the result unless I specified the site specifically.
Thanks for making me search for it
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Date: 2021-09-12 09:41 pm (UTC)https://orthochristian.com/136688.html
It says, among other things: "In the same talk, the respected Elder emphasizes that he does not bless anyone to receive the coronavirus vaccine, because it is too much in line with what is written in Revelation 13, which describes the seal that will be required for people to buy or sell, or live an ordinary life.
The Elder notes that this is not exactly the same thing, but the similarities are apparent. It is especially telling, the Elder believes, that the companies that produce the vaccine are exempt from any liability, which is a mockery of the people.
A couple of other related articles from the Orthodox world, if anyone's interested:
https://orthochristian.com/139871.html
choice quote: “They are already saying that the coronavirus will come even stronger in the autumn so they can influence the rest of the people! But all this troubles us and causes us, justifiably of course, to be suspicious. And that is why we see the work of the devil behind all of this,” Fr. Philotheos warns.
“We hope in the enlightenment of God and in the goodwill of many Christians and intelligent people who see this and resist it and sense that something is happening behind it all. And as you can see, many things will be revealed. The grace of God will reveal them.”
“That’s why we are pained and worried to see this situation now, and we implore God’s grace and the Panagia to guard her people, God’s people,” the elder concludes. "
The article also notes: "Several other Athonite elders have made several warnings, including Elder Parthenios, the abbot of St. Paul’s Monastery, Elder Euthymius of the Holy Resurrection Kallyva in Kapsala, who was a disciple of St. Paisios, Elder Gabriel of the Kelli of St. Christodoulos of Patmos, also a spiritual child of St. Paisios, and Elder Paul of Vouleftiria, a doctor of molecular biology and biomedicine." But alas, doesn't have a separate article or quotes for each of those.
And also: https://orthochristian.com/138244.html
This article reports that of the ~2000 monks on Mt. Athos, only 300 requested to be vaccinated, and that Vatopedi monastery "considers the Pfizer vaccine ineffective and “inappropriate” and is conducting its own medical research to provide options."
There seem to be a lot of Orthodox elders in the Greek-speaking world, and on Mt. Athos, willing to say "no" to the covid hype and vaccine push. I wish their counterparts in the English-speaking world were less timid.
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Date: 2021-09-09 02:48 am (UTC)Being under Thot rulership KEK along with other 7 deities is part of Ogdoad and thus of the cosmic order.
People "worshiping" KEK didn't want others to suffer but some rejoiced a bit though when people fell into their own wicked schemes, a bit childish, but arguably within ethical bounds, which is what every fairytale would teach. This is a good incentive for people who are not interested in goodness for the goodness sake.
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Date: 2021-09-09 02:47 am (UTC)"Angered at their defeat in the Nacirman Civil War, some of the followers of the High Priestess Notnilc sold their souls to demons to receive supernatural powers to wage war against their opponents. Lead by the Mad Wizard Sehguh, they waged war against the King in Orange, eventually narrowly defeating him and installing their King Nedib in his place. Now, the demons have come to collect their end of the bargain, by tricking people into taking poison disguised as necessary medicine. Those who resist are forced from their homes by people tricked by malevolent magic into believing all who do not drink the potion are spreading the black death..."
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Date: 2021-09-09 04:20 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-09 03:21 am (UTC)That scene of the play was always so intense whenever I saw it, because all Faustus had to do was walk away, but he just couldn't do it. Do the people who sold their souls have the same option, to just walk away, renounce the deal, and move on?
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Date: 2021-09-09 07:20 pm (UTC)Faustus and the Monkey Trap
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Date: 2021-09-09 03:31 pm (UTC)https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243522&page=2
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Date: 2021-09-09 05:36 pm (UTC)I don't know if you remember our discussions, but I was a left wing activist from the mid 1990s until 2018, and spent the last few years of that getting a front row seat to the total insanity of TDS. I remember asking about the possibility that what I was seeing was being driven at least in part by demonic forces, and you were saying that you strongly doubted it and it was more likely just cognitive dissonance; and that while demons might be involved in individual cases you doubted they were any kind of major factor.
As I wasn't very deep into the occult in those days I took your word for it, and by the time I was deep enough to have a good sense of it I had distanced myself enough from that scene to be unable to tell for sure; and frankly I also think you were right to tell me that a lot people see demons even where there are none and that usually human dysfunction is just that: human. Still, to see you say you now think it possible I was right....
If your hypothesis is accurate, this really reframes a lot of the last five years or so of my life in some very disturbing ways....
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Date: 2021-09-09 09:12 pm (UTC)https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/90391.html
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Date: 2021-09-09 09:57 pm (UTC)1) The Covid hysteria in the form we saw would have been almost impossible without the internet as it exists now, and seems to have been mediated quite strongly through it.
2) A lot of people have pushed the idea of the internet being a good thing in all places and contexts under all circumstances a lot further than makes any kind of sense. This has been especially true since the mid 2000s.
3) A lot of people seem to find that the internet is demonic in various ways, especially where it relates to social media.
4) Given the extremely centralized nature of the internet and internet regulation, it wouldn't be too hard for a demonic entity to push the internet to develop in a particular direction; merely by influencing a relatively small number of people.
6) In many ways it was the rise of social media that set the stage for much of the insanity; as well as the insanity around TDS. The first real social media company, Myspace, appeared out of nowhere, lasted as a major force for 7 years, before it started to lose influence and fade away. This would fit the 7 years of benefit traditionally ascribed to selling your soul.
7) In 2010 around a dozen people who worked on Myspace from the beginning died under very strange circumstances. I don't know if there was news on this, since there was a lot of effort made to hide this, but it freaked out a lot of us working there; this would also fit the dragged screaming offstage when those 7 years are up.
8) A lot of people who worked at Myspace from 2003-2010 (including myself), the period when it was founded through to when it began to lose influence, experienced incredibly awful working conditions and more than one of my former colleagues has said that if they were sent to hell, they wouldn't be surprised if it meant going back to working there. This could be any number of things, but in light of the above suggests intense demonic activities.
9) Programmers tend to be disproportionately atheists, and in 2003, when these programmers would have sold their souls based on the above, the New Atheist Movement was going strong; and I've seen lots of evidence that people in that group will call upon demons and make deals for their souls solely to prove they don't believe in any of it.
10) All of which suggests that the modern internet was created by demons, using a group of programmers who sold their soul in 2003, probably for wealth and influence; which could suggest that these demonic forces were planning this attack for quite a while...
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Date: 2021-09-09 11:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-10 01:35 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-11 02:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-10 10:43 am (UTC)Another rabbit hole to wander down as far as the Internet's origins goes, is to start reading up on Jacques Vallee and his books.
Umber Intoxicated Lorax
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Date: 2021-09-10 04:22 pm (UTC)As most of dystopias are happening now I think and AI is going under the radar pretty well.
(Need to make a molecule? Ask this AI for instructions)
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-03977-w
What do you think do they employ this in virology and making artificial proteins with certain name of a dog from Tom&Jerry, take a guess?
Can they feed all the viruses and data to AI, take a guess?
The most probable thing for an AI is to be possessed by a daemon because it lacks the hearth and they work alike just that the daemon is better and older. People sensed this that's why all the stories about AI are like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_takeover
AI lack self awareness and from that humor and a hearth and that's why they are very dangerous
https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist
AI controls now:
- social media,
- search results,
- social credits,
-etc
Internet was ugly since the corporate took over in early 2000s but since the advent of AI is strongly weaponized.
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Date: 2021-09-10 10:17 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-11 11:00 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-10 01:47 am (UTC)Would the arguments that the vaccine is very effective and very safe, and that therefore the pandemic is among the unvaccinated, who need to take the vaccine in order to protect the vaccinated, be another good example?
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Date: 2021-09-10 03:38 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-09-12 05:49 pm (UTC)This is not to say there is no evidence of serious material plane issues with the vaccines, but it's hard to tell just how bad they are yet, and a lot of otherwise calm and rational people jumped straight into total apocalypse scenarios based upon very little evidence. (The irony is that it's increasingly looking plausible that they are right; but we can't know if they are just yet)