Magic Monday

[ecosophia]

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you to both of you for this. Yes, I would say I'm caught somewhere in between the Egyptian pantheon (Bast, I feel, has put more than an inkling of synchronicity and perhaps - though I'm not certain - outright communication to me) and the Celtic (Brigid has also - I would say "warmed my heart" is the best way to put it). Odin has been lurking in the corners of my mind as well, to round it out.

So I think I will cultivate some gentle personal connections, while grounding in the vague earthy forms for the SOP, and we'll see where it goes.

Anonymous: that's a very interesting data point about Christ. I was very into christian mysticism, poured my heart into it, and found a pile of dead dry bones everywhere I looked, spiritually speaking. It really hurt, in a way, to put so much into that relationship and to feel, almost abandoned, really. Plus not seeing any real genuine change or benefit from religion in other's lives who supposedly followed said deity, sort of put the final touches on it for me. I still think there's a lot of horrible things done under some force motivating people in the name of Jesus, and while I can certainly make room for the fact that there might be some people who have a positive experience with that relationship, I've seen a lot of people claiming that who end up supporting some pretty harrowing things. Granted, you can't always judge a god by their followers, but I do sort of expect a deity to provide some genuinely positive things on the larger average than negative, through people who supposedly follow him/her. So yeah, "way over his head" might be one explanation for it. Your recollection has helped me let go of some of my anger towards that deity, which is definitely a good start. I still don't think I really want the monotheistic thing, at all, though, so I'm not sure there's any way back to anything more than a willingness to let it go at this point.

Hmm, interesting thought though. Maybe when Jesus said "go into all the world.." he wasn't talking about spreading word of him, but rather of the essence of his teaching - that "Divine Spark is within you" thing, and people just got it all mixed up with the messenger. If I got deified under those circumstances I'd probably be way over my head too.

[robertmathiesen]

For whatever it might be worth, when Jesus said that, according to the Gospels only the apostles were present. One might well ask oneself whether it was only the eleven remaining apostles who were commanded to do that, and none others -- and thus not all his followers down through the ages. The more usual interpretation, obviously, served the secular interests of the early church.

[brenainn]

Another possibility: the command was to make disciples of all nations but I'm guessing that the Greek could probably also mean to make disciples in all nations. The Gospels and the rest of the NT are pretty clear that only certain individuals are called to Christ (the Elect). Perhaps the mission isn't to convert the Pagans but simply to find those that are specifically called to follow Christ? That idea occurred to me a few days ago, and the kind evangelization that it might entail might not be much different than being good Christians who welcome newcomers and inquirers.

[brenainn]

For what it is worth, I have a mixed pantheon at this point. I have a henotheistic devotion to Christ (as in, he's my first and primary deity) but I also offer worship (in the form of dulia) to Mithras, Canaanite and wider Levantine deities, and to a god that seems to have found me as he was residing in an African wooden figurine that I acquired years ago.

On the subject of the divinity of Christ, one of the oldest Christological statements comes from St. Paul's letter to the Romans, "Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God...the gospel about his Son, descended from David according to the flesh, but established as Son of God in power according to the spirit of holiness through resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord" (Romans 1:1, 2-3). The most natural reading of this is that Jesus was appointed Messiah and adopted as the Son of YHWH following his resurrection. Other statements by St. Paul that indicate the preexistence of Jesus are, if certain scholars are to be believed, best understood as an Angelic Christology. That is, Jesus was the incarnation of a very high ranking angel, who acted as the prophet of his Father God and then was adopted as his son and a god following his death.

[(Anonymous)]

You might take a look at the writings (both recent and older,) of Paul Kingsnorth. https://paulkingsnorth.substack.com/ He is English, currently living in Ireland. He very recently became a Christian, he was more or less summoned to that belief to hear him tell it. Interesting and provocative stuff, and he is a fantastic writer with a thoughtful commentariat.