Magic Monday
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:25 am (UTC)Ignorant Mage
Date: 2021-05-31 02:12 pm (UTC)I would agree that you need a broad range of knowledge to understand how things work.
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:00 am (UTC)1) Can it be used to address an addiction? If so, what would you recommend? My addiction is a porn addiction, if that matters.
2) Do you have advice for dealing with the aftermath of growing up with parents who strongly expressed the devouring mother archetype? I'll be moving out in a little over a month, and intend to cut ties as much as possible; I'm doing some journaling, but I'm also hoping there's more I can do, since it's currently a very slow and painful process.
3) My parents are filthy rich and have used money as a way to control me; and one result is that they left me with a pathological fear of being poor. I'm quite sure that it will go away on its own once I'm living on my own and clearly able to get by on a fraction of what I currently subconsciously think I need, but do you have any advice on how to get over this fear?
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:12 am (UTC)2) The essential trick is to remember that your parents are not the archetype. They're just a couple of aging people with psychological hangups. The archetype, the thing that gives them power in your emotional life, is internal to you and you can confront it in yourself without having to mess with them.
3) The only cure I know of for that fear is to become poor and discover that it's not a problem. It's like losing a job -- everyone I know who was terrified about losing a job got over it once that happened and they found another one. "Plunge thee into the maelstrom of life!" That's Thor's advice, and it's worth taking. ;-)
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Date: 2021-05-31 09:41 am (UTC)I don't want to glamorize being poor, but it can be a very good teacher on how to be a strong individual that knows how to work their way out of a tough situation. A calm sea never made good sailors. You can usually tell when someone has come from a poor background, they are interesting people. They aren't just another identical person that comes out of a little box, or plastic people as Frank Zappa called them. They have had to face adverse times and have also figure out how to overcome them. In over coming issues of lacking they become stronger people. It is like building muscle, you have to damage it and then repair it better.
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Date: 2021-05-31 06:45 pm (UTC)Working man
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Date: 2021-05-31 07:01 pm (UTC)b) I'm currently working through the CGD's Ovate Grade. I'll keep up with the practices, and tackle the addiction later then!
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Date: 2021-05-31 08:20 pm (UTC)1b) That's a good plan.
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:25 am (UTC)How do you go about making hostile aspects into a source of strength?
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Date: 2021-05-31 05:06 am (UTC)Does my younger sister then have the kind of chart which suggests a world changing individual? Sun in Leo, squaring Jupiter, Moon, and Saturn in Taurus; Mars in Scorpio squaring all of the above; and Uranus in Aquarius finishing a grand cross with Saturn and the Moon. And all of them are angular....
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Date: 2021-05-31 06:03 pm (UTC)What do you think about Sepharial's Manual of Astrology?
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:11 am (UTC)Is there a difference between hypnosis and trance?
Are they connected to meditation?
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:20 am (UTC)Meditation is the opposite of trance. Trance is a lowering of the level of consciousness; meditation raises the level of consciousness. It makes you more awake, aware, and reflective, where trance makes you less of each of these things.
Thank you!
Date: 2021-05-31 04:15 am (UTC)I was even amazed to see it reflected in the homily I heard on Sunday morning. Even in a sacramental, liturgical church like the Catholic Church, the priest’s homily was about our individual relationship with the Holy Trinity and how we can develop it as individuals. I wouldn’t be surprised if many thousands of other liturgical Christians were hearing similar “tamanousian-influenced” homilies about the same time as me.
I can even apply it to myself, and can now see how I’ve been working on my own “Christian vision quest” for the past 20 years or so. And this is probably the most helpful part for me. Ever since accepting a basic polytheism and learning about the occult, I’ve felt pulled in multiple directions. It was disorienting at first but now I realize that it has been part of this tamanousian process of developing a very individualized personal spiritual relationship.
So, I want to offer a heartfelt thanks for your book! For many reasons, I got a lot out of it. It was very helpful in understanding the current political situation and how things might play out in the coming years. But perhaps the most lasting impact your book will have on me is how its given me an unexpected direction as I walk my spiritual path. Thank you!
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:21 am (UTC)Re: Thank you!
Date: 2021-05-31 01:32 pm (UTC)Our priest preached on that this past weekend also. About how *even though we're Orthodox* and we have the sacraments and we approach things differently... everybody needs to have that personal-relationship-with-Christ, and be individually "born again" (in this context "No, you can't just rely on your baptism and then ignore everything else for the rest of your life").
Perhaps there was something particularly in the air this week...
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:16 am (UTC)2. Boy, howdy, I’ve just found a very big hole in my religious education – I don’t know much of anything about prayer. When a Pagan Prays by Nimue Brown looks hopeful, but I just started it. Might you say a few words about prayer for Druids, and/or suggest a title or two?
3. Did you pen anything about the well or fountain of Galabes and why it is important, or could you point me to a good start? Aside from our good friend Geoffrey, it seems largely overlooked… though The Holy Wells of Wales (Cardiff: University of Wales Press, 1954) is still available…
Many thanks.
Rhydlyd
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:25 am (UTC)2) Prayer is simple. Talk to a god the way you would talk to a wise and powerful elder. Then listen. Don't do the cringing, on-your-knees, I'm-so-pathetic sort of thing -- I suspect a lot of gods sympathize with God in Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "Oh, don't grovel! If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people groveling."
3) Have you read The Quest for Merlin by Nikolai Tolstoy?
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:35 am (UTC)2. OK, and chortle.
3. Nope. Duly noted
Thanks!
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Date: 2021-06-01 12:20 am (UTC)2) "And stop apologizing. Every time I try to talk to someone it's 'sorry this' and 'forgive me that' and 'I'm not worthy'. What are you doing now?" [Arthur: I'm averting my eyes, O Lord.] "Well, don't!"
A wise and powerful elder generally doesn't like people making a big deal of "Look at ME! I'm so HUMBLE!" instead of listening to what they have to say.
--Taupe O. Raccoon
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:27 am (UTC)And... Is there similarity to the cosmology of The Cosmic Doctrine, or am I seeing a face on Barsoom?
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:33 am (UTC)Maybe you're seeing Dion Fortune's face on Barsoom!
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Date: 2021-05-31 05:15 pm (UTC)For those already familiar with Fludd, or who are comfortable enough with Fludd's Latin to get your own start, there's probably not a lot here, apart from exceptionally crisp reproductions of the plates. But for everyone else, it might be worth considering.
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Date: 2021-05-31 08:22 pm (UTC)There's also Joscelyn Godwin's Robert Fludd: Hermetic Philosopher and Surveyor of Two Worlds published by Phanes Press in 1991. I don't know whether this is just an earlier edition of the book barefootwisdom mentioned, or a different work altogether.
Tai chi and sop
Date: 2021-05-31 04:34 am (UTC)I have a friend contemplating starting the SOP who has done tai chi for a while, though not in the last 14 months. I know they don't mix, so is it safe for him to start the SOP without the tai chi, and are there any warning signs to look out for?
Thanks
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:35 am (UTC)While I was meditating I stumbled into a thread that took me a little bit too far and got some intense visuals, I got spooked and jolted back to the awareness of my body. I felt I was loosing it in a way, not that I would slip and die accidentally but it felt I would, or something would happen. Do you know what happened? I am not even sure on the last links that I was meditating on.
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:53 am (UTC)Did you see that The Black Vault released a lot of declassified documents on UFO's just recently? Since you've written about the phenomenon I thought you'd find it interesting.
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Date: 2021-05-31 05:27 am (UTC)2) Yep. It's going to take some serious study and assessment.
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Date: 2021-06-01 01:27 am (UTC)What sort of things can be done when one gets used to perceiving the astral plane clearly?
I've been giving free Tarot readings on my journal with good results, but doing them at a distance I can tell there is a slight difference so it occurred to me to do something similar to the method you gave in your book Atlantis but instead of visiting a place in the distant past people would visit my imaginal divining room, shuffle the cards there and record the time they did for me to go and pick up later. Do you see any problem with doing something like that? I tried it once with someone that does a regular banishing ritual but I am not sure if there are some other astral cleanliness considerations that I should take.
I've realized that my generation has been systematically prevented from growing up for the interests of other people. Do you know of some sort of old-fashioned manual or similar on how to become an adult?
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Date: 2021-06-01 06:57 am (UTC)I don't know of any such book. Most of the real adults whom I know got there by never avoiding the hard work they had to do in order to meet whatever hard challenges--there are always hard challenges!--life happened to throw at them. It's OK to fear hard challenges, but not to run away from them or ignore them. Being an adult is a highly active and foresightful kind of life, not a passive one or a lazy one. A life without hard challenges keeps one from becoming an adult. You can get tired of challenges, and rest from the labor of meeting them for a while; but then it's always "back to the kitchen sink and wash up the dirty dishes"!
For whatever it may be worth, I'm a member of the so-called Silent Generation. Lots and lots of my generation never really became adults, either, though I have the distinct impression that the percentage of such people has somewhat increased.
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Date: 2021-06-02 12:37 am (UTC)Believe me, the percentage has increased dramatically, at least in my circles and my generation (I'm 27) and I think it is due in part because big corp benefits from keeping them that way. Have you ever been or seen a tech company? It's like a playground, and those are the people in charge of a big part of our society.
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Date: 2021-06-02 10:33 am (UTC)My wife and I were given a full behind-the-scenes tour of Pixar by a friend of hers, back in the days when "Finding Nemo" was being put together, i.e., when Pixar still occupied the old Heinz factory in Emeryville. I just thought, at the time, that it was simply an off-beat environment designed to foster artistic creativity. In retrospect, it was much more than that. The most interesting feature was Steve Jobs' office, which was austere to the point of being a monk's cell, all done "down" (not "up"!) in black, and which stood in very striking contrast to everything else in the building.
OCD
Date: 2021-05-31 04:40 am (UTC)Re: OCD
Date: 2021-05-31 04:45 am (UTC)Re: OCD
Date: 2021-05-31 07:57 pm (UTC)The hero path, so deeply grounded in body and experience, tends to express itself along a spectrum that includes both heroism and compulsive craving. Those are both expressions of deep grounding, presence, and longing to make manifest in the physical plane. Their profound difference in how they affect our lives comes from whether their expression of the hero path is balanced or imbalanced. Oddly, obsessive-compulsive disorder is a good indicator that one is very much traveling along the hero path, although I know that it feels much more like stumbling in place.
Resolving the imbalances within ourselves is not the easiest of challenges, regardless of which path you find yourself to be on, but it is extraordinarily rewarding. Contemplating those imbalances, their causes, their protective roles, how they alter the rhythm of our lives and why, and their often amusing effects is the miraculous solvent that can unexpectedly resolve imbalance. Of course, approaching contemplation obsessively is unlikely to ever weaken obsession’s hold! Letting yourself feel and experience and imagine and even create the condition, in other words playing with it, has more of the real flavor of contemplation about it.
Whichever parents, teachers, siblings, karma etc. helped to plant and nurture the imbalances within you were giving you a mighty thrust block to play with. Who knows what direction exploring them could launch you in? Or, perhaps, if you yourself take up caring for and nurturing those discarded imbalances that were planted within you, they may one night grow up into a mighty beanstalk, leading you to treasures and adventures as yet unimagined.
Until we can learn to look directly in the eye of the thing we have been resisting and fighting against, appreciating every nuance and facet of it, all its strengths and weaknesses, we are unlikely to be freed of its controlling influence. Once we can truly befriend our nemesis, laughing with it at its unpredictable absurdity and weeping with it at its pain and grief, often we no longer want to be rid of it. Somehow, embracing all that imbalanced, destabilizing disorder we find within ourselves transforms it into an irreplaceable gift we had so-long been overlooking.
John Michael seems to dance along miraculously gracefully with his Asperger’s, despite its reputation for having two left feet. Be gentle with yourself and your "disorder" — you two are traveling together along this path for some reason. I wonder what that might be?
— Christophe
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Date: 2021-05-31 04:54 am (UTC)The conversation the last two weeks about not doing the LBRP in a forest got me thinking about the practical ethics of daily practice. (I'm just finishing up LRM, and as the world opens back up I'll presumably find myself staying places other than home from time to time.) Are there other situations you would avoid doing a daily practice that involved the LBRP? I assume hotels are fine? What about a friend's house? (Ask them first?)
If you're in a situation where the LBRP is inappropriate (say, camping in a forest), what would you do for daily practice during that time?
Thanks!
-Peter
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Date: 2021-05-31 10:36 pm (UTC)Typical astral parasites feed on imbalance and excrete even more imbalance. Given how balanced we start out, they would be terribly self-limiting if they couldn't sneak in other critters which feed on our natural balance while excreting imbalance for the astral parasites to feed on. Those other critters are your typical etheric parasites.
Most etheric parasites get dragged in by a hungry astral parasite and don't tend to stick around long after their protector gets booted out. So, working on either kind of parasite will end up resolving most of the etheric ones, at least temporarily. Unfortunately, if you leave the astral ones in place, they will attract new etheric ones to satisfy their craving for imbalance. Naturally, resolving the astral ones is more challenging than removing the etheric ones, but much more rebalancing in the long run.
The etheric and astral bodies overlay closely to the physical body in most waking states, so working out their imbalances will usually occur close to where the physical symptoms are in your physical body. But sometimes they just throw you for a loop! Like medical diagnosis, etheric diagnosis is more an art than a science. Always seek out a gifted practitioner with happy, healthy clients.
All parasites feed on one of your chakras (the points where your various bodies pass energy back and forth,) but they can on occasion do that from pretty far by using feeding tubes, just as they can deposit imbalance far from their actual attachment site. With cold feet, looking to the minor chakras of the thymus or the feet or to the major chakra of the heart seems reasonable. Once you know where the parasites are feeding from, you'll be that much closer to chasing them out the door. Before you go to bed, you can ask your etheric body to tell you through dream which chakra the parasite is feeding on. Writing your dreams in a journal can seriously help you to make sense of the imbalance and why you have it.
There are also other, rarer astral and etheric entities as well, but they don't tend to cause specific physical symptoms. Instead, their imbalances tend to manifest as personality, disposition, or energy disorders. So, count your blessings, because those are much harder to deal with than run-of-the-mill parasites!
— Christophe
Jesus, Mary and an ancient tradition
Date: 2021-05-31 06:33 am (UTC)Over the years you made several comments about an ancient tradition that consisted of arranging marriages so as to increase the psychic powers of the offsprings. It appears that the timing of the marriage and the period of birth of the offsprings were also of importance in that respect.
(1) If the above is more or less correct, could it be that the birth of Jesus Christ was arranged in such a manner?
(2) And could it be that the persistent rumours of Jesus having offsprings that subsequently intermarried within european nobility with similar aims also be based on historical facts?
(3) Do you happen to know of any valid works on the above?
(4) Finally, some time ago, I came across a TV documentary that described an ancient Indian tradtition that went along very similar lines. Any thoughts?
I thank you in advance for your comments.
Regards
Re: Jesus, Mary and an ancient tradition
Date: 2021-05-31 05:55 pm (UTC)2) Those persistent rumors were manufactured in the very late 20th century by specific, readily identifiable people, who were riffing off Pierre Plantard's notorious "Prieure de Sion" hoax. (There's a nice summary of the hoax here.)
3) None that I'd consider reliable.
4) You'd have to ask someone with a background in Indian spirituality, which I don't have. The claim in some British occult circles is that there was such a tradition in very ancient times in a land area that drowned at the end of the last ice age, that survivors of the Sacred Clan (the group thus inbred) reached safety in Britain, and that's why the Celts have family lines in which "second sight" is common. Several attempts to do the same thing in modern times have taken place, without noticeable results; if that approach works, it probably takes centuries of careful breeding of precisely chosen bloodlines.
Re: Jesus, Mary and an ancient tradition
Date: 2021-05-31 10:10 pm (UTC)Rita
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Date: 2021-05-31 07:27 pm (UTC)Re: Jesus, Mary and an ancient tradition
Date: 2021-05-31 08:32 pm (UTC)I suppose that this is the usual situation in any lineage that has amassed a lot of wealth and status over the centuries: it soon becomes a lineage of rogues, scoundrels and poltroons, and loses whatever nobility and wisdom its founder may once have had. Lord Acton's dictum and all that ...
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Date: 2021-05-31 10:28 pm (UTC)Meditation, Engagement, Ego, Guides and Astrology
Date: 2021-05-31 06:51 am (UTC)2) I do not know if I should engage with the Neopagan (Magic Resistance-y) circles I run in when they send off another list of things that we shouldn't say, do, or work with. For instance, they refer to ceremonial magic, particularly that of Crowley, as "ceremonial magickkk". Also that the Golden Dawn system shouldn't be used because it's racist, anti-Semitic, and created by rich people. Do I argue with them, or let them go into their own tailspins?
3) I hear the warning a lot that magic users, and people in general, should remember that they aren't special, and they should watch out for feeling like they're too capable or special, because if we're not careful, we'll become...disgusting, entitled, useless. While I understand that there is certainly the possibility of overestimating one's abilities, isn't it possible to go the other direction?
4) Can one have guides in different parts of traveling? For instance, when I put myself into the Tunnels, there is a weasel who guides me, while in other places, I am aided and guided by Pete (a grey horse), or the EarthThark.
5) What are preferable books to use in order to interpret one's natal chart? Most online sources seem to be extremely frothy in nature, and I am unsure how much to take seriously from them.
Re: Meditation, Engagement, Ego, Guides and Astrology
Date: 2021-05-31 06:05 pm (UTC)2) Oh, how special. ;-P The people who make those claims are either ignorant or lying, and I don't recommend engaging with them; those claims are good examplez of one of the less edifying traits of today's popular culture, the seething hatred of the lazy and incompetent for those who are willing to go their own way, work hard, and accomplish something significant with their lives. That said, there's a silver lining -- if they shun ceremonial magic, that leaves the potent traditional lore for those who have a clue.
3) Of course. The opposite of one bad idea is almost always another bad idea.
4) That's quite normal.
5) If you can get an old (pre-1980) copy of Llewellyn George's A-Z Horoscope Maker and Delineator, that's the one I recommend. (It's long out of copyright, btw, so some enterprising publisher could do worse than to reissue it...)
Re: Meditation, Engagement, Ego, Guides and Astrology
Date: 2021-05-31 07:07 pm (UTC)Teal Comatose Kumquat
Re: Meditation, Engagement, Ego, Guides and Astrology
Date: 2021-05-31 08:20 pm (UTC)I found a scanned copy of the A-Z Horoscope Maker and Delineator online but there's a question that's been bothering me. Given the planets that have been discovered since it was written and are now active, how do we account for those differences?
Are the old ways still effective and accurate?
Is it a case of lean it as given and then learn to include the newer planets?
Thanks
Re: Meditation, Engagement, Ego, Guides and Astrology
Date: 2021-05-31 08:22 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-05-31 08:13 am (UTC)1. In the first post you say to put a chair in the area of the Sphere of Protection and the reason will be returned to later, but it's not mentioned again. What did you mean to say about that?
2. Does it make any difference what direction you face to meditate?
3. I learned a controlle breathing pattern that is six seconds in, six seconds out, with no breath hold. Would that have a different effect to fourfold breath?
4. How spcific is the palms on thighs position? For example would resting the outside of the forearms and hands on the thighs, or letting the hands overhang beween the legs make a difference?
5. Would it matter if the seat was a bit low so your knees were slightly above your hips? I can raise it up with pillows easily enough, but am curious whether it would matter.
6. What were some of the first subjects you meditated on? Are there any you particularly recommend as places to start? Conversely are there some subjects that won't make much sense until you've done other things first?
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Date: 2021-05-31 06:08 pm (UTC)2) Some people find facing east useful.
3) Yes, it's different. Try the fourfold breath and see what results you get.
4) Yes, it makes a difference. Try it the way the instructions tell you.
5) Yes, it matters. I really don't put in those details on a whim, you know!
6) My first meditations were on the knowledge lectures of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, as given in Regardie's book The Golden Dawn. As for where you should start, why, it depends on what interests you.
CGD Druid Pathworkings
Date: 2021-05-31 08:42 am (UTC)Is there something I should be looking for experientially when I finally get to the grove of Spirit? I'm realizing I picked up the bad habit towards the end of the Bardic grade of following the path until something like "It's been awhile, I feel like finding the grove now" popped up in the back of my head and near instantly there would be the gate into the grove. I'm afraid I'm going to dutifully wander about on the path a bit the first time and then second time decide it's time to check the box and get to Spirit without knowing whether or not I made the connection to Spirit which the book says is the point of the pathworking.
For that matter, should I have noticed something connecting during the bardic pathworkings? I did all of them as assigned, but I can't point to anything in particular clicking. Not sure if I'm focusing too much on checking the boxes, or if I just have the magical senses of a brick.
Also, if one is interested in exploring pathworking further, how does the CGD handle pathworkings on concepts other than the Tree of Life or Elements? Should that involve the groves or would it be more prudent to just imagine a trilithon above my physical altar with a drape of appropriate color and symbol call/test a guide and step through? Is the calling of an element integral to CGD pathworking in general or only done to relate to the groves? Just trying to figure out where the wires are and which not to cross.
Re: CGD Druid Pathworkings
Date: 2021-05-31 06:19 pm (UTC)2) And if you do that, you may be surprised at the results. I mean that quite seriously. Pathworking is as much a way of creating patterns on the astral as it is of experiencing patterns that already exist.
3) Don't worry about it. A lot of times it takes months or years before you can look back and see the effect such things have.
4) At that point you're on your own. Experiment and see what works for you!
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Date: 2021-05-31 08:58 am (UTC)I’ve seen you say to others in a few posts that serious magical practice will bring up unresolved karmic issues rather quickly. If there’s a particular instance of unresolved karma you’re aware you have from a past life, and nothing in your present life seems to be pushing you (or even allowing you) to resolve it, is magical practice the only way to make sure it does become available to deal with? And if so, which magical practices would they be (even if I have to gradually work up to them)?
Thanks.
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Date: 2021-05-31 05:38 pm (UTC)It definitely feels like the second option, because I've felt the presence of this karma for the best part of a decade (and I'm young, so that's almost half my life so far), but it feels like circumstances have kept me trapped in a place where I can't resolve it. Like you said, it's not easy to deal with without outside help - in fact, I don't actually think that would be possible at all, considering the karma in question is specifically to do with another person.
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Date: 2021-05-31 09:34 am (UTC)I noticed over time that I was pretty sensitive to people's energy. If I spend some time with someone, their image and the feeling they give off crops up in my mind later and that can happen for some time. It can be annoying if there's a living arrangement involved, with, for instance, the arrival of a new roomate... Do you know of anything that could help to manage that kind of sensitivity to people ?
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Date: 2021-05-31 06:23 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-05-31 07:49 pm (UTC)When their image-feeling (This is sometimes called a Persona) appears in your mind, try putting your attention on it, then consciously allow it to fade. This same technique is used in the SoP, so that should be good practice.
Cabbalistic cross
Date: 2021-05-31 09:38 am (UTC)When I am doing the Cabbalistic Cross and am imagining myself growing to the immense size of Adam Kadmon am I engaging in a form of astral projection?
Should I be expecting to eventually be able to see into the apartments upstairs and should I be literally seeing the surface of the moon etc? I have been doing it for 6 months now and it still feels mostly like it is “just” in my imagination...
Many thanks
Re: Cabbalistic cross
Date: 2021-05-31 06:23 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-05-31 09:53 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-05-31 06:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-05-31 08:00 pm (UTC)While I am not a proper ceremonial magician, I did spend some time studying the Cabala and spent some time discussing something similar to this with a Rabbi. The acronyms were chosen as much for sound as for their meaning. Secondly, many of the expansions are more theoretical than actual; they usually encapsulate parts of the meaning but aren't identical, and sometimes not even comparable.
Most of the formulae feel very different when used alone versus expanded. ARARITA is the only one I know of that seems to benefit from the expansion. AMEN & AGLA most emphatically aren't.
To quote Rabbi Weisse: When somebody says that a certain word actually stands for this or that, smile and walk away slowly; at least if their tongue isn't firmly in their cheek.
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Date: 2021-06-01 01:27 am (UTC)These are probably the same kind of people that put "Répondez s'il vous plaît" on their invitations, and usually misspell the first word as "Respondez". :D
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that a Word of Power like AGLA that has been used in that form for centuries is a meaningful word in and of itself. It's nice to know where it comes from, but actually using the full phrase in practice strikes me as silly as insisting on saying "radio detecting and ranging" instead of "radar", or "self-contained underwater breathing apparatus diver" for "scuba diver".
Taupe O. Raccoon
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Date: 2021-05-31 10:00 am (UTC)Thank you again for reassuring me that if I stuck with the MP exercise, I'd deal with the waves of heat I was experiencing. They got worse for3-4 days after I posted two weeks ago, and then gradually better. What I finally remembered is the comments here about polyester fleece trapping in the etheric body and I was wearing a fleece jacket while doing the MP. I switched to all cotton clothing and not only had better results during the practice but also one night of relief from the heat wave. (It came back again but less severe each night and last night it was gone again.)
I'm so conditioned by a world that hits me over the head with actions and results that its been interesting have to really pay attention to subtle changes during this whole period. Recording the experience has been so essential too.
This experience has also made me wonder about the impact of coffee on magical practices. I feel like I'm getting the message to cut back on it. What kind of impact does coffee have in this work? Is it considering a mind-altering substance?
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Date: 2021-05-31 06:38 pm (UTC)2) Coffee is indeed a mind-altering substance. It's fairly mild as such things go, but if you get the sense that you're using too much of it, consider cutting back. If you've become accustomed to the caffeine, you might try tea -- that's very widely used among people and cultures that do a lot of meditation and spiritual practice. One magical lodge ritual from the mid-20th century I have assigns the officer in charge of the element of water the task of making tea for everyone after the lodge meeting's over! Yes, it's from England -- why do you ask? ;-)
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Date: 2021-05-31 11:50 pm (UTC)2) Over the last month of doing the MP first expansion I've become more and more awake/aware. Hard to describe but I have a feeling you know what I mean ;-)
I've been noting in my journal that one of my habitual ways of being is to get myself revved up with a certain level of anxiety in order to take action. I can tell this is a remnant of public schooling and the constant atmosphere of both boredom and anxiety occurring at the same time. Being aware of this state of being I can choose to drop it and see what is like to be with what and who is around me instead.
It's been an interesting journey the past 8 months doing LRM. I'm experiencing things in my internal world that I've never heard described anywhere out in the common self improvement literature. I'm curious for what comes next.
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Date: 2021-05-31 07:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2021-05-31 10:08 am (UTC)2. Do you, or anyone else, know where I might be able to buy large prints or posters of the types of images you use for Magic Mondays, like the Robert Fludd images? I'd love to have some of these for the walls of my room.
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Date: 2021-05-31 06:39 pm (UTC)2) I wish I did. Anyone else?
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Date: 2021-06-01 01:01 am (UTC)Jon
tangerine tangential cactus
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Date: 2021-05-31 10:15 am (UTC)Couple years back if someone would have suggest to me to draw figure mid-air and imagine color i would have suggest they wear a straight-jacket. Now i'm doing it everyday and i'm glad i do.
Many thanks for the magical concept you have introduced to me and for this space, they have changed my life in very unexpected way.
I've been praticing SoP, the version presented on this site, for about 7 months now, i bought DMH and just started praticing ogham and discursive meditation. For my first question, i've had pain in my left leg right below the knee while doing SoP, i eliminate all others options i can think of, it really seem SoP is the cause of it somehow. Flare up during the exercise and slowly disappear to nothing half an hour or so after. The stronger the SoP, the stronger the pain to the point i stop doing it for the last couple days. I try to think my way through this one but im stuck on what it's mean or what i should do.
For my next question, i realize that doing SoP in a forest is very different that from my appartement. The last stage i can't push the light very far, its stay close to my body and walled from going further. My reflection on it seem to point to the facts that i expect SoP to be stronger in the forest. I try it at home
and SoP seem to be lot stronger when i expect it to be, but there is more to it than that, but i can't seem to figure out what is it.
Forgive my english as its not my native language and if these question has been asked and answer before i couldn't find them.
Thanks for any advice.
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Date: 2021-05-31 06:41 pm (UTC)2) Good! Keep practicing and pay attention to the differences in how strong the energies feel and how far they reach. That's part of the process of awakening your inner senses.
Jean Dubuis
Date: 2021-05-31 10:20 am (UTC)Re: Jean Dubuis
Date: 2021-05-31 06:43 pm (UTC)