αποῥαφανιδωσις
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But I have a new favorite example, courtesy of James Davidson's Courtesans and Fishcakes, a history of Athenian passions. Think of ancient Greece, and what comes first to mind? White marble temples gleaming in the Mediterranean sun, the robust poetry of Homer, the origins of philosophy and formal mathematics?
Radishes. Radishes, more to the point, used in a very undignified way.
Under Athenian law, a man who caught another man having sex with his wife or his concubine -- male or female -- had the right to kill the adulterer on the spot. This draconian law -- literally Draconian, as it was part of the early Athenian law code established by Draco in the 7th century BC -- was almost never enforced. Normally the aggrieved husband was satisfied with a whopping fine, but there was another option if the guy caught in flagrante didn't have the money. It was called αποῥαφανιδωσις, aporhaphanidosis, which can be translated quite precisely as "enradishment."

The sources I was able to find on enradishment don't mention who first came up with this idea, nor do they mention whether the radish was generally peeled or not -- I suspect it was, and given that ancient Greek radishes were apparently quite hot, I suspect this was the point of the exercise. Nor have I been able to find out how often it happened. Greek writers, including the comic playwright Aristophanes, mention it, and the scholiasts who dutifully annotated the classic Greek texts in Hellenistic and Roman times explained what those mentions meant. Catullus, the bad boy of Roman poetry, also threatened to enradish one of his friends if the friend in question messed with Catullus' boy-toy, but then Catullus was as erudite as he was scatological and probably got the idea from Greek literature.
Two final notes before you run for the brain bleach. First, the past really is a foreign country; they do things differently there -- including things with radishes. Second, as a longtime fan of well-chosen euphemisms, it occurs to me that the verb "to enradish" deserves modern use. I'm pleased to say that my wife is a pioneer here; on learning that the teachers' union across the river in Providence just lost a lawsuit in which they were trying to defend their mismanagement of one of the worst public school systems in the nation, Sara turned to me and said, "Well, the Providence teachers' union just got enradished."
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Date: 2021-04-16 07:58 pm (UTC)White marble temples
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Date: 2021-04-16 07:11 pm (UTC)—Lady Cutekitten
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Date: 2021-04-16 07:35 pm (UTC)Re: :)
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Date: 2021-04-16 07:38 pm (UTC)I think I just discovered a new custom of Reality, thanks, JMG! I’d never heard of Enradishment.
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Date: 2021-04-16 08:40 pm (UTC)—Lady Cutekitten
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Date: 2021-04-17 05:38 pm (UTC)Where, oh where, is Chuck Tingle when we need him? Pounded In The Butt By An Ancient Greek Radish would fit in perfectly with his oeuvre!
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Date: 2021-04-16 09:01 pm (UTC)punishments
Date: 2021-04-17 03:01 am (UTC)Rita
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Date: 2021-04-16 09:19 pm (UTC)Such men was taken to a bridge, than he was forced to sit on bridge handrail. Than he was nailed to this handrail in spot beneath penis and above scrotum. Then people gave him razor and left.
Our hero had two choices:
1. Sit on handrail as long as he could but eventually he would loose balance, rupture his insides and die.
2. If he act fast enough he could use the razor to cut his balls off. Then, if he would be patched soon enough, he would live- but then he would have to forget about having children.
I don't know what i would do in such situation. You are right Mr. Greer, people in past were different. Much different.
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Date: 2021-04-17 01:52 am (UTC)LOL!
Date: 2021-04-16 11:35 pm (UTC)Oh, and for WofH fans, Catullus had a poem which celebrated the marriage of Pelleas and Thetis, at lest until he went off into a long digression about their bedspread and Ariadne Forsaken! Thetis, of course, being a Deep One.
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Date: 2021-04-17 05:39 pm (UTC)Enradishment
Date: 2021-04-17 12:19 am (UTC)Never a dull moment around here: one moment we're reading about Wilhelm Reich and his orgone accumulators, or how to do banishing rituals properly; and the next we're reading about, um... unique uses for garden produce. >:)
I tried to read the word in the title before I read the article, and mistranslated it as something to do with an aversion to radishes. I bet that anyone who had been subject to enradishment would have an aversion to them from then on!
I'm quite fond of reading history, and it's true that visiting past times, even fairly recent ones in our own land, is like visiting a foreign country. One of my pet peeves is the historical novelist (or sometimes even the historian) who can't quite get out of the "dress-up game" mentality, and comes across like the clueless American tourist complaining about not being able to find Cheetos while touring Egypt.
T.O.R. (Taupe Orthogonal Raccoon)
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Date: 2021-04-17 10:38 am (UTC)So I ventured to translate into my native tongue...
"Radish" are "ředkvičky".(I wanted to insert here a link with the pronunciation but did not find an audio online..., if you are interested in phonetics, you may want to check: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHUFhQgRfkg video for how "ř" is pronounced. Unfortunately, the word "ředkvičky" is not among the examples.)
If the concept of "enradishment" gets known in my country, I believe there will be several expressions in common use:
být zředkvičkován: be enradished - get the punishment
zředkvičkovat se: enradish yourself - get drunk after the event of being enradished in order to forget
zředkvičkovatět: enradish, as in: He enradished. - lose motivation/some cognitive abilities because of the repeated events of enradishment or in order to pretend not being capable of doing anything deserving the punishment...
M:-)
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Date: 2021-04-17 10:58 am (UTC)Idioms:
“Běž se zředkvičkovat!“(inf.) - Go, enradish yourself! -Bugger off.
“Zaředkvičkujeme.” (slang) - Let’s enradish. – Let’s party.
“Život je ředkvička.” - Life’s radish. – Life’s tough.
Would those sound natural in English?
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Date: 2021-04-17 05:33 pm (UTC)Might I recommend "Life's a radish." for "Život je ředkvička." That would pull in lots of rich associations in English, like "Life's a radish, and then you die." Or "Life's a bowl of radishes, and I always end up with the pits."
Good Lord, now I'm thinking of other idioms that are significantly altered by inserting a radish into them. (Aren't we all?) How about "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's radish." Or "If life gives you radishes, make ____." Hmmm, let's not go there!
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Date: 2021-04-17 11:38 am (UTC)Of course "fact checkers" say there is no data on how many died of objects in the rectum. But it seems common if you talk to ER staff. An whole eggplant more than 20cm across was the strangest one that duck duck go gave me when searching.
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Date: 2021-04-17 01:41 pm (UTC)Apparently the oddest was a ceramic salt cellar inscribed with the cheery message “A present from Clacton”
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Date: 2021-04-17 06:08 pm (UTC)Thank you!
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Date: 2021-04-17 06:50 pm (UTC)My spellcheck picked up “enradish” almost immediately. I’m not sure if this is worrisome or not.
—Lady Cutekitten
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Date: 2021-04-17 10:47 pm (UTC)I even found an article about it.
https://sarahemilybond.com/2019/07/13/consider-the-anus-radish-etymologies-adultery-and-the-defense-of-the-microhistory/
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Date: 2021-04-18 05:31 am (UTC)I'm thinking a bilingual English/Attic Greek "Beware of the Radishes" garden sign.
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Date: 2021-04-18 06:34 pm (UTC)"Ich werde dich rettichen," schrie der gehörnte Ehemann und eilte, ein ungeheures Gemüse Unheil verheißend durch die Luft schwingend, mit wildem Blick aus dem Gemüsegarten hervor und auf das Haus zu.
Thank you!
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Date: 2021-04-19 07:49 pm (UTC)Peter Khan of Potlucks
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Date: 2021-04-20 04:24 am (UTC)Butt wait, there's more! One never knows what facts will turnip here. I'd better stop before I become a pun gent.
stcathalexandria: "An whole eggplant more than 20cm"
This shows the urgent need to develop a Strategic Radish Reserve, so that this sort of thing never happens again!
Thanks for the most bizarre, entertaining thing I've read any first weekday evening this week!
- Mr. New-Writer