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Kilner auraThe first third of the twentieth century, when Albert Abrams was perfecting his machines and Leon Eeman was experimenting with biocircuits, was in many ways the golden age of etheric technology. The culture of independent scientific research was still in full flower, old-fashioned occult philosophy was still a major cultural force, and there were plenty of researchers in and out of the scientific community who were willing to buck the materalist dogma of the time and explore the Unseen using the tools of scientific research. One of the most prestigious figures in that movement was Dr. Walter Kilner. 

Born in 1847, Kilner entered the medical profession and specialized in electrotherapy, one of the cutting-edge medical specialties of the late nineteenth century. Like many physicians in his time, he carried out medical research alongside his duties caring for patients, and published a great many papers in the medical journals of the time. Around the turn of the last century, he became interested in the question of the human aura -- the field of force that many people see or feel around human bodies. Where most research into the subject focused on the aura itself, Kilner wanted to understand why some people can see it while others cannot. This led him to experiment with filters of various kinds. 

kilner gogglesThe standard optical filter in his time consisted of alcohol and dye held between two disks of glass, surrounded by a metal frame. That allowed Kilner to experiment with a wide range of dyes, and that led him in turn to an unexpected discovery.  If someone spent several minutes looking through a filter that used dicyanin, a common dark blue dye, and then went into a dim room, that person's eyes would be temporarily sensitized to the aura. Repeat the same experience several times and the sensitization became permanent. The technology that resulted from this was simple: a set of goggles that had dicyanin filters in place of lenses, and could be used quite easily by experimenters to sensitize their own eyes and those of experimental subjects. 

The Human AtmosphereKilner published a book on the subject, The Human Atmosphere, in 1911, which you can download for free here. (It was later reprinted in a revised and expanded edition in 1920 as The Human Aura.)  His experiments sorted out the aura into three layers -- the health aura or etheric body, which extended only a very short distance from the skin; the inner aura; and the outer aura. The diagram in the upper left of this post shows approximately what he and his experimental subjects saw, though the colors varied from person to person and with other factors as well. It was all classic experimental science, and the response of the scientific community...

No, they didn't actually pull a Randi -- there was plenty of ad hominem language thrown around, and there still is, but as far as I know none of the skeptics did the usual gimmick of repeating the experiment with crucial details changed and then loudly reporting a failure to replicate. My guess?  Like the church officials who refused to look through Galileo's telescope, they were afraid of what they might see. So Kilner's work was relegated to the dustbin of so-called "pseudoscience" by the scientific community. Occultists picked it up with enthusiasm -- most early twentieth century occult writers of any stature in the English-speaking world cite Kilner, because what he saw after sensitizing his vision with dicyanin goggles was what they saw after developing clairvoyance in more traditional ways, but their enthusiasm probably caused the scientific community to shun him all the more. 

Replicating Kilner's work would seem tolerably easy, not least because his book gives instructions for building and using the goggles.  The one difficulty is that dicyanin A, the dye he used, is apparently unavailable in the US. (There are claims in the alternative-science scene that it has actually been outlawed, but I have been unable to confirm this.) More recent researchers have experimented with other coal tar dyes, and also with cobalt blue and purple glass, and some successes have been reported using these methods. It remains one of the branches of etheric science in which a little systematic work might lead to considerable discoveries. 

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Date: 2021-03-30 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I looked into the claims that dicyanin is illegal. It isn't - it's just (apparently) hard to make, presumably given the absence of the coal tar feedstock (which would have been plentiful in Kilner's time, as a byproduct of coal gas manufacture) and with very limited uses. So it can be made, but it might require one of your readers with a background in chemistry to suggest a good process. I think there would be a thriving market for it, through your readership and others.

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Date: 2021-03-30 08:16 pm (UTC)
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The other phenomenon worth noting are the responses to investigations like this. The first is the Randi, the ad-hominem attack and denunciation from on high. This seems to occur when esoteric science is difficult to replicate or more conceptual. In Kilner's case, it's harder to denounce, so instead the science gets atticked - quietly ignored and shoved to the side, stamped do not enter, in the hope it'll just go away.

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Date: 2021-03-30 08:38 pm (UTC)
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I need those for my plant experiment! I scribbled some queries and found the "prana views". but the creator has disappeared into the ether for a while now. He apparently was very through in their creation.

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Date: 2021-03-30 08:57 pm (UTC)
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So “the usual gimmick of repeating the experiment with crucial details changed and then loudly reporting a failure to replicate” is as old as the hills, is it?

A bit OT, but it just makes me think of the official hydroxychloroquine tests where they gave high doses to seriously ill people and then when it failed to miraculously cure them, said it obviously doesn’t work. Or with ivermectin where they deliberately don’t give the patient any zinc and then declare it has little or no effect.

Back OT, I can see the thinnest of auras - a few inches, perhaps - around people. I’m not too sure when it started but a long time ago I did some welding using an oxyacetylene torch. I had to wear a safety mask with a thick, dark green glass to look through at the bright flame. While wearing it, I would gradually lose all perception of color and everything would just appear as black and white. When I then took the mask off again the glory of our world of colors would once again be revealed and I would wander around just marveling at them. Maybe I got sensitized to auras then.

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Date: 2021-03-30 09:03 pm (UTC)
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There may be a proper copy of The Human Aura online (https://archive.org/details/humanaura00kiln), but requires a loan to access the pdf contents.

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Date: 2021-03-30 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] miles_l
Is it known what the main effect of the cause is?

Is it the color of the lens?
if so that should be able to be replicated using a different manufacturing method.

Is it the properties of the dye itself?
then that would be harder to replicate per above.

Now you have my Steampunk side twitching. Goggles, yeah!!

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Date: 2021-03-30 09:27 pm (UTC)
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The difficulty in obtaining it may simply be that dicyanin A doesn't keep well but deteriorates quickly. I came across an old document which mentions this:
https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/bulletin/14/nbsbulletinv14n4p487_A2b.pdf
(see page 491)
It was used in stellar spectra photography at one time. I have not found anything reliable looking saying it was outlawed. It more likely just got bumped aside by the wild mad rush towards high tech photography and space telescopes.

For home grown mad scientists and budding alchemists who might be interested, www.forgottenbooks.com has a scanned copy of 'A Text-book of Dye Chemistry or the Chemistry of Dye Stuffs' by Dr Georg Von Georgievics and Dr. Eug Grandmougin translated from German by Frederick Mason, published in 1920

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Date: 2021-03-30 09:39 pm (UTC)
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It's getting to be flower season - I wonder if there are plant pigments one could extract and use instead?

Alternative filter media

Date: 2021-03-30 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've gathered discarded beverage bottles blown from dark blue glass. Perhaps a set of "beer goggles" could be fabricated from them? I've heard reliable reports that beer goggles, worn in a pub, enhance the beauty of women at the bar; perhaps by emphasizing their auras. ;-)

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Date: 2021-03-31 12:35 am (UTC)
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Wow! If anybody around here does the experiment, I'd love to look through such goggles. I do have an old and fading Kirlian photo from some convention or other. Flaring purple and white further out around my head than the largest Afro I've ever seen on anyone.

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Date: 2021-03-31 01:29 am (UTC)
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Just to throw this out there,

If in fact dicyanin A is not illegal, and someone manages to produce the dye itself or full Kilner goggles, I'd be willing to pay a decent sum for such a product, and I imagine lots of others would too.

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There is an experiment I would like to be a part of sometime. That would be having someone watch with goggles like these as I work with a third person's energy field. Or a tree's field, especially cedar. I could do it myself but I suspect the patterns at a third point of view say from the side would be more informative than my top down perspective.

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Date: 2021-03-31 02:49 am (UTC)
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You can get Goggles similar to the ones shown from Garret-Wade. Actual German Safety Goggles.
https://garrettwade.com/product/german-made-real-shop-safety-goggles -- $20
Of course [profile] m@zon and others sell 'Steampunk' style goggles for less....

I have a set with the Welding filters ($3.50). Will have to play around with them. Should not be hard to add almost any kind of filter that is about 1.5 inches diameter.

John - Coop Janitor

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Date: 2021-03-31 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lunarapprentice
Here is a link to a 1923 paper on synthesizing dicyanin a:

https://www.docdroid.net/a8Pozyk/synthesis-of-dicyanine-a-palkin1923-pdf

There is a lively blog about this at-

https://8kun.top/x/res/54351.html

It looks pretty clear that anybody who might synthesize this will need to be capable in organic chemistry and have a well-equipped lab...not me...

--Lunar Apprentice

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Date: 2021-03-31 06:32 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If dicyanin-a proves to be unobtainium, one could look up its absorption spectrum, then find readily available materials with a similar spectrum, and experiment. I did a quick search, and didn't find anything. Probably buried in a some rare absorption spectra reference handbook from 1919. I'm out of my realm here.

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Date: 2021-03-31 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This may have some information regarding the absorption spectra:

APPLICATION OF DICYANIN TO THE PHOTOGRAPHY OF STELLAR SPECTRA

https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/bulletin/14/nbsbulletinv14n4p487_A2b.pdf

It appears that there is a reference in this book that claims that cobalt glass is a functional substitute but I haven't read the book so I don't know how strong the claim is:

http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/capture.htm

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Modern tints

Date: 2021-03-31 09:41 am (UTC)
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Hello

Presumably it might be possible to use coloured tints for optical lenses and see what happens.

Regards

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Date: 2021-03-31 11:42 am (UTC)
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I found another fun Radionic's website that others might also enjoy. It has some really interesting articles!

https://wiredalchemy.com/

The goggles in your article make this go into some very interesting steampunk territory! Thank again you for this fascinating historical tour.

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Date: 2021-03-31 04:16 pm (UTC)
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Thanks for this link! The "Radionic Design, Relationship And Coherence" article got something to click regarding symbolic radionics machines that's been floating around for a while.
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Date: 2021-03-31 04:10 pm (UTC)
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Maybe this is evident in English, but it is not my first language and I need to ask: how does the person go into the dim room, wearing the dicyanin A filter or not?

Filters and spectroscopy

Date: 2021-03-31 11:05 pm (UTC)
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Regarding the options for other kinds of filters, bear in mind that our eyes judge color based on the ratios of several broad bandwidth-response curves. We don't have a prism or diffraction grating to separate colors into their wavelengths; we can't even tell the difference between a purely yellow light and a blend of green and red lights. So, dicyanine might have been a convenient material of the time, but other options seem very plausible.

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Date: 2021-04-01 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lunarapprentice
Agreed. I responded to anonymous @ 2021-03-31 07:43 pm, and noted from what I could glean from the paper, that diacyanin-A appears to simply attenuate the middle of the visible spectrum. So we perhaps needn't have to look far to find a handy substitute.

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Date: 2021-04-01 08:36 pm (UTC)
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If these Kilner goggles got popular, I wonder what ad hoc hypothesis the materialists would cook up to hide the fact that they are wrong about the nonexistence of the life-force?

J.L.Mc12

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Date: 2021-04-02 12:50 am (UTC)
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I don't know if these are manufactured in the same way as Kilner, but I happened to spot these while looking for a copy of Kilner's "The Human Aura". I may buy a pair just to mess around with them, even if they are just a gimmick it'll be fun to play with hah.

https://www.amazon.com/Aura-Glasses-See-auras-Instantly/dp/B07ZTLSF8P/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

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Date: 2021-04-02 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] avalterra
Whose going to buy these and take one for the team? I'm guessing they are made of plastic and the instructions for use don't sound the same as the instructions for the Kilner goggles, so I am suspicious. But who knows!?

AV

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Date: 2021-04-02 01:39 am (UTC)
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When I was flipping through this earlier, I had noted he also used carmine, which is much easier to obtain in reasonable quantities as its still used as a food additive and textile dye, but I'd forgotten to ask if you'd tried that yet. Had he later discounted the red goggles?

Also, PPD is on the way; knowing Canada post's backlog at the border... Happy solstice gift.

Attempts to weigh the soul...

Date: 2021-04-03 05:08 pm (UTC)
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Hi, JMG. No doubt this info is ‘old hat’ to you, but in case it isn’t, I just came across an article about Dr. Duncan MacDougall, an early 20th century Massachusetts-based physician who tried to prove that the soul exists by weighing people while they died. Nice try – but even if he had come up with conclusive evidence, I highly doubt that he would have received anything other than derision and ridicule from the status quo establishment.

https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2021/03/21-grams-the-doctor-who-tried-to-weigh-the-soul/

Ron M

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Date: 2021-04-03 08:06 pm (UTC)
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Once when I was really sick for a week, I disappeared. Well the whatever that usually operates to make “me” identify as a me, and my (our?) ability to distinguish differences in things, particularly the experience of feeling self from other, and particularly particularly the meanings attached to “things” and what self is was...turned off.
Nothing I have ever read or heard really could talk to the experience.
Closest I’ve found to my experience would be the idea of metaphysical nihilism. Not as an idea but a lived experience. This lasted for days.
Anyways, to share a couple notable insights I had; the highest heavens to the darkest hells were exactly the same. And they really didn’t matter. Haha sounds so silly to talk about. I usually don’t. It only seems to dirty the felt memory of the experience. And no one ever know what the hell I'm talking about anyways.. Outside this blog of course!
Another “insight” (though I feel more as if something was telling me than me uncovering anything)
Was that true sin was giving away the plot of the game too soon.
As in whatever that is experiencing being cow, for example, is somehow shown that it is not cow, but it is actually the whatever that is experiencing the experience.
If the cow could be made aware of this, it would lose the spontaneity of its being, and might even just stop doing the things to keep it a cow. Possibly laying down to just die.
I get the notion that at some level (probably mostly unconsciously) there is a built in resistance, or stop switch in the healthy cow to hinder the cow finding out that it’s not the cow but the whatever.
This is amplified with humans that will literally kill you if you try revealing the plot of their game before they have the ears to hear it.

Thanks again,
Travis

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Date: 2021-04-03 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What a fascinating series!

I've not seen auras, but I've known people who report that they do. Kilner's work would be ideal for a modern day tinkerer to continue.

The Raspberry Pi portable computer (from $5 and up, credit card sized - most powerful is still under $90, before the case, power supply etc.) is very popular with tinkerers, designers, makers, and also people selling any kind of gadget where a built-in computer is handy.

There are one-inch video screens that attach to the Pi, with a hundred or so pixels across, that the Pi can set to any of tens of thousands of colors. With a pair of these at the side of a headband, aimed at half-silvered mirrors, an experimenter could test colors and also whether it makes a difference to have different colors or transparency for central or peripheral vision. Total experimental rig likely well under $200 if the experimenter didn't already have a Pi handy.

Could also be combined with Persinger's "flash the light til you see God" experiments.

Unfortunately, as a software engineer who's left that field, I can think of the idea for the experiment but my hardware wiring skills are too rudimentary for it. Perhaps someone else can take the idea and run with it?

I believe the "maker" and "Pi hobbyist" community would be intrigued by anything that involved using their favorite little computer to help people see auras, rather than driven to shut it all down as a threat to their belief system.

- Mr. New-Writer

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