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door to door evangelistI've been thinking quite a bit of late about the odd state of mind people get into when they evangelize. That's largely been driven by the behavior of some people over the last week on my blog, but of course this isn't the first time, or the thousand and first, that I've encountered it. 

I'm thinking among other things about a guy I knew, normally thoughtful and courteous, who got talked by his wife into taking the current version of EST with her. (I think it's called Landmark Forum now, but it's the same schtick.) When he finished the training, he immediately spammed all his friends, including me, with this four-screen-long email that sounded like an advertising flyer. I emailed him back to warn him that somebody had hacked his email and was using it for spam.

He responded saying, no, it was him, and he just wanted to share with everybody how wonderful the training had been. I expressed a lack of enthusiasm, and he responded with baffled hurt -- why, everybody he knew was treating him as though he'd just started preaching to them about Jesus. I explained to him that this was basically what he'd done...and he literally couldn't hear it. No, the slick four-screen sales pitch he'd dumped on all his friends was just him expressing his enthusiasm, and why were we all being so mean? (In case you're wondering, no, our friendship didn't survive this.)

There was a term for such a person back in the day: "esthole." There were a lot of them, and they had exactly the same odd blinkered attitude toward their actions: fifteen-minute-long sales pitches for EST on every conceivable occasion, to every conceivable person, was just ordinary enthusiasm for something really wonderful, and why did everyone react so badly to it? 

I got a corresponding situation over the last week on my blog, after posting something on the fallacy of insisting that a single diet or dietary theory was right for everyone. I was pleasantly surprised, I should note, by the way the vegans in my readership reacted to this; there were some raised hackles, to be sure, but I'd used veganism as an example in uncomplimentary ways, so by and large I didn't consider their reactions out of line. Nor did I field many long screeds about the evilly evil evilness of eating animal products. It seems possible, in fact, that the vegan movement may be getting over its awkward phase and achieving maturity, in which case it may be around for the long term. 

No, the estholes this time were the fans of Weston A. Price, a Cleveland dentist from the early 20th century who came up with an elaborate dietary theory based on his research into traditional diets. It was the same behavior pattern as with my esthole (former) friend: the long comments all circling back to encomia of Weston A. Price and his theories, the insistence that anybody who didn't join them in singing hallelujas to WAP was being unreasonably hostile, and so on, ending in a habit I particularly detest -- the WAPpers on the list having lengthy conversations solely with each other, in which they loudly praised each other for glorifying WAP and took pot shots at those of us who weren't on the WAPper bandwagon. So I declared the subject closed and started deleting attempted posts, and immediately fielded thank you notes from a flurry of other readers who were as bored with the WAP evangelism as I was. 

It's useful, mind you, to have advance warning of what the next big evangelical diet cult is likely to be, so I can systematically delete all attempts to proselytize for it on my blog, and take such other steps as one takes to deal with tiresome evangelists of every stripe. Still, it has me wondering: what is the state of mind that makes estholes and other evangelists so imperceptive? I suppose it's funny that somebody with Aspergers syndrome like me would be blinking in surprise at someone else's blindness to basic social courtesies, but there it is...

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Date: 2018-02-07 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sorry to hear about the “WAP attack” on last week’s posting, JMG. Yikes! The phenomenon of the “new convert” gushing the “good news” to all and sundry certainly is common. At a certain age I was temporarily prone to such behaviour only to be saved by my own extremely shy and reserved nature.

Your question is certainly worth pondering. What comes to my mind is accounts from tales of faery wherein the humans are struck by glamour (or in USA, “glamor”, or in 1720s Scotland, “glamer” – “a sort of spell that would affect the eyesight of those afflicted, so that objects appear different than they actually are”). Of course, I am not saying that WAP was a faery or that he cast a spell on anyone, but if a diet (or a religion or cult) in some way has a life and power of its own, perhaps it is able to enchant those who fall within its orbit.

Ron M

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Date: 2018-02-08 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kayr
Having been caught up in evangelical fever before, it felt to me like community. I was more powerful, enhanced, what ever because I was in a community of believers. It was intoxicating.

However, once you get over the fever, you start seeing the flaws in the system and the failings of the one true way shows up and you realize that you were a large jerk with little if any redeeming social qualities.

I think it is like a drug.
Edited Date: 2018-02-08 01:48 am (UTC)

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Date: 2018-02-08 11:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amritarosa
Yes, indeed.

One of the things I am working on being more discerning about is being able to tel the difference between a beneficial harmony between myself and and org/system/egregor and noticing when I have been "glamored" by such.

This strikes me as a very similar thing to what was being discussed in a recent thread (here or on the blog? can't remember) about spotting the difference between actions that are a result of fate/karma, and those that are the result of will in action.

Kayr: I can relate. It's much like that, complete with "withdrawals" after intentional severing, and some regular practices simply ceasing to work the way they did before, at least in my case. Thank goodness -that's- something I can check off my life experiences list.

Bonnie
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