Another Magic Monday
Feb. 5th, 2018 11:56 amIt's time for Magic Monday again, my intermittent open post on occult theory and practice -- so ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. Any question received by midnight tonight Eastern time will get an answer, though it may be Tuesday sometime before I get to them all.
With that said, have at it!
With that said, have at it!
Geomancy and the alphabet
Date: 2018-02-05 05:32 pm (UTC)There was a recent Facebook discussion involving letter attributions to the geomantic figures, and the topic of your works came up. In your book "Art and Practice of Geomancy", you give a set of letter attributions to the sixteen geomantic figures. Tracing it through the literature, I can only find one other instance of the same set of attributions: that given by John Heydon in his Theomagia, the last one that's associated with the AIQ BKR-style Roman cipher (each with an angelic name appended). Why did you choose this particular alphabet system, despite his other sets for the Roman, Greek, and Hebrew systems, or those given by Cattan and Fludd?
Re: Geomancy and the alphabet
Date: 2018-02-05 06:08 pm (UTC)Re: Geomancy and the alphabet
From:Royal Road seeker
Date: 2018-02-05 05:53 pm (UTC)Now, for my actual question: Is there a known rule of thumb, simplified table, or by-planet checklist with one-to-one correspondences of all these multiple factors more suitable for calculating a rough-and ready idea of one’s planets’ relative strength? Is there a Royal Shortcut to Astrology? Even spreadsheets are not helping unravel the tangle here.
Re: Royal Road seeker
Date: 2018-02-05 06:15 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-05 05:55 pm (UTC)You have mentioned the possibility (can't remember if galabes or ecosophia) that given the different approaches/behaviour of various groups worshipping/praying/connecting with the christ, that different groups might be connecting with something other than expected. Given the limitations and variations in what people perceive, if one is trying to find a deity or patron, how can one be sure what one is connecting to?
Put another way, what approaches might searchers use to avoid being spiritually spoofed (as in where scammers set up websites that purport to be one thing and are actually something else)?
(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-05 06:33 pm (UTC)As for what you should do -- well, that's simple enough: pay close attention to your own level of consciousness, as expressed in your thoughts, words, and deeds. You will not be able to reach a more perfect manifestation of a deity than your own state of consciousness will permit...
(no subject)
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-05 10:06 pm (UTC) - Expand(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-05 10:42 pm (UTC) - Expand(no subject)
From:Monotheistic deities
Date: 2018-02-05 06:10 pm (UTC)Re: Monotheistic deities
Date: 2018-02-05 06:36 pm (UTC)Re: Monotheistic deities
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-05 07:55 pm (UTC) - ExpandRe: Monotheistic deities
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-05 09:12 pm (UTC) - ExpandRe: Monotheistic deities
From:purpose of meditation
Date: 2018-02-05 06:52 pm (UTC)I've noticed that when I meditate well on an appropriate topic, it's much easier to make a divination immediately afterwards--the meanings of the cards coalesce in my mind as soon as I look, and I often see/understand things I had never grasped before. Which leads me to wonder...is one of the purposes of meditation to open the link between your mind and the plane of 'understanding'? So that you're prepared when you make the divination? And if you do this regularly enough, does that link stay more open all the time?
Also, the whole divination thing is definitely falling into the category of TSW. I have a very scientific job and you wouldn't think the Tarot has much to say about that. But I usually ask 'what is the most important thing for me to notice today" and in reply, sometimes the cards manage to express concepts like 'binary refractive telescope'. Yes--that one was not apparent until I stepped onto the roof of the building and saw the round spinning thing with two horns against the heavens. And suddenly The Wheel of Fortune combined with two other cards with Taurus imagery and a woman standing against a night sky with her arms stretched out (The Hierophant and the Mother of Swords) made so much sense. But seriously. Whoa.
Re: purpose of meditation
Date: 2018-02-05 11:56 pm (UTC)Clairaudient communication with spritis
Date: 2018-02-05 06:53 pm (UTC)Re: Clairaudient communication with spirits
Date: 2018-02-05 11:58 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-05 06:59 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 12:00 am (UTC)Visualization and magic
Date: 2018-02-05 07:07 pm (UTC)I have no ability to visualize. Is it possible for me to learn magic?
Eija
Re: Visualization and magic
Date: 2018-02-06 12:02 am (UTC)Re: Visualization and magic
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-06 02:28 pm (UTC) - ExpandRe: Visualization and magic
From:Re: Visualization and magic
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-06 08:14 pm (UTC) - Expand(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-05 07:57 pm (UTC)My question is about the magical properties of glass. Like silk, I've read that it is an energetic insulator. Does that hold for the tradition you practice?
Does glass have its own active energy, or is it neutral? I've not developed my own sensitivity to such things enough to be able to tell, myself, with glass on its own.
I've made some small pouches peyote-stitch style from seed beads for a couple of objects that seem to ask for it. I made the pouches to hang over my heart area in appropriate colors. It feels like the right thing, but I am concerned that the glass may block the energies I want to have near me. The pouches have no lining, are made from beads and thread only, so they have hundreds of little openings in the spaces between beads, so that may be enough. and the top end is open. I wouldn't put just any object in those containers, just the couple so far that seem to be ok with it- a small tektite and a little red "bear" stone.
Curious what your take on glass as a magical substance is.
Thanks!
Bonnie
(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 12:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
From:(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-05 07:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 12:05 am (UTC)Past/Future Lives
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-06 03:44 am (UTC) - ExpandRe: Past/Future Lives
From:SOP
Date: 2018-02-05 09:53 pm (UTC)Could you tell me more about the origins of the SOP (beyond its creation by Archdruid Gilbert) and the more advanced practices in the Druid Magic Handbook (such as the Grail workings, or the Standing Stone enchantment)? Someone on the AODA forums has been able to trace some of the symbolism of the SOP back to the Magickal Order of the Golden Dawn, whose website is still accessible via internet archives. Yet that's about as far as we've gotten.
Kind regards,
Brigyn
Re: SOP
Date: 2018-02-06 12:07 am (UTC)Initiation processes
Date: 2018-02-05 10:21 pm (UTC)I can smell a changed season in the air here, and whilst it is no longer summer, neither is it autumn. Are things warming up in your part of the world?
A few months back I read a book about a Zen Buddhist retreat (Fire Monks) and they employed an initial initiation ceremony which basically seemed to entail ignoring the potential students for a period of time extending into days until they'd proven their genuine capacity for interest in the retreat. I assume such an initiation process has long historical roots?
I was also mildly curious as to the economics of the retreat as infrastructure such as they had does not come cheap. But alas, we are discussing the occult here, but such thoughts were on my mind as I was reading the book. Sometimes clear sight and a mildly cynical disposition can be a curse! ;-)! As an amusing side story, a long time ago I did ask for that gift, and who would have thought that gifts come with costs? It is clear to me now!!! Oh well...
Cheers
Chris
Re: Initiation processes
Date: 2018-02-06 12:19 am (UTC)This is what some modern Western occult schools call a "flake filter" -- a way of chasing off people who aren't serious about the work. It's an absolute necessity, because there's an endless supply of people who want to embrace spirituality as a pose but aren't willing to do a lick of honest work, and they will reliably drag you down. I don't take personal students any more, because every single person I had for years who approached me wanting to be a personal student turned out to be interesting in basking in the warm glow of being one of JMG's personal students rather than, say, actually interested in learning and practicing anything.
Re: Initiation processes
From:Re: Initiation processes
From:LRP
Date: 2018-02-05 10:22 pm (UTC)Last fall I had practiced the lesser ritual of the pentagram for a couple of months, and had started to get meaningful messages in my meditations following the steps in your book the celtic golden dawn. My interpretation was that I was given knowledge from ceugant (i.e. during my water-meditation the link between water, Veuns and raspberries appeared, before I later read about it). I also had several quite syncronistic experiences in my every-day life, which indicated that the training lead forward.
One midnight when everybody else in the house had fallen asleep, and everything was silent, both inside the house and outside (I live in a rural area with quiet surroundings), the summoning ritual resulted in unusually powerful (for me) circle. I felt very empowered, and decided to pray for my family before proceeding. The praying gave even more power to the situation, but at the time of the climax of power, a loud noise started very suddenly outside the house. The house was roaring in a very unusual way, and people woke up in the house. It turned out to be an extreme rainstorm, that lasted for just a few minutes before everything went silent again.
For me, it was hard to not associate my experience during the ritual with the sudden rainstorm. The timing was so perfect, so to speak, and I actually got so bothered about other possible implications, that my daily ritual-routine broke. However, since I really missed the conversation with "higher planes", I'm now doing the ritual on a very regular basis again, but possibly with some bad form of fear involved... Any advice or comments regarding that?
Re: LRP
Date: 2018-02-06 12:21 am (UTC)several questions
Date: 2018-02-05 10:33 pm (UTC)I've got a couple of questions.
First, I've started trying to visualize my consciousness as being seated in a sphere of energy in my solar plexus. I began doing this during a moment of boredom, but I've noticed several effects. When I do it correctly, my mind quiets down, my creative energy seems to replenish, and on at least one occasion seemed to take on more substance, as though the emotions that they were feeling had become concrete to my senses. (That's not quite it, but I'm not sure how else to describe it.)
My question is, is there anything to this, or am I fooling myself?
Second, does occult philosophy have any views on end-of-life suicide? For instance, if I get diagnosed with Parkinson's when I'm 60 and the health care system is shredded or nonexistent, does it do any harm to the progression of my soul to check out early? I feel like at the very least, I'd be preventing myself from becoming a burden to friends and family.
Thanks,
Cliff
Re: several questions
Date: 2018-02-06 12:25 am (UTC)Re: several questions
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-06 06:20 pm (UTC) - ExpandRe: several questions
From:Sea water and the telluric current
Date: 2018-02-05 10:46 pm (UTC)I recently started working at a marina, and since I now spend most days on floating docks and boats, I've found myself wondering whether the telluric current flows differently through water than it does through earth and rock. Would invoking the telluric current on a boat or a floating pier be any more or less effective than doing so on dry land?
I suppose it's somewhat moot for me at the moment, since I'm currently working through the DOGD material, which you've said is almost exclusively solar. Regarding the lesser ritual of the pentagram, how large are the pentagrams that you usually trace? Does size make a difference?
Thanks!
-RT
Re: Sea water and the telluric current
Date: 2018-02-06 12:26 am (UTC)Kuiper belt and asteroids
Date: 2018-02-05 11:34 pm (UTC)Did I miss the post you were contemplating? And in case you didn't get around to writing it yet, would you be prepared to give a short summary of your thinking, particularly concerning Pluto? Thanks a lot!
Re: Kuiper belt and asteroids
Date: 2018-02-06 12:30 am (UTC)Re: Kuiper belt and asteroids
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-06 09:36 am (UTC) - ExpandThe Celestial Art
Date: 2018-02-06 12:08 am (UTC)Re: The Celestial Art
Date: 2018-02-06 12:31 am (UTC)LBRP for polytheists with archangels
Date: 2018-02-06 12:27 am (UTC)Re: LBRP for polytheists with archangels
Date: 2018-02-06 12:33 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 01:42 am (UTC)Do you still recommend doing the Middle Pillar exercise with the Tiphareth-Malkuth circulation, rather than the larger circulation from the crown to the feet and back? It feels strange to me.
(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 05:12 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 02:10 am (UTC)I recently set up an altar to Thor. After giving it a final look over I headed out to my kitchen to get dinner underway. As I walked into the kitchen, I saw through the back window what appeared to be an older man, quite transparent, with shoulder length gray wavy hair, rough knee-length tunic with simple rope belt, loose trousers, and very simple shoes, walking away. His back was angled toward me, and he looked stooped from years of labor. My first thought was that perhaps deities have entourages at many levels. Would this be so? If so, reasonable to assume my piety level is about on par with a Viking Age farmer? It sure seems like that is what I saw, before he vanished into the back fence.
Thanks in advance for your generosity, JMG.
(OtterGirl)
(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 05:13 am (UTC)(no subject)
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-06 06:05 am (UTC) - Expand(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2018-02-07 02:11 am (UTC) - ExpandI ching and Tarot
Date: 2018-02-06 03:09 am (UTC)Is this the place to ask about things like I Ching and Tarot?
A lifelong rationalist who currently feels like it might not have been that good an idea.
Re: I ching and Tarot
Date: 2018-02-06 05:13 am (UTC)SOP advice
Date: 2018-02-06 03:35 am (UTC)I’d just like to sound you out about my varied experiences with the SOP. I started practicing the Elemental Cross and Circulation of Light two years ago and expanded to the full SOP, by the book (your book on Druidry, of course!) about 1 ¾ years ago. Same place, same time, at least 360 days per year. For the past year or so, however, I have wondered about invoking Hindu deities instead of Druid gods, since I have been a practicing Hindu for over 40 years (no offence to Druid gods – I have been able to imagine them well, and even feel them, but they just aren’t the “same family” that I identify with). But I could not come up with a combination of Hindu gods and goddesses that “felt right”. Also, when performing the Circulation of Light, I have tended to “go big” – far beyond my body to encompass my house and property, which has always felt like an effort. Also, I am a strict vegetarian.
Then, over the course of the past ½ year, I felt gradually more drained of energy; this could be for a variety of reasons (2017 was a roller-coaster for me and my family), but I felt that there might be something wrong with my SOP practice. So, I went down to just the Elemental Cross and Circulation of Light for a couple of months and then went back to the full SOP, but this time with two changes: (1) using what I feel is the right mix of Hindu god and goddess names; an (2) making sure that the energies that I project in the Elemental Cross and Circulation of Light flow “through” me from above and below, rather than “from” me outward. So far this has felt better – and I hope that I am on a better track.
Do you have any comments on my “draining” experience or suggestions regarding my “new” practice?
Thanks a million!
Ron M
Re: SOP advice
Date: 2018-02-06 05:16 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 03:41 am (UTC)These Magic Mondays have been fascinating, thank you.
My questions are about visualization. When I first started doing ritual, the visualization seemed pretty much fine. (I was a serious daydreamer growing up, so I'd had plenty of practice creating mental images.)after a month or so, though, some part of my mind started sabotaging the images. My spheres of light would explode, or the earth I was standing on would go up in a cartoon mushroom cloud, or the angels would make rude hand gestures, that sort of thing. It was always very jarring and unsettling. I was working from "Learning Ritual Magic" at the time.
So here are my questions. First, is that something that's really problematic within a ritual, or just one of those things where I have to buckle down and keep practicing until it resolves itself? Secondly, are there any non-ritual practices I could do to improve my mental discipline so my brain stops trolling me? It happens outside of ritual, too, although it's easier to ignore.
Thanks!
Marie
(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 05:17 am (UTC)Reincarnation related
Date: 2018-02-06 04:14 am (UTC)Re: Reincarnation related
Date: 2018-02-06 05:17 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 08:49 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-02-06 06:22 pm (UTC)