Magic Monday
Dec. 25th, 2017 02:16 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
As noted on the blog last Wednesday, instead of an "ask me anything" post this week on ecosophia.net, I'll be hosting a "Magic Monday" today. What does that mean? It means "ask me anything about occultism, and I'll post an answer here." Since this Monday is a busy day for a lot of people, being sacred to two popular religions -- Christianity on the one hand, and Consumerism on the other -- if comments trickle in on Tuesday et al., I'm not going to be a stickler for the point.
That said, have at it!
***PLEASE NOTE: as of midnight, 26 December 2017, this Magic Monday has packed its tents and gone away. If you have questions you haven't posted yet, please save them for the next Magic Monday on January 1!.***
***PLEASE NOTE: as of midnight, 26 December 2017, this Magic Monday has packed its tents and gone away. If you have questions you haven't posted yet, please save them for the next Magic Monday on January 1!.***
intentions of different magic systems
Date: 2017-12-25 08:38 pm (UTC)You’ve mentioned in a few places how different magic systems make use of different energy centres/symbolism/techniques/etc because they have different goals. Could you describe the overall intentions which shape such factors in systems you are familiar with?
Also, on the Well of Galabes, I think there is mention about a future post on the drawbacks of the Golden Dawn, which I would be curious to hear more about if an additional question isn’t too greedy.
Merry Magic Monday!
Bewilderness
Re: intentions of different magic systems
Date: 2017-12-25 09:39 pm (UTC)So if all you want is the particular set of resonances that make you a good martial artist, you concentrate strictly on the point along the midline that's about two finger widths below the navel -- thats the hara or dantien, the energy point used in most East Asian martial arts. If all you want is a certain mode of intuitive clairvoyance, you concentrate on the point between the eyebrows, and so on. If you want a more balanced set of results, you work with a series of points.
Symbols and techniques are the same way. What do you want to achieve? If you want visionary experiences, there's one set of practices; if you want the capacity to move and shape subtle energies, there's another; if you want the kind of transformative experience generally known as "enlightenment," there's another, and so on. All roads emphatically do not lead to the same place, and if you're in New York and want to get to Boston, you don't take the highway headed south.
As for the Golden Dawn, that's actually fairly simple. The rituals of initiation are keyed to the Spheres of the Tree of Life, and that results in a very predictable kind of blowback if you take an initiation for a Sphere you haven't already integrated. The usual problem comes with the Adeptus Minor ritual, since very few people have integrated the Tiphareth level of consciousness; when they take the initiation, unless they can successfully coordinate the influx of energy with their existing state of consciousness -- which does happen, fortunately, but not as often as one would like -- the initiate manifests the Qliphothic side of Tiphareth instead, and becomes an arrogant jerk convinced of his own omniscience.
That's why there are so many people like that in the Golden Dawn scene; it's an unfortunate side effect of the structure of the grades. That's also why Dion Fortune and so many other offshoots of the Golden Dawn tradition scrapped the existing grade structure and replaced it, usually with a system of three degrees not linked to the Tree of Life; you get the same positive effects without the blowback.
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Date: 2017-12-27 02:31 am (UTC)Re: intentions of different magic systems
Date: 2017-12-27 04:47 am (UTC)Vibrating divine names or words of power in the centers is crucial to their full awakening. Partly that's because focusing sound on these centers has a potent effect on the etheric aspects of the body; partly it's because the gods and goddesses are real beings who can assist in the work if invoked respectfully!
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