A Curious Detail of Natural Magic
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In the lore of natural magic, every kind of gemstone has a different effect on consciousness; these are normally categorized by the old scheme of the seven planets. Diamonds correspond to the planet Mars. Their magical virtue is that they give strength and victory in battle, but they are also traditionally unlucky, and make their wearers unhappy.
Maybe it's just pure coincidence, but I find myself noticing that it was right after a stone of war and unhappiness became standard wear for married women that the divorce rate began to soar, and many branches of the feminist movement took on a distinctly angry and bitter tone.
If you want a better-omened stone for an engagement or a wedding ring, the magical lore suggests going for an emerald. Emeralds correspond to Venus, and are fortunate for love; they were held to strengthen the eyes and the memory; and they make the wearer truthful and difficult to fool by trickery, all of which would be helpful in marriage. I'm sure the diamond merchants won't approve, but it might be worth trying to reverse the trend...
nice work?
Date: 2018-12-08 04:20 pm (UTC)Re: nice work?
Date: 2018-12-08 04:29 pm (UTC)Other Bad Stones for Rings
Date: 2018-12-08 04:45 pm (UTC)Could you please provide some examples?
And because someone may get here through web searches in the future, I will take the liberty to link the famous 1982 article on diamonds by The Atlantic.
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Date: 2018-12-08 04:48 pm (UTC)(I clearly need to pick up a copy of the Encyclopaedia of Natural Magic; finding information on these kinds of things is halfway impossible as most sources will promise that the thing will manifest everything under the sun, and good luck picking out what it might actually be helpful for from that long list.)
engagement ring
Date: 2018-12-08 05:11 pm (UTC)Deliberate Sabotage?
Date: 2018-12-08 06:20 pm (UTC)Ron M
Re: Other Bad Stones for Rings
Date: 2018-12-08 06:50 pm (UTC)Onyx is a stone of Saturn, and brings depression, bad dreams, and discord; you can counteract those effects by wearing it together with sard, which is the opaque form of carnelian. (These two are often found layered, forming the stone sardonyx, which has powerful magical properties.)
Opals are generally bad luck to wear; the opal corresponds to the Moon in its waning phases, and attracts all kinds of misfortune. The one exception is the very rare black opal, which has the opposite effect and attracts good fortune of all kinds.
Those are the two I know of. Most other gemstones have beneficial influences when worn.
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Date: 2018-12-08 06:53 pm (UTC)Re: engagement ring
Date: 2018-12-08 06:54 pm (UTC)Re: Deliberate Sabotage?
Date: 2018-12-08 06:55 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-12-08 07:14 pm (UTC)gems in wedding rings
Date: 2018-12-08 07:24 pm (UTC)The social utility of engagement rings with gemstones is that they show that the suitor has money (or in the case of a ring that is handed down in the family, that his family has money). The engagement ring is spoken of a love token, but this is chivalry; an engagement ring with a big rock is a bride price. If the fiancee breaks the engagement, she is supposed to return the ring.
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Date: 2018-12-08 07:38 pm (UTC)for us in winter of culture
Topaz for friendship!
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Date: 2018-12-08 08:01 pm (UTC)Love is pure gold
Date: 2018-12-08 08:38 pm (UTC)...
Date: 2018-12-08 08:40 pm (UTC)The word "conflict diamond" comes to mind... ;-)
Re: Other Bad Stones for Rings
Date: 2018-12-08 08:51 pm (UTC)Opals
Date: 2018-12-08 09:37 pm (UTC)Lore in my family had it that opals were fine if worn by those born in October, opals being the birthstone of the month of October, but were unlucky if worn by anyone not born in October.
Yanocoches
diamonds
Date: 2018-12-08 10:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-12-09 02:17 am (UTC)And it now resides in the Smithsonian Museum in Washington D.C. where it has been since 1958. Hmmm.....
JLfromNH
Re: Other Bad Stones for Rings
Date: 2018-12-09 02:42 am (UTC)Rita
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Date: 2018-12-09 03:09 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2018-12-09 03:37 am (UTC)Would have looked it up in my copy of the Encyclopedia of Natural Magic, but we're moving and it's packed away in storage...
-escher
Investment
Date: 2018-12-09 07:46 am (UTC)any indications for the metal used in the rings? My wife and I only have platinum bands, no stones.
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Date: 2018-12-09 05:16 pm (UTC)For the sake of thought experiment (with disclaimer I understand your stance on fictional magic, and that it don't work. Let's say we are discussing the chaos magic idea of stealing symbolism from fiction), if you wanted to create real-world replicas of Tree Elven Rings (Vilya, Nenya and Narya), what materials and gems would track the closest? I am pretty sure that some occultist give such speculations some thoughts;)
Changeling