Well, the self-proclaimed Magic Resistance just scored another impressive own goal. Today's hex party at a Brooklyn pagan bookstore, dedicated to cursing Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh (and everyone and everything else the attendees happen to be upset about), got plenty of advance media publicity -- and thus came to the attention of conservative Roman Catholics. (That's Kavanaugh's religious affiliation, after all.) As a result, Catholics have broken out their own substantial arsenal of ritual weaponry to protect Kavanaugh: exorcists are performing masses on his behalf, and ordinary Catholic laypeople are fasting and praying the rosary with the same end in view. I'm not a fan of the Roman Catholic church, for a variety of reasons. (First among them: my wife is an ex-Catholic, and like nearly everyone else I know who's left that church, she bailed after watching repeated, appalling abuses of power on the part of Catholic clergy and religious, which were condoned and covered up by the hierarchy.) That said, we're talking about the world's largest single religious denomination, which has getting on for two thousand years of experience crafting rituals to deal with hostile nonphysical powers. The moral failings of the Catholic hierarchy, serious as they are, don't affect the efficacy of Catholic ritual forms or the potency that competent priests and devout believers can put into them.
(This probably deserves a few words of further comment. An embarrassingly large number of people on the leftward end of things seem to think that their magic has to work because they're the good guys, y'know, and the other side is doomed to inevitable failure because they're so eeeeeeevil. That shows the bad influence of cheap fantasy novels on modern thought. One plumber, let's say, can be a perfectly competent plumber and and be a rotten person; another can be a really nice person with all the right opinions, and still do a lousy job of fixing your sink. The same is true in magic. Moral virtue is no substitute for competent ritual backed by a thorough knowledge of magical principles -- or vice versa, for that matter.)
In other words, by neglecting one of the basic rules of effective magic and blathering their intentions far and wide, the Magic Resistance has just recruited an 800 pound gorilla for the other side. You can bet that in the weeks and months and years to come, conservative Catholics will keep a sharp eye out for any other magical working aimed at Donald Trump, Brett Kavanaugh, or any other conservative targets that attract hostile magical attention, and break out their own well-honed cache of ritual workings to counter it. I doubt the results will be particularly welcome to Trump's Neopagan enemies.
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Date: 2018-10-20 04:14 pm (UTC)In a recent article here: https://wildhunt.org/page/2
Michael Hughes acknowledges that the ritual to keep Kavanaugh out of office did not seem to be effective, however he did go on to say that more importantly the ritual made people feel empowered and powerful, and gave them a channel for their anger. To me, the latter point is key. I highly suspect the real point of these rituals for a lot of people -if they realise it or not- is to give them a sense of peace about their hates. I wonder if deep down they don't want to actually do anything at all about Trump, Kavanaugh, et al., because then there would be no outlet for their said hate. They just want to *feel* good about it.
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Date: 2018-10-20 06:04 pm (UTC)But you're probably right -- they want someone to hate. If that's widespread enough, expect a GOP victory in the midterms...
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Date: 2018-10-20 05:00 pm (UTC)Tidlösa
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Date: 2018-10-20 05:00 pm (UTC)Not just historically, a year or two ago my father-in-law's sister-in-law was accused in rural Africa of uaing witchcraft (evil magic, in local context) and told by police that either she must leave town or she would be put in jail for her own safety. (I haven't met her, but knowing the family, she's probably guilty of being too educated and praying too effectively.)
If you simply must go casting spells against people, shut up for everyone's safety! Because what's going to happen if you've publicised your actions and then something happens to the person? As high profile as these actions are, you have visits from Secret Service as a starting point-did you incite that? Were you involved in plotting? And that's just to start with. What conclusion will other folks come to, after the SS is done talking to you?
Either this magics' practitioners are really short-sighted and/or foolish, or they don't believe what they're doing actually can work. Given what's been said here by several others about the sloppiness of the spells, I'm coming to the conclusion that the soi-disant Resistance does NOT believe magic works. If it doesn't really work, then it doesn't matter if you invoke the wrong powers in the wrong ways, and since it doesn't work, you don't need to worry about getting some stuck on you.
Now, I'm reminded of the story of Balaam's Ass. It doesn't matter what you believe, if you're wrong about it, you'll get consequences. It might be just as well for these magicians and everyone else if their priuses up and start telling them to knock it off with the curses.
BoysMom, annoyed that supposed adults can't think through consequences as well as an elementary child!
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Date: 2018-10-20 05:40 pm (UTC)If say Trump had fired someone unfairly and they did a working to have him fired too, would there be blowback on them?
I agree that the so-called Magical Resistance is a farce and will hasten the end of Neopaganism. It is also another example of the pollution of politics into spirituality. Keep the spheres separate!!
I have just discovered your work - very interesting.
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Date: 2018-10-20 06:11 pm (UTC)As for the separation of politics and spirituality, agreed. Mixing the two is always a bad idea.
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Date: 2018-10-20 08:29 pm (UTC)"I call upon you
To bind
Donald J. Trump
So that his malignant works may fail utterly"
It would appear that the magic Hughes has marshaled to further his own malignant works of leading mass hexes has, increasingly, failed utterly. I imagine with some fear how much more utterly he may fail over time...
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Date: 2018-10-21 04:44 am (UTC)Secrecy
Date: 2018-10-20 09:14 pm (UTC)How does the importance of secrecy here work? The Catholic rituals are entirely public--both in this case and in general. What is it that is important about secrecy, but applies differently between the "Magical Resistance" and the Catholics? I feel like I'm misunderstanding the word in this context.
On another context, I'm a convert to the Catholic Church, and entirely get your wife's point; Belloc's comment about "no merely human enterprise carried out with such knavish imbecility would have lasted a fortnight" comes to mind frequently.
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Date: 2018-10-20 11:49 pm (UTC)A few questions that came to my mind while reading your post: Every now and then I am wondering why the Catholic Church is such a stable construct despite the long list of abuses and crimes committed and condoned over such a long time. From a magical perspective, does its power stem from the fact that it's kind of an umbrella organization which incorporated (or assimilated?) a large variety of spiritual streams that were and are praying and performing rituals to the same god?
And secondly: How did western occultism manage to survive the continuous presence of that powerful 800 pound gorilla over the centuries?
Lastly (I am still mulling over what to make about that coincidence...) just yesterday evening I stumbled over some beautiful interpretations of medieval Christian music. Powerful. Maybe you and / or the other readers find as much delight in it as I do:
Llibre Vermell - Stella splendens (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lw8nH6dQIo) (Latin and English lyrics in the comments)
A Madre de Jesu Cristo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBP8SuZgETk) (If you enjoy it, the full concert can be found here: Sacred Music From Medieval Spain: The Llibre Vermell And The Cantigas De Santa Maria (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ios-NT0fNI))
Greetings from Germany,
Nachtgurke
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Date: 2018-10-21 05:00 am (UTC)2) Secrecy and a superior understanding of magical practice.
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Date: 2018-10-21 02:05 am (UTC)I now predict that the blue wave shall be a red tide.
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Date: 2018-10-21 05:06 am (UTC)The irony is that Hughes admits up front that "Every day we witness the juggernaut of Trumpism rolling forward." Er, what about that mighty binding spell that was supposed to stop him in its tracks? To me, at least, this sounds rather remarkably like an admission of failure...
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Date: 2018-10-21 03:23 am (UTC)Several years back, the activist wing of my UU church (it was part of the broader "Standing on the Side of Love" movement, a perfectly bland and useless name for a perfectly bland and useless movement) got into a fracas with the minister and associated staff. They schismed away and dwindled to nothing.
When I look back at my memories of the event, there's a strangeness to it all. The fracas was sparked by a minor conflict over scheduling, and somehow ballooned into a tremendous row. No one could explain the hows or whys of this, or even be bothered to notice.
More, in the final showdown between the two camps, there a very strange atmosphere in the meeting room - I cannot describe it to anyone who wasn't there. People came away very traumatized from that meeting.
But reading these posts, it seems to me that we were all operating in an altered state of consciousness.
The leader of the activist is a mainline SJW and a witch. Given the odd events, I've begun to wonder if she did a working of some sort.
If so, I have to credit her with being an incompetent magician as well as an incompetent activist - the group has fractured apart with none of its wounds healed, and no one can stand to be around her for long, last time I checked.
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Date: 2018-10-21 05:09 am (UTC)Fasting vs venting
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Date: 2018-10-21 04:30 pm (UTC)The Catholics aren't the only folks who use their masses. Great Classical Masses, particularly Requiems, are a staple of the performance hall. The musicians may or may not believe or even understand the words, but you put three-hundred people-odd on stage for Dias Irae, etc, and there's definitely some power there.
Would the energies from those performances end up at the direction of the Catholic egregor, since the music came from its adherents?
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Date: 2018-10-21 05:55 pm (UTC)But then I suppose Mr Hughes thinks the Tarot are simply useful symbols rather than symbols of spirits of power. In either case - bad move; as C K Chesterton said "Children are innocent are prefer justice, adults ... prefer mercy."
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Date: 2018-10-22 12:06 am (UTC)I think you're quite right about Hughes. He's a victim of the common modern delusion that symbols mean whatever you want them to mean -- in technical terms, that they aren't symbols, just signs -- and so he keeps getting clobbered. It's as though he decided that the words "punch me in the face" actually meant "give me twenty bucks," went around saying those words to people, and kept on being surprised when people hit him!
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Date: 2018-10-22 12:07 am (UTC)Red and Blue (Color)...
Date: 2018-10-22 02:50 am (UTC)I remember looking at many of the old electoral maps (before 1990, or sometime around them) and I remember how the Democrats used to be the Red party and the Republicans the Blue party on the maps. Then, definitely since 2000 the colors were switched – Republicans are Red, the Democrats Blue.
Now I can understand that there's a bit of geographical consistency to the change (Red for South, Blue for New England and Great Lakes...). However, since Red is the color of passion and power (blood) while Blue is the color of calm and peace (sky) I can't help but wonder whether there was some canny magic in the background to change the perception of the colors to give power to the Right.
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Date: 2018-10-22 04:22 pm (UTC)Now I'm wondering if it is coincidence that the Crucible starts at the hour and day of Mars? Huuum? And that run uphill to the rising sun is a pretty nice piece of stage management for an initiation as well.
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Date: 2018-10-30 02:23 am (UTC)http://saintmarthatlm.blogspot.com/2018/10/saint-patricks-lorica-for-protection.html It's the full form of St Patricks Breastplate, and it's really clearly calling on the heavenly powers for protection.
This discussion made it clearer that this is an invocation, so thank you all and especially you, Archdruid.
SamChevre