Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 199

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

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Riding the waves of deception

[(Anonymous)]

In https://miri.substack.com/p/riding-the-waves-of-deception, Miri Anne Finch presents the mechanics of propaganda and how it is used to smooth the way for the agenda du jour beginning with a long-running and highly promoted kidnapping story in the UK.

"...when the Madeleine McCann story first hit the headlines, there were two narratives surrounding it:

1) The official story: Madeleine was abducted by a predator, just as her parents said.
2) The official conspiracy theory: Madeleine was not abducted, her parents killed her and invented the abduction story to cover it up.

However, nobody at that time that I am aware of suggested a third option: that Madeleine was neither abducted nor killed, but rather, the whole story was a staged, special ops intelligence production, performed by crisis actors in order to propagandise the public (which, as regular readers know, is the conclusion I've come to about the Madeleine McCann case)."

...

"This third option has developed, because, over the years, it has become increasingly apparent that most major media events have two controlled narratives that run simultaneously:

1) The official story (for instance, Covid is a terrifying deadly plague originating from bats) and;
2) The official conspiracy theory (Covid is a lab leak from China).

The establishment controls both of these scripts, with its overt assets such as TV newscasters and politicians pushing the former narrative. Simultaneously, its controlled opposition agents, like high-profile "alternative" journalists and podcasters, push the latter.

We the audience, meanwhile, are just supposed to argue endlessly about 1) and 2), therefore keeping us firmly distracted from 3) - the actual truth (as per "the pandemic", that there was no Covid)."

...

"...upon closer inspection, it tends to become very quickly apparent that many/most high-profile media events are, in fact, not real, and have, to greater or lesser extents, been staged. Sometimes acted out using real people, sometimes dispensing with real people and using AI. Do real people sometimes get hurt? Yes, real people do sometimes get hurt on movie sets (hence why high-profile actors will use stunt doubles, to minimise the risk of harm to themselves). They're still movie sets, though.

These events are staged by the establishment in order to push certain political agendas, and to manufacture the consent of the public for what the overlords want. We can be sure about that, because these dramatic, high-octane events always just so happen to coalesce with an agenda the overlords are trying to push.

The Liverpool car attack, for instance, dovetails precisely with the war on cars, and cars as "lethal weapons". "It's not safe to have them on out streets, we need a lot more restrictions on private vehicle ownership, and eventually, an outright ban altogether!"

Re: Riding the waves of deception

[the_arcane_archivist]

I noticed this almost 15 years ago, and also reported here on the open thread.

There are two alternatives made up, with details so unclear as two make the differences between the two versions very volatile, so much that people fall into one of the two categories almost randomly. It is some sort of narrative illusion, if it's based on a real case at some point is not even relevant. As the adage goes, "Never let a good crisis go to waste."

The narrative is made up by spin artists as you said, but the details are crafted so that it polarizes the option based on perception defect. What is crucial to the narrative as to have very few cues, that are hammered continuously.

The most clear examples are the optical illusions that polarizes two options, and make the other side think that: how can they see that version because it's obviously this version.

Best examples are, spinning ballerina, some people randomly see it spinning from left to right, others in the other way:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinning_dancer

The illusion derives from the lack of visual cues for depth. For instance, as the dancer's arms move from viewer's left to right, it is possible to view her arms passing between her body and the viewer (that is, in the foreground of the picture, in which case she would be circling counterclockwise on her right foot) and it is also possible to view her arms as passing behind the dancer's body (that is, in the background of the picture, in which case she is seen circling clockwise on her left foot).

or this dress that some people see as blue and black, and some as gold and white:


https://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2015/feb/27/science-thedress-colour-illusion-the-dress-blue-black-gold-white

The internet is now made up by people firmly in two camps: the white and gold, and the blue and black – with each thinking the other is completely wrong.

But Ron Chrisley, director of the Centre for Research in Cognitive Science at the University of Sussex, believes that the problem mainly lies in the fact that everyone has forgotten we are dealing with an illusion.

Re: Riding the waves of deception

[the_arcane_archivist]

How do they know which is which when creating the narrative? They don't! So before internet the work was mostly derivative.

But with internet, things got simpler since some platforms had like and dislike, the data collectors, knew the kind of narratives that split people in half likes and half dislikes.

It dawned on me that this kind of work is derivative of Giordano Bruno's work on eros De vinculis in genere, likes and dislikes, "amore" (love) and "odio" (hate),. The work is explained well by Ioan Petru Culianu in his book Eros and Magic in the Renaissance.


Since February 24, 2016 when facebook added different reactions they, the spin doctors, could tune the narratives into even more nuances...

Then they could use emojis to deduct emotional reaction. Now they can even scrap comments with AI to see this kind of narratives.

I asked the AI if they could generate this kind of narrative:

He entered the cabin and saw the chair tipped over, a rope swinging from the beam. On the floor lay a knife and a broken stool.

One said: he cut himself down after the stool broke.
Another said: he was hanged, and someone staged a rescue too late.

The body was gone.

Re: Riding the waves of deception

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm. I see the figure spinning both ways, alternating between the two very clearly. Anyone else?

Re: Riding the waves of deception

[the_arcane_archivist]

I can see it too if I concentrate first a few seconds on the spinning reflection.

Re: Riding the waves of deception

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, if I blink a few times I can get it to appear to go in the opposite direction.

Re: Riding the waves of deception

[(Anonymous)]

I will and can never see that dress as anything other than blue and gold(ish). Where is the white? I can see how people might think the gold is black as it looks like it probably is black but has been overexposed. But the blue bits as white? That is utterly bizzare, there is literally a frame of reference right next to the dress in the blown out white bit of the image.

Re: Riding the waves of deception

[the_arcane_archivist]

Beyond the dress, the point is proven how polarising this whole thing can be... to make two sides.

At some point I think I was with the phone in the sun and with the gloss of the screen, I saw the dress as white and golden... That's when was my revelation about this whole issue...

Re: Riding the waves of deception

[(Anonymous)]

"2) The official conspiracy theory (Covid is a lab leak from China)."

Fully agree with this. Here in Australia, the "alternative" journalist was Shari Markson, a presenter for Sky News. She was able to get a book published and articles published in The Australian newspaper. She was able to interview Donald Trump about the lab leak theory, as well as Robert Kadlec and anonymous scientists in the US intelligence community. This in an environment where there was some major propaganda and censorship going on, and where people were being warned off from "conspiracy theories".

It's interesting that since then, no other investigative journalist (here in Oz at least) seems to be interested in pursuing the lab leak theory. Because in a normal media landscape, you would expect multiple journalists to be looking into a story like this. Of course, covid revealed that the media was just a propaganda operation, and the media down here continues in it's role as the sales and marketing arm of big pharma by pumping out endless fear-mongering stories about the waves of flu, covid, and RSV.