I'm the one who asked a few questions last week about CoP, and if you would indulge me further, I have a few more today.
1) GRH for planets vs Spheres? A GIRH for Venus or for Netzach would presumably use the same hexagram tracing, hexagram color, and vibrated Divine Names. Aside from being fueled by different intentions from the operator, what difference would there be between the two rituals?
2. This one concerns the QC ritual as a framing around other rituals. a) As I understand, every pentagram ritual begins and ends with its own QC, so LBRP-GIRP would look like QC-LBRP-QC-QC-GIRP-QC. Is this correct? b) CoP states that during a LBRP-LBRH combo, the QC prior to the LBRH is replaced with the IAO signs. Is there a similar change when the LBRH is followed by the LBRP (as during a closing ceremony)? For example, QC-LBRH-IAO signs-QC-LBRP-QC.
3. The MP ritual and GIRP/H largely seem to take care of the invocatory side of ritual magic, leaving me to wonder what purpose is served by the LIRP/H rituals. Most books seem to only have students practice these two rituals to familiarize them with variants of the pentagram/hexagram formula and to learn the 'feel' of their energies (a valuable learning experience to be sure), only for the rituals to later be shelved as the MP and Greater rituals are introduced. My question; do intermediate and advanced ceremonial magicians ever have a reason to use the LIRP/H?
4. One of the preliminary chapters of CoP states that the symbolic planets are typically used in ritual to affect the astral level and that the symbolic elements are typically used to affect reality below the astral. Am I correct, then, in assuming that the difference between the LBRH and the LBRP is that the first is an astral banisher and the second is an etheric banisher (as opposed to the macrocosmic/microcosmic banishing distinction that I've heard some claim)?
As always, thank you for your time and for hosting Magic Monday.
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CoP cont.
Date: 2025-05-19 08:25 am (UTC)I'm the one who asked a few questions last week about CoP, and if you would indulge me further, I have a few more today.
1) GRH for planets vs Spheres? A GIRH for Venus or for Netzach would presumably use the same hexagram tracing, hexagram color, and vibrated Divine Names. Aside from being fueled by different intentions from the operator, what difference would there be between the two rituals?
2. This one concerns the QC ritual as a framing around other rituals.
a) As I understand, every pentagram ritual begins and ends with its own QC, so LBRP-GIRP would look like QC-LBRP-QC-QC-GIRP-QC. Is this correct?
b) CoP states that during a LBRP-LBRH combo, the QC prior to the LBRH is replaced with the IAO signs. Is there a similar change when the LBRH is followed by the LBRP (as during a closing ceremony)? For example, QC-LBRH-IAO signs-QC-LBRP-QC.
3. The MP ritual and GIRP/H largely seem to take care of the invocatory side of ritual magic, leaving me to wonder what purpose is served by the LIRP/H rituals. Most books seem to only have students practice these two rituals to familiarize them with variants of the pentagram/hexagram formula and to learn the 'feel' of their energies (a valuable learning experience to be sure), only for the rituals to later be shelved as the MP and Greater rituals are introduced. My question; do intermediate and advanced ceremonial magicians ever have a reason to use the LIRP/H?
4. One of the preliminary chapters of CoP states that the symbolic planets are typically used in ritual to affect the astral level and that the symbolic elements are typically used to affect reality below the astral. Am I correct, then, in assuming that the difference between the LBRH and the LBRP is that the first is an astral banisher and the second is an etheric banisher (as opposed to the macrocosmic/microcosmic banishing distinction that I've heard some claim)?
As always, thank you for your time and for hosting Magic Monday.
JR