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Twilight of Pluto Midnight is just a few minutes away and so it's time to launch a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism, and with certain exceptions noted below, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note:  Any question or comment received after that point will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted.  If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 341,928th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.3 of The Magic Monday FAQ here

Also:
 I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says.  And further:  I've decided that questions about getting goodies from spirits are also permanently off topic here. The point of occultism is to develop your own capacities, not to try to bully or wheedle other beings into doing things for you. I've discussed this in a post on my blog.

The
 image? I field a lot of questions about my books these days, so I've decided to do little capsule summaries of them here, one per week.  This is my sixth-eighty published book, and -- like some of the other things I've written -- it landed me in a certain amount of hot water. I noticed, not long after I started doing the kind of intermediate astrology that involves tracking transits of planets across natal chart positions, that most of the resulting predictions worked very well, but that those involving Pluto didn't. I then noticed that political and economic predictions involving Pluto -- not mine, in this case -- also flopped spectacularly. That launched me into a research project that convinced me that Pluto is in fact not a planet, but that it functioned like one in birth charts and mundane charts during the short period while astronomers mistook it for one. That led me to write The Twilight of Pluto, which talks about the complex way that planetary discoveries and downgradings relate to astrological prediction. 

The reason this got me into hot water is that Pluto has a huge astrological fan club. It's weird; no other planet has that kind of frankly addictive emotional hold on people. No other planet sees people make one false prediction after based on its movements, and just keep on doing it, without ever noticing that they're making fools of themselves. I didn't get into that in this book, but Pluto fans took offense anyway because I dissed their favorite planet. The book's sales have been slow, though a remarkable number of people seem to know about it. I still think it makes a valid case, I don't use Pluto in my political astrology...and, ahem, my predictions are more accurate than those who do. If you're interested, you can get copies here in the US and at your favorite book outlet elsewhere. 

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Bookshop logoI've also had quite a few people over the years ask me where they should buy my books, and here's the answer. Bookshop.org is an alternative online bookstore that supports local bookstores and authors, which a certain gargantuan corporation doesn't, and I have a shop there, which you can check out here. Please consider patronizing it if you'd like to purchase any of my books online.

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With that said, have at it!

***This Magic Monday is now closed, and no further comments will be put through. See you all next week!***
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Re: Glamour or something like that?

Date: 2025-03-03 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Not the OP: if I may - my confidence is quite okay as long as there aren’t too many mirrors around… put me in a place with mirrors and it wilts away. Any suggestions?

Re: The Body’s Four Elements

Date: 2025-03-03 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is a large question, with rather loose boundaries.

First, the "rainbow body", or the transformation of the body at death, is a feature not only of certain sorts of Buddhism, but also Taoism. Of the several sorts of Taoist immortals, some leave nothing behind except nails, hair, and perhaps a kind of film or residue). And not all Vajrayana/Dzogchen rainbow body transformations are absolute: in some cases the body is greatly diminished or otherwise transformed. It also seems to exist in certain Indian subcontinent traditions.

Analogous to this are the products of what might be called "holy suicide" or "attainment suicide", in which practitioners will adopt a regimen that will gradually embalm their bodies while they are alive, with the result that their cadavers are lighter, incorruptible, and so on. This is documented at least in Taoist contexts in China, and in certain Buddhist contexts in Japan. No doubt other examples exist. Certainly some of the Taoist mineral elixirs can give this result. Yogic suicide is also documented in Indian/tantric contexts -- from the more gross (throwing oneself off a cliff) to the more subtle (meditative dissolution of the energetic structure of the body).

There is at least some indication that the "rainbow body" or "light body" cultural complex came into central Asia, and thus into Tibet and points east, in connection with the spread Nestorian and Manichaean influence -- see Francis V. Tiso's Rainbow Body and Resurrection: Spiritual Attainment, the Dissolution of the Material Body, and the Case of Khenpo A Chö. Tisot provides an erudite survey of the history, and suggests, not at all mischievously, that the first documented case of this transformation is widely celebrated in a holiday coming up in about a month.

By now there are a scad of books and other items about rainbow body practices, and teachers of the same, to which one needs to apply what is sometimes called "the first virtue of the path" -- discrimination, or critical evaluation.

LeGrand Cinq-Mars


Re: Aphantasia

Date: 2025-03-03 11:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] not_gandalf
Also doesn't help that my right hand is splinted currently (don't ask), and so my typing is more dyslexic than usual.

Re: Cultivation of Virtues in Western Occultism

Date: 2025-03-03 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks anyway. One thing I think I know is: in Britain at least, the otherwise future trend-setters were literally blown up - a larger fraction of nobles died than of commoners (if one looks up Adrian Carton de Wiart, one's sympathy may be limited, though).

Re: The Body’s Four Elements

Date: 2025-03-03 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In regard to this, I find the above very relevant for myself currently.

1. My old guru was an example of someone who was uniquely himself, no matter what was happening or whomever else was around him. Sort of like Gurdjieff attesting that a person treading the path has to go against the grain of the world, “against God”.

2. In my own system, the etheric body is attached to the organ of the mind (Sanskrit “manas”), and it is the intellectual center and body that we lack, but need to develop. — I have been noticing more and more often that individual people in society subtly influence each other on an etheric/mental plane. My current task has been to remain myself, emotionally/intellectually/spiritually, amongst the inner influences around me.

3. I would assume that, as the above writer says, we should create as positive a mental sphere around us as we can.

Universal Gnostic Anthology

Date: 2025-03-03 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Maybe Magic Monday isn't the best place to post this question, but when you sought suggestions for the Universal Gnostic Anthology, did you end up getting the replies/suggestions you were hoping for?

Re: Ecosophia Prayer List

Date: 2025-03-03 11:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jenniferkobernik
We would appreciate prayers for our new baby. She is doing very well but unfortunately will need a minor surgery for a tongue tie that’s interfering with breastfeeding.

May Jennifer’s newborn daughter Eleanor be blessed with optimal growth and development, and may her tongue tie surgery be smooth and successful with a full recovery.

Thank you! And thank you again to all who prayed for us during pregnancy.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-03-03 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It seems to me that this feeling of anger might just be the Watcher at the Threshold, and not the angel. In fact, given the awareness above about subconscious issues, I think it is a strong likelyhood.

Re: Ceres and Romanticism

Date: 2025-03-03 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Out of curiosity, do you think that once people get past over-rating Pluto, that Pluto - or maybe the Pluto-Charon system - will have some utility in astrology, if treated appropriately for their true status?

(no subject)

Date: 2025-03-03 11:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] slithytoves123

Is it just me or have questions about the advisability of dealing with demons gotten more frequent lately?

That could be a bad sign (more people being tempted to deal with demons) but it could also be a good sign (people are hesitating before they just jump in).

Re: Q

Date: 2025-03-03 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
MOST plants, that's a very interesting caveat!

So, people who have NDEs and report visions that are presumed to be of the afterlife (aka astral plane) often talk about green fields, flowers, etc. Presumably these are not the souls of grasses hanging about, but artificial simulacra -- set design, so to speak, for what those people would find a good "wish fulfillment dream" to use Dion Fortune's term. But PETS seen there, on the other hand, are developed enough to have an astral form so it really is good ol' Fluffy and not the astral equivalent of a robo-pet. Is that right?

Re: Cultivation of Virtues in Western Occultism

Date: 2025-03-04 12:01 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Maybe the slaughter and maiming of a generation of young men in the trenches left the survivors feeling that old concepts of honor and loyalty no longer quite fit into the industrial war machine.

Re: Blocked energy centers

Date: 2025-03-04 12:01 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
For this purpose I have found helpful Barbara Brennan's Hands of Light.

(I have been studying Desda Zuckerman's more complex schema in Your Sacred Anatomy, which seems to me promising, but I can't say that I've yet grokked it.)

SDPM

(no subject)

Date: 2025-03-04 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thereassuringweightofagun
Hello JMG,

Thank you for your answer regarding the question which school or group of works are complementary to The Way of the Golden Section in terms of learning magic.

You recommended The Druid Magic Handbook. Could you point to other schools compatible with The Way of the Golden Section?

As always, thanks for your help!
Edited Date: 2025-03-04 12:04 am (UTC)

Re: The subconscious/The Shadow

Date: 2025-03-04 12:23 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you for the advice, I will pick up a copy of that book for trying to understand my dreams.

I see that it is a reasonable price for used copies, I still get sticker shock at how expensive it is for used copies of some of the books I see referenced on here.

Wrt 2) I guess I am still misunderstanding the roles of the elements in some of this work. I would have thought that Fire would help lift the hidden stuff into a more conscious statebif I am overindulging in self-reflection, but I guess that is backwards. The volatile elements represent the parts of manifestation that are closest to the Unmanifest, ie the parts of the mind closeat to the unconscious?

(no subject)

Date: 2025-03-04 12:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jruss
For what it’s worth Pathfinder Astrology has predicted NATO will put boots on the ground with Russia and it will not go well for them Europeans.

Re: The Body’s Four Elements

Date: 2025-03-04 12:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
3. I don't know who you're referring to, but I would say that, if there is a version of the concept of "positive" that would make your assumption true, it would be quite a subtle concept. Beyond a certain intensity of cultivating "positivity" according to whatever concept was your best guess at the moment, you might not be able to predict how any subtleties you'd gotten wrong might blow up in your face if you went any higher with the intensity. In that case, it would probably be better to give up there, and develop something else instead.

I'm given to understand that deities are safer to do that kind of cultivation with than a concept like "positive" is, but I'm not sure how to relate to that thought.

... That reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask about something the Charismatic Christian Agnes Sanford reported in her autobiography "Sealed Orders", about four different incidents where someone involved in Spiritualist mediumism unexpectedly died shortly after she prayed with them or for them. Guessing from the Christian-inflected explanation she relayed, in the terminology I see around here, it would maybe have something to do with how badly solar/telluric conflicts tend to go in a "state of nature", or maybe with how low-grade the chthonic powers associated with Spiritualism tended to be (at least at the time toward the end of the movement, around 1930-1950). However, the passage is several pages long and it would take a while to condense it into a single comment to ask about that in more detail. But it was a category of situations where bringing in more of a generally-speaking good divine influence actually made things at least superficially much worse.

Re: The subconscious/The Shadow

Date: 2025-03-04 12:37 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you for the reply Jeff. I enjoyed your blog post in response to some questions you got a couple weeks ago about your personal experience with this stuff, your answer about the fears induced by a Christian culture regarding damnation resonated with me despite not having a particularly religious upbringing. In fact, your willingness to use your "real" identity, along with Mr. Greer's, is what prompted me to start using my birth name here.

I've been trying to practice a form of your advice in 1) related to myself since I noticed this pattern, namely, that when I start getting in trouble I isolate myself, so I've been trying to consciously engage with humanity, but this is still so recent I am not sure about results. I will look at this resources though. I especially like the sound of that book you mention, as I suspect that much like many men of the last couple generations I have insecurities about my masculinity.(well, I know I have insecurities, can't speak for anyone else).

Wrt 3) I am hoping to complete my CGD Ovate initiation within a couple weeks, and I imagine there will be more of that material in the next grade, so maybe I can experiment more.

4) I would say my problem is the exact opposite. I am far too prone to lapse into inaction via getting stuck in imagined scenarios, and I have always loved baths, probably too much if I'm honest. In thinking about it, it is out of character in some ways, as I am Aquarian by horoscope so Airy in many ways, but baths are my secret pleasure. Somehow I repress the emotional stuff anyway.

Thanks for the thoughts.

Geoff

Female Occultists

Date: 2025-03-04 12:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/occult-women-history-spiritualism-witch?variation=B&utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%203%2F3&_kx=z7ttDTHOWi1xO4I2ZpE_NjQkE_Hg0t5KFgyTeNVc_5s.UUnqkC

—Princess Cutekitten

Re: Ceres and Romanticism

Date: 2025-03-04 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] brendhelm
I would imagine that if there is life on Europa, its primary astrological influences, in order, would be:

1. Jupiter itself (to whom I believe Europa is tidally locked)
2. The Sun and the three other Galilean moons
3. The other true planets
4. The other Jovian moons
5. Dwarf planets
6. Asteroids etc.

Re: Upper Planes and Flames

Date: 2025-03-04 12:39 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hmmmm. Your comment just reminded me that researchers into ghostly phenomena have noted that badly haunted houses end up burning down. Just a little data point.

Ron M
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