Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 159
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ecosophia
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-22 06:48 pm (UTC)As to the "change of personality" - well, that was the thing that put me off the whole business of using a pill for contraceptive purposes - it was a killjoy for me, and what is the point of killing your joy in order to have your joy? Made no sense to me, so I gave it up as a bad job after a month or two, somewhere in my 20's.
As a result of my own experience, I also have grave doubts about how "revolutionary" the pill was from the contraceptive point of view. There really are MANY, MANY other options, most of which do not totally re-organise a person's physiology, and some of them have a very long heritage, indeed!
I don't actually have figures to hand, but I'm beginning to suspect that the woman who is taking the pill exclusively for contraceptive purposes is a rarer creature than the woman/girl who is taking it for "regulation of periods".
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-23 12:35 am (UTC)Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-23 04:29 am (UTC)Once I saw a sea sponge in a museum exhibition and according to the placard they have been used as natural barriers to conception in certain cultures. That is the extent of it... warnings against peppermint oil in pregnancy make me wonder how effective it might be and how it could be used.
If you could provide any pointers or links on these topics or suggest any search terms (so many I have tried have led nowhere useful) I'd be very grateful.
- iridescent scintillating elver
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-23 06:41 pm (UTC)In my case it turned out that I was deficient in omega 3 oils and taking flax oil did it for me. The same enzymes are used for processing both types of oil and converting the flax oil into a useful form reduced the over production of inflammatory prostaglandins.
If you are going to consider this approach I would just add a caution. Polyunsaturated fats can go rancid in the body if you don't have enough antioxidants in your diet to keep them stable.
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-23 08:57 pm (UTC)But short story:
1) Contraception. Personally, I got by very well throughout my 20's and 30's using barrier methods - diaphragms and condoms. It wasn't until my late 30's, though, that I realised on how few days of the month I was actually fertile. I then learned how to track the state of my own fertility. I used temperature charts initially until I got more confident in my own "sensing" of personal signs like presence or absence of fertile mucous, the open/closed state of my cervix, the high/low state of my cervix and etc. Once my fingers could sense what the temperature charts confirmed, then I knew for sure on which days there was no chance at all that I could become pregnant, on which days I needed no "method" at all. On those days on which I could become pregnant, I was happy to resort to a barrier method which had the advantage of doing the one thing necessary to prevent conception - prevent sperm from reaching fertile egg. (This ancient knowledge is attested to, btw, in the Bible, as what was known as "the sin of Onan" confirms). By this time, though, I was in a steady relationship with my now husband, and his active participation in preventing conception WITH me (until such time as we agreed we would try for a child), indisputably made the whole issue much more secure and easy. In place of a barrier method, he could "make like Onan" during my fertile days, and this worked extremely well for us.
As a major in anthropology, in the long ago time when I attended college, I became familiar with accounts of societies which held and maintained extensive knowledge of the contraceptive properties of herbs within and among initiatory societies of women. I did not have to resort to herbal contraception, but I always knew that that whole, large, field of options also existed.
2. Dysmenorrhea - this is a tough ball of wax, and has a number of causes, but I do treat it very successfully in my clinic using the framings and tools I have learned from Traditional Chinese Medicine. I do think it is worth finding a good, local acupuncturist for this kind of work. I would expect to see much better results, at least for THIS condition, than any pharmaceutical intervention I know of.
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-24 03:30 am (UTC)I also know the field of herbal options exists, possibly suppressed by pharmaceutical/commercial interests as is much on other uses of herbs... where are the books? Not at my local library, not at the doctor's, nor on the internet afaict. So look more closely into anthropology, huh?
Acupuncture helped my dysmenorrhoea and menorrhagia as long as I was receiving treatment. In this country it isn't a frugal form of treatment.
Likewise naturopathic preparations, albeit only for a few months.
I had heard of omega 6 but not omega 3 for helping it. Thanks Claire!
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-25 07:20 pm (UTC)Here is an article or two that might help start you down the road.
http://www.medherb.com/Therapeutics/Female_-_Herbs_and_Dysmenorrhea_.htm
http://jmp.ir/article-1-938-en.html
You might also try further searching within each of those websites.
As to acupuncture, almost everyone might obtain some relief from painful cramps using Sp6, Lv3 and/or LI4... location information for these should be easy to find online. Likewise, the cell salt Mag Phos, and indeed, magnesium supplements may help to alleviate cramping pain.
Of course, when I offer treatments, I must take a history, and ask questions like does pain occur before period/during period/both before and during period/after period is finished. Is it located in central abdomen, sides of abdomen, lower back or some/all of above. Is it stabbing, cramping, throbbing, dull. and etc. This is because painful periods may be due to stagnation (either qi or blood or both), due to cold retention, or due to deficiency. Traditionally many women in China would take the patent herbal remedy Tao Hong Si Wu Tang Wan during their periods, or starting with onset of cramps and finishing when either cramping or period finishes.
Menorraghia, is a different topic of its own. It also requires much investigation in order to determine if it is caused by stagnant blood, heat in the blood or deficiency. All of these will need different approaches, and using the wrong treatment could aggravate the problem. Therefore I will say no more on this point, but certainly hope that you find the help you need!
I do believe in making acupuncture affordable. So do these people. You could check their "clinic finder" to see if there is a community acupuncture clinic, operating on a sliding scale, near you. https://pocacoop.com/
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-23 04:51 pm (UTC)I'm also rather curious how effective it actually is. I accidentally got both women I dated in high school pregnant, despite both being on the pill. They both chose to get abortions, refused to talk about it with anyone else, and asked me not to say anything to anyone, a promise I've kept aside from anonymous comments like this.
I've long wondered just how effective the pill actually is, as opposed to the marketing, because based on my personal experience it does not seem like it works at all as a form of contraceptive.
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-23 09:02 pm (UTC)Imagine how awkward it would be to discover that its "safety" and "effectiveness" are no greater than that of other pharmaceutical products whose "safety" and "effectiveness" we are not allowed to question or doubt... ;)
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-24 01:43 am (UTC)There is also the human error and the fact that a young and healthy body will do what millions of years of evolution have primed it to do. For women, learning to track fertility is a great thing. Relying on it for birth control? Well let's just say it's best used by women for whom an unplanned pregnancy is not a disaster. Anyone else should have a back up plan.
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-24 03:45 am (UTC)Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-24 10:16 pm (UTC)Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-25 07:44 pm (UTC)It is not so much a "fallacy" as a bias as to which sex you are choosing to look at. Presuming he is healthy, a man is fertile every single day, but even the healthiest woman is only fertile for a few days in any month. So, you are right. If I wanted to guage the effectiveness of any contraceptive method, I *personally* would choose to evaluate it with regard to the woman's (occasional) fertile days, but I think they are mainly evaluated with regard to the man's (all of them) fertile days.
"For women, learning to track fertility is a great thing. Relying on it for birth control? Well let's just say it's best used by women for whom an unplanned pregnancy is not a disaster. Anyone else should have a back up plan."
I will push back against this strongly, Claire.
In my humble opinion, learning to track your own fertility (and then choose the birth control method(s) most appropriate for her and her partner in the context of that knowledge) is the ONLY reliable way for a woman to CONFIDENTLY predict ovulation, prevent/promote conception and confidently be in charge OF her own fertility.
Provided that:
1. her acquired self-knowledge is true and confirmed in several ways as she learns to track herself
2. her will and intention is clear, honest and undivided
Everything else is outsourcing the whole problem to someone/something else, who/what does not have our best interests at heart. And you will STILL need a back up plan.
When you can track your own fertility and ALSO have a partner who is WITH you in relation to the will and intention to prevent a conception arising from your lovemaking, you will be in the strongest possible place from which to ensure it does not happen against your will.
There really ARE only a few days in any month when a WOMAN can conceive. Knowing how to identify them makes ALL the difference.
In my experience, though, none of this is being taught to girls or women in any systematic or useful way.
I do what I can in my own clinic.
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-25 11:21 pm (UTC)As far as the point about sex bias I'm not arguing but I was talking about conception which is limited to the times when both are fertile.
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-26 09:14 am (UTC)(A totally non-contraceptive example of what I mean was a recent interaction with a person who was telling me about their life pattern of overwork, over-extension, never being able to say no, and who suffers many ills. When they rhetorically ask - in relation to some of the ills - "why me?" I say, have you not just been telling me "why you?" They respond - "sometimes I just wish my boss would close down the business, then I could rest". I'm like - "you realise you have just asked the universe to do something that would affect a large number of people, in possibly harmful ways, to save you having to make, and enact, some personal decisions about your own worklife?")
And of course you are right, too. And yet, a man who is not in a committed relationship (and may therefore not wish to undertake deep conversations with every potential sex partner to determine how fertile she is on a given day) DOES need to think of himSELF as being fertile every single day, and approach the issue from that point of view. Whereas a woman, in or out of a committed relationship, needs to know, and act on, the "fertile" status of each of her days.
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-23 07:49 pm (UTC)I had the same intense anxiety in early pregnancy. Not that surprising since the pill is meant to simulate pregnancy, and gives you similar hormones.
-Ochre Shabby Sea Serpent
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-26 05:12 am (UTC)Thanks all for the frank discussion and especially to you, Scotlyn, for aalways generously sharing so much of your thinking, wisdom and knowledge with us.
pocacoop doesn't seem to list any clinics in Aus - no surprise.
Like Tamar I hope to be able to help younger women with what I learn.
Re: The Drug Pushing Industrial Complex
Date: 2024-08-26 05:05 pm (UTC)Try googling "community acupuncture" or "multibed acupuncture" - maybe you will find people with similar ideas in Australia! :)