Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 150

[ecosophia]

We are now winding up the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: But wait - there's MORE!

[charlieobert]

Is it just me, or is the messaging around bird flu a lot more fragmented and incoherent?

It seems like the covid media messaging was pretty well organized, even monolithic. I don't get that sense from the bird flu messaging. It's like the narrative is shattering into a bunch of fractured shards.

Re: But wait - there's MORE!

[scotlyn]

Funny that you say that. The only IRL conversation I've had with anyone at all lately about birds, was with a patient who feeds wild birds in his garden (as do I) comparing suppliers of economically priced bird seedc. Maybe I will make my birdfood offerings more consciously bird-health-affirming. :) :)

Re: But wait - there's MORE!

[slinky_weasel]

I just had a visit from an old friend who said they had recently found over a dozen wild birds dead in her neighborhood. Which is another data point that there might be a flu that affects birds. Okay.

But then she said one of the neighbors got sick right after that, so it must be the bird flu. A highly jabbed neighbor, I might add. That's where she lost me. But that's the thinking process out there.

Re: But wait - there's MORE!

[mistyfriday]

Over a year ago I saw a roach scurry under my washer machine. I bought a tube of combat roach killer and put some down near my water heater. A few days later I saw a dead bird in front of my house. I also saw that the lines of poison I put down in my garage were gone so I put down more. Another fews days passed and another bird that lived in the tree in my front yard died.

I realized that the birds had eaten poisoned roaches and died. I stopped putting poison out and I haven't found a dead bird or any roaches since.

It's possible that a bunch of birds died from bird flu in a tight cluster. It's also possible someone decided to take care of a bug infestation without considering the food chain those bugs support.

Re: But wait - there's MORE!

[slinky_weasel]

Where she lives, that's definitely possible.

And good for you for giving up the poison route. That just doesn't seem right to me. I've got a bamboo infestation in my yard, and people tell me the only solution it poison, but I just can't.