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MarsThis is an extremely busy spring in terms of mundane astrology, with two eclipses and two important outer planet conjunctions alongside the usual ingress charts.  As regular readers know, I've been posting political and economic predictions based on mundane astrology for some years now, using the SubscribeStar and Patreon subscription platforms, and every so often I make one of them a public post.

SaturnWell, it's that time again. Two days after the upcoming solar eclipse, on April 10, Mars and Saturn will be conjunct.  In traditional astrology these two planets are considered malefic -- that's a fancy way of saying "bad news" -- and their conjunctions, which happen every two to three years, warn of crises, disasters, and sometimes wars. I've just posted my delineation of this conjunction, discussing what it predicts for the United States, and this is a public post, free for anyone to read. You can take it in on SubscribeStar here --

https://www.subscribestar.com/john-michael-greer

-- and on Patreon here --

https://www.patreon.com/posts/mars-saturn-2024-101456453

Thank You!

Date: 2024-04-01 03:37 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you, JMG. You are a generous soul! I'm a SubscribeStar patron, and I am grateful that you are sharing this amazing information with all. I've sent the link to my sisters, and hope it is shared widely. It's a blessing to have an idea of the territory ahead of us before we launch into what promises to be an absolutely epic (in a bad way) time. Seat belts on!

OtterGirl

Minor typo

Date: 2024-04-01 03:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] slithytoves123
Thank you for this. Concerning, but I appreciate the heads up.

One minor typo: in the paragraph for the 9th house, you accidentally call it the 8th hour in the sentence beginning "The 8th house, however, also indicates events at a great distance..."
Edited (minor typo of my own) Date: 2024-04-01 03:56 am (UTC)

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Date: 2024-04-01 01:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tritumi
Thanks very much. Traveling internationally on 4/9 crossing date line to 10th. Keeping the seat belt buckled for sure.

Prediction

Date: 2024-04-01 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dear Mr Greer

You state in your prediction that

“Whatever is indicated by this chart, it will arrive suddenly, and its implications may not be recognised for some time even after it becomes apparent that something is wrong.”

Given what you say about Public health and attempts to cover it up, it strikes me that this might be something to do with the covid vacs. We could be looking at a possible Gert Vanden Bossche scenario or the Vacs might give rise to a sudden increase in autoimmune diseases. The cause of what is happening might not be apparent for some time and the establishment will do all they can to cover it up. Something going wrong in the Ukraine is would be apparent and could not be covered up.

Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

I know that you are predicting that the UK could become involved in a war. The only thing that gives me hope if that I think it unlikely the UK would get involved in a war unless the US was involved as well. I just hope to god I am right about this.

Jasmine

Re: Prediction

Date: 2024-04-01 03:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drhooves
There are so many possible flashpoint catalyst scenarios around the world, it's difficult to pick just one. But Covid is as good a bet as any.

Jim Kunstler interviewed Dr. Gert Vanden Bossche last week, and a new podcast is posted on his main site, along with today's blog post on his main site and substack page. Vanden Bossche is still sticking with his nightmare outlook, in spite of his multiple failures in a "Chicken Little" impression. If it's just his timing that's off, he's been dismissed prematurely. I'm bothered by the fact that Covid's true origins (lab?) were never really pinned down.

A very interesting astrology post, JMG. As a side note, I think the astral plane is also getting more unstable, as it has several times in the last 4-5 years. I had two dreams weird and unusual dreams in the last three days - being chased by "police state" cronies and a Putin-looking leader screaming about "mutants" and the need for mass murder of them. To read your posts yesterday just added an edge on that....

Re: Prediction

Date: 2024-04-02 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] brendhelm
For what it's worth, I have had multiple dreams within the past month involving nuclear explosions. I live in an area that would likely be a target for such explosions in the event of full-scale nuclear war.

On the other hand, I also watched Oppenheimer in the last month, so it might just be that.
Edited Date: 2024-04-02 12:48 am (UTC)

Re: Prediction

Date: 2024-04-06 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Let's hope it's the movie!!!

I can remember being puzzled as I balanced on my knees face to the floor under my school desk 'practicing' for the Russian atomic bomb attack.
Talk about useless nonsense. I can't imagine parents being so zombified they didn't raise a ruckus.
Well back to imagination: I couldn't figure out how in the world it would help the Russians to bomb our small city.

But I don't remember dreaming about it. Maybe a gnawing conscious fear just lodged in my psyche.

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Date: 2024-04-01 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hello JMG and all.

Thank you for making this available to us non-subscribers. Now I'm not American, don't live in the US, but I'll share a reflection that this analysis brought up. Specifically, the part about the "information difficult to come by", leading (as it often does in our time) to much theorizing, speculation and ultimately confusion.
Reading this, I was instantly transported back to, and couldn't help thinking about, those weeks between say mid-February and late April 2020. Back then there was firing from seemingly all directions at once, a real brouhaha.
Of course the crisis then was truly global whereas this delineation is more US-focused. Still, gotta beef-up the info-consumption discipline, just in case!

~Thibault

A tie in (Perhaps)

Date: 2024-04-01 03:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] degringolade
Folks who are reading this might well go over to John Helmer's place and read his latest.

I am reminded of our host's long ago discussion of "The Gasoline War". War is essentially using violence to remove the opponent's ability to act independently of your wishes. That violence is merely utilizing energy and depriving the opponent the use of their energy. At least that is my way of thinking about it.

Helmer's article discusses the ramping up of attacks on the electric infrastructure. There is also news in the webs that discuss the attacks on the gas storage and distribution infrastructure of Ukraine.

https://johnhelmer.org/how-the-electric-war-is-redrawing-the-ukraine-map-in-black/

(no subject)

Date: 2024-04-01 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
How long does this forecast last?
one month?
6 months?
A year?

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Date: 2024-04-02 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] brendhelm
April 19, 2026 at 6:44 p.m. Eastern is the next one, in Aries and also conjunct Mercury, with the Sun less than two hours away from ingressing into Taurus and Uranus less than a week from entering Gemini.

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Date: 2024-04-02 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This sounds to me like it is astrological signal that the first (likely major) step down the ragged staircase of catabolic collapse is upon us?

Warning Warning

Date: 2024-04-01 05:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] degringolade
I spent some time today pondering(meditating?) on this post. I spent some time writing over at my place and I hope that our host will be kind and allow this shameless plug for what is written over there.

https://degringolade.dreamwidth.org/362748.html

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Date: 2024-04-01 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Looks like they are intentionally firing up the Large Hadron Collider on April 8. Wonder who could have inspired such an idea?

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Date: 2024-04-02 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Rod Serling on acid maybe?

Imagine a world so interconnected that one thing leads to another.

Episode 300: 'The Petri Dish'

A few notes

Date: 2024-04-02 12:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Im currently listening to this month's Astrology podcast
Others may be interested, definitely worth a listen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSS2ILJ41uc

They have mentioned, among other things, the appearance of a comet this month, a dead star that shows up every 80 odd years, and Arizona designating Pluto the state planet!

Helen in Oz

Re: A few notes

Date: 2024-04-02 04:54 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Trying to listen but they spent a half hour on Beyoncé without bringing up the Russian shooting at all and she talks with so much vocal fry that it sounds like an interview with a Dalek.

More inspiration to learn astrology on my own I guess

Re: A few notes

Date: 2024-04-02 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
haha

Yes, I can say i've never listened to a whole Beyonce song!
Chris is a bit of a techno utopian, the lady is a guest, as Austin Coppock, the usual other half is awaiting his first child's birth.

If you listen to Coppock's forecasts with Rune soup, you'll get more real world

Lots of young astrologers are on the "D.E.I." side for sure.

They also seem to lean towards Whole Signs, so you have to take that into account and generally seem to be somewhat Pluto obsessive.
Whether Pluto really is on the wane, I can't say, although I have read JMG's book - good read!

Perhaps that age cohort has a strong Pluto placement.


Many Thanks

Date: 2024-04-02 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Many thanks, JMG, for the astrological freebee. As a practitioner of Vedic astrology, I always find it interesting to see how closely these two different systems of divination come up with similar conclusions.

Being your nation next door, it should come as no surprise to you that predictions for Canada have much in common with the USA. The official leaders of our two nations are both in peril – though the sock puppet north of the border seems to be more in political peril than health peril. And in Canada, this conjunction and earlier solar eclipse indicate that the public health system will experience even further collapse, and our economy will really go into the toilet. This is the hand that we have been dealt with; now is a good final opportunity to batten the hatches and tie down everything on deck before the storm hits!

Ron M

Question

Date: 2024-04-02 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

I am very new to astrology, but is a coup consistent with your predictions?

When was the last one and what did it bring

Date: 2024-04-03 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Did the last one bring the Russian SMO?
From: (Anonymous)
I saw a couple of news about slowing down of Permian, as many followers of peak oil know fracking suffer from the red queen syndrome he had to run faster and faster just to stay where she is.


Permian was the only one region growing. I've seen discussions about new wells experiencing 70% declines a year.


Oil would certainly qualify for a crisis that will be dismissed at first, with all the rosy projections, a lot of people believing in abiotic oil, but I don't know if it qualifies for the astrological house and configuration.
From: (Anonymous)
The sudden increase of WTI Oil Price might point that things are going in that direction

https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CL&p=h
From: (Anonymous)
An oik crisis like in the '70s will certainly check a lot of the points:

- prezidential issues, Biden energy policy is not well supporten and his daining of the SPR was heavily criticizer
- transportation issues;
- labor class problems;


pretty much will check each of the exposed aspects to an extent;
From: (Anonymous)
It seems that Permian is in a conundrum.

It cannot produce more, it cannot stay on the same level, and it cannot decline without financially crashing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxMBQGBqOvc

From: (Anonymous)
I think the issue will come from energy, problems keep pilling up

https://ina.iq/eng/32126-mexicos-pemex-reports-fire-at-offshore-platform.html


Fire at Pemex as the Middle Easte is about to get hot... paired with Permian slowing down it will get the WTI oil in $100 a barrel in less than a week!

(no subject)

Date: 2024-04-03 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
O saw one of the comments suggesting internet, while internet is pretty resilient if the grid is up and some even with backup UPS with the grid interouption, routers and switches can stay a lot on UPS power and generators. Cloud is not so resilient.

One of the products of fracking is natural gas which was so abundant that it was flared, but in a situation of decline, it will go fast and the grid might be at risk.

(no subject)

Date: 2024-04-03 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I don't do mundane astrology, but I have looked at the eclipse, this, and the Jupiter-Uranus conjunction, and noticed all three have an awful lot of aspects shared with the most likely foundation chart for Canada. Does this suggest that whatever is about to happen is going to hit Canada lot harder than most other countries?

Web archive snapshot

Date: 2024-04-07 07:46 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I have a feeling that this will be confirmed as ominous so I made a snapshot of this page on archive.org just in case:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240407074329/https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/273158.html

From: (Anonymous)
I am Romanian so don't shoot the messenger if I don't get the politics very well.

But I have a big imagination is from the point of view of the start Biden or can it be that since the elections were really contested is Trump.

Something happening to Trump now could have catastrophic effects for US much worse than something happening to Biden who will be replaced swiftly with the vicepresident!

Tarot Spread on the Concealed Weakness

Date: 2024-04-08 04:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] happypanda
JMG Mars-Saturn Conjunction 2024 said:

A period of crisis and danger is indicated by this traditional warning sign, which predicts sudden trouble in foreign policy boiling up as carefully concealed weaknesses in America’s current condition become impossible to hide.

I did a 2 card spread that because of my special deck became a 3 card spread on the topic mentioned - the concealed weakness.

I asked what is going to be the follow up consequence for the U.S. starting in November as a result of revelations about the concealed weakness.

A: King of Wands R

Sri Arya says the following about King of Wands R

Heartbreakers, implying more than actually gets delivered. Attractiveness slides into seductiveness, which spills over into all aspects of life. Dislikes neediness intensely and can be harsh about it. High standards are only for others. Friendships burn out quickly once their utility is over. Posturing and flamboyance to cover up inner hollowness. Attention seekers. Turn into toxic bosses hampering their employees at every turn. Spin around in dizzying creative circles but nothing gets done. Comparitively, the card has a small Shadow side but it burns deeper!


Special meaning of the card: n/a

Special Insight of the card: Why are you hiding your leadership light under a bushel of modesty? Are you being too dominating? Is a relationship becoming uncomfortable?


Suit tattva: Agni (Fire)
Card tattva: Prithvi-Agni (Earth of Fire)
Karma type: Prarabdha (incarnated), Purushartha (willed) (equally)
Karma quality: Adridha (fluid)

- p. 243


I then drew from the bottom deck because Sri Arya says many years of trial and error have taught him and his disciples it gives additional and many times critical commentary on the main card (or cards) drawn for any spread.

So I pulled from the bottom

A: The Grace of Babaji

(This is one of several unique major arcana additions to Sri Arya's The Sacred India Tarot deck and represents Objective Consciousness in Cosmic Doctrine terms).

Sri Arya writes the following about it:

When this card comes in a reading remove it and substitute another card from the pack drawn at random. Now look anew at the reading in light of all you know about Babaji. In what way has the infusion of Light and Consciousness transformed the meaning of your reading and impacted the cards already laid out? This is a unique and personal event each time and the meaning it conveys is for you alone.

Of course, it would be even better if you use this card for meditation. Again, that is a personal choice - may Babaji guide you!

Shadow: None. It is an absurd conceit

Karma Type: All
Karma Quality: All

Insight of the Card: Consciousness is the universe.

- p. 133



So I set it off to one side per the instructions above and pulled the very next card from the bottom of the deck.

So The Grace of Babaji >> was overlaid with:


A: 5 of Cups R

Sri Arya writes of this card:

Shattering loss. Heartbreak. Unhappiness. Flawed partnerships. Unfulfilling times and situations. Unfaithfulness and affairs. Broken relationships. Discovery of infidelity or a long-standing affair comes as shock to the partner. Unwanted and unforeseen separations. Sadness and regrets about how life has turned out. Friendships that persist only out of habit. Drifting apart. Hardening of attitudes. Arguments and turmoil. Emotional resistance to change. Bizarre risks taken. Fantasy of changing the past. "If only...". Heightened pessimism. Garbled communications.


Special meaning of the card: Inheritance, legacy and gifts after death.

Insight of the card: What is it that you were refusing to recognize and is now imperatively demanding your attention? What needs to be let go decisively?


Suit tattva: Jala (Water)
Card tattva: Akasha-Jala (Space-Water)
Karma type: Prarabdha (incarnated)
Karma quality: Dridha (fixed)

- p. 189



I am unsure as to what this reading is saying about the Concealed Weakness mentioned in JMG's Mars-Saturn Conjunction for 2024 but it seems Objective Consciousness was gracious enough to turn up in my spread to give additional commentary about it. The Grace of Babaji card is - in my opinion - very useful, addition to this deck and I almost never ever have it turn over.

So what is Objective Consciousness saying about that King of Wands R and 5 of Cups R spread on the concealed weakness?



Edit: Apologies. I forgot to mention the Babaji being referenced in Sri Arya's deck is the 'Maha-Avatar Babaji' that Paramhansa Yogananda wrote about in his book, Autobiography of a Yogi
Edited Date: 2024-04-08 05:36 am (UTC)

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Date: 2024-04-14 06:40 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Is Iran attacking Israel a clear cut manifestation of this conjunction?

(no subject)

Date: 2024-04-16 07:06 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Per Wikipedia:

On 13 April 2024, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), a branch of the Iranian military—in coordination with the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces , Lebanese group Hezbollah, and the Yemeni Houthis —launched hundreds of airstrikes, codenamed Operation True Promise (Persian: وعده صادق, romanized: va'de-ye sādeq), against Israel and the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights,with drones, and cruise and ballistic missiles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Iranian_strikes_in_Israel

An afflicted Venus as ruler of this house warns of extravagance and waste in government, violent fluctuations in stocks and other investments, and scandals involving money siphoned from government or corporate budgets for extravagant living.


JMG said that war is unlikely, but this event could have other very big repercussions. I pointed out that Permian basin which was the star of the fracking "miracle" is coughing badly. If that's the case and serious declines happens in US energy production added on top with a revolution wave in the middle east... might make for serious economic and financial woes.

War may not be in the stars but if some party is pushing a war actively it will not be very happy outcome Also I think I remember that if Venus is crossed she can be pretty deadly and furious...


Omen - Oldest stock exchange on fire.

Date: 2024-04-16 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-we-know-about-copenhagens-old-stock-exchange-that-caught-fire-2024-04-16/


🇩🇰 In Copenhagen, the famous spire of the world's oldest stock exchange, Börsen, collapsed as a result of a strong fire, reports Reuters.

The building is 400 years old. The 54-meter spire was made in the shape of the twisted tails of dragons.

(no subject)

Date: 2024-05-10 03:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I would like to leave here a theme for meditation.

The influence of planets is to a certain degree shaped by the human perception of them (Ceres, Vulcan, Pluto, etc.). The misnaming of the outer planets most likely has an effect on their effect on human affairs.

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