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stop right thereWe are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Allergies

Date: 2023-10-17 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] https://openid-provider.appspot.com/bryanlallen
Went to the local chain grocery store today to buy a couple of items. Just inside the store entrance was a female employee attempting to hand out brochures for the store’s online ‘discount’ scheme. Said employee was wearing one of the little unfortunate plastic-particle-shedding blue face coverings. Festooned in my bike helmet and gloves, I looked her in the eye, scowled gently, and demurred to accept a handout.

After purchasing my items, I walked by the face-obscuring pamphleteer and asked her: “Does the store require you to cover your face like that?” She blinked in surprise, apparently not understanding. I pointed at her mouth: “Does the store make you wear that?” “Oh, no…” she replied. “Are you ill?”, I asked. “Oh, no, umm, allergies” she responded, nodding affirmatively. I stood there considering for a bit, thinking “mid-October, less than two miles from the sea in Central California, whaaa?” and finally slowly nodded. “Ah, allergies. Welll…”, shook my head, and walked out.

Afterwards, I considered that if those who now are wearing face-coverings, particularly those who give off the vibe of being insecure hypochondriacs, are using fall-back excuses like ‘allergies’, perhaps it’s becoming anathema to utter the “C” word. One can only hope.

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-18 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Why don't you just leave the girl alone?

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-18 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Or better yet put her in charge of the local Health Department with a special provenance for the local elementary schools.
She can teach children how to make face shields out of mylar and decorated with glued pasta.

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-18 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sometimes people who are challenged like that experience insight that wakes them from their sleep. His questions may have triggered her own.

It's important to try to help the sleepers awaken.

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-20 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"It's important to try to help the sleepers awaken." I agree with that, if possible, in a polite way.

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-18 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] https://openid-provider.appspot.com/bryanlallen
That’s a very reasonable question.

My attitude to this point is that anyone wearing a mask in a public space is due respect. I do not question them about their choice.

However, in this case, the person was a representative of the store. She was wearing the store’s uniform. The dynamics of human sales interaction pretty much demand that a person be presentable and pleasant when handing out flyers, or otherwise representing a store. The mask she was wearing didn’t send that message; her face was obscured. Had she replied that the store required her to wear the mask, I likely would’ve quietly sought out a store manager to ask why. Her personal choice to wear a mask was damaging her ability to perform her job effectively. Masks signal “stay away“.

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-18 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Personally I felt bad for what Covid did to those who are hypochondriacs, germaphobes, and OCD. It must have given them a considerable boost to what are often tiring behaviors. So though I too get annoyed when I see people wearing masks (a few people never stopped wearing them where I work) I also try to sympathize, because I can only have a glimpse of what it is like to be them, and I wouldn't want anyone to be that scared.

Peace.

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-18 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think this is something most people haven't clued into yet: a huge part of what made the Covid debacle so horrific is that it provided a justification for people with mental health issues to give into their mental illness. I have always had some degree of depression; it got a lot worse during the Covid mess because, for a couple years, not just was everything shut down, but we were being encouraged to view staying at home, doing nothing, as heroic.

In addition to needing to fight the depression with most of my supports removed, I was also being bombarded with messages that fighting it was evil, and that giving into it was not just good, but heroism. Frankly, I'm still not sure where I found the inner strength just to keep myself alive...

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-19 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] slinky_weasel
I got a lot of inner strength from this blog. I felt so alone. I was so alone. But I found some refuge here, and knew I was not alone. Thanks, JMG.

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-22 07:12 am (UTC)
sinners4diseasecontrol: Photo by husband atop Mt. Shirouma at dawn (Default)
From: [personal profile] sinners4diseasecontrol
This blog has been a godsend. A big thank you to JMG's gods! And to JMG himself, too!

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-18 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's been quite a while since an NGO or actual government agency in this area pushed treatment for mental health with the statistics 'one in four' being afflicted.
I never believed it was that high and if it was it also included a high percentage of mental health professionals pushing it up.

I look at defiance and fear both mingling in a stewed dish of self-righteousness on the masked unless they are simply in an 'obedient' group which is a different kettle of fish.

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-19 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You're absolutely right. I recall that we did discuss this in this forum at one point.

I personally know several people who had mild OCD and germaphobic tendencies, but who would probably would have been considered sub-clinical and whose lives were not overly impacted by their conditions. You probably know the type - a little hyper about the germs and the sanitizing wipes, but functional. These people went absolutely nucking futs over cooties-19. The propaganda tapped into a mild and controlled anxiety condition, and blew it up into full-scale mental illness. Many of them have not recovered.

As another commentator pointed out, one of the things the whole Cootie Mania Show did was worsen a range of mental illnesses. Already germ-anxious people had their germaphobia encouraged into a full-scale, debilitating illness, while already depressed and/or socially awkward/anxious people were locked in their homes and forbidden to socialize, worsening their conditions, etc.

Meanwhile, we already know that people with treatable medical conditions other than the Dread Cootie Plague were unable to access services, or chose not to seek care because they were either scared or mistakenly thought that the hospitals (some of them full of dancing nurses) were so over-burdened with cootie patients that it would be selfish of them to go have their conditions checked out, and wound up much sicker or dying from some non-cootie condition. And people who needed other services - like the elderly or developmentally disabled who relied on home visits to check their well-being, or people of all ages in need of any number of treatments and therapies - were denied services, making them worse.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you "Public Health."

A system where a bunch of corrupt career bureaucrats get caught up in some combination of mass hysteria, "expert" group think, venal greed, and/or rank careerism, and cheerfully destroy the healthy of many, many people to "protect" society from a respiratory virus that posed a serious threat only to the old and ill (which includes the vitamin-deficient and the morbidly obese), and which could have been treated using standard treatments for respiratory illnesses, without disrupting all of society and killing and sickening even more people in a myriad of ways. And where anybody who tried to point out the sheer madness was subjected to relentless abuse for not buying into the mass delusion.

"A Voluntary Pandemic" indeed.

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-19 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
OP of OCD comment...

... you nailed it. It's been an all around fluster cluck for sure. Hopefully we will find a path to uncluck ourselves!

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-22 07:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sinners4diseasecontrol
Ragweed season here in Japan, and a cotton nose rag will stop a sneezing fit, while nothing large pharma companies produce helps me at all. So I wear one off and on. Some stores still require them, too.

There are other ladies still wearing them, who have benefited in that the lower half of their face has some deficit--receding jaw, crooked teeth, etc. etc., but they have lovely eyes. No one's critical of them if they want to maintain the focus on their charm point. I see ladies with bejeweled masks. (Masking was never a source of controversy here.)

Six months ago, everyone still had to wear masks at sumo matches. Half the fun is checking out the audience, because lots of bigwigs sit in the first few rows. There was one masked beauty attending every day, always in a pastel dress, sitting primly, perfectly straight Japanese style on the floor, hands in lap, raising them only to clap. We speculated she was some company president's wife, and wondered if she would be as strikingly pretty without the mask. The tabloids noticed her too. Someone speculated she was a tranny, and after that, she sat out of sight of the cameras. So we will never know.

Re: Allergies

Date: 2023-10-22 07:33 am (UTC)
sinners4diseasecontrol: Photo by husband atop Mt. Shirouma at dawn (Default)
From: [personal profile] sinners4diseasecontrol
I note the Japanese are nearly universally OCD and germaphobic, at least compared to most other nations. The presence and absence of COVID-19 didn't really change things all that much, except they became highly critical of anyone who travelled beyond prefectural borders. When we were moving, we had to hide our car in back at our new address until we could new license plates. They have relaxed that now, and we were able to travel across Japan a couple weeks ago.
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