Magic Monday

[ecosophia]

It's nearly midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. With certain exceptions, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note:  Any question or comment received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. (I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ here. Also: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says. 

The picture?  I've been tracing my lineages back as far as I can, and last week took my Martinist lineage back as far as they can be documented. The next step -- and it's the last step in the entire process -- involves a fair bit of speculation, but it's speculation backed up by some evidence. It's been suggested by some historians, Marsha Keith Schuchard foremost among them, that the mysterious Knight of the Red Feather who conferred the Templar lineage on Baron von Hund, last week's honoree, was none other than Charles Stuart, the Bonnie Prince Charlie of Scottish song and story. The claim is that in the years immediately before 1745, when the House of Stuart made its last (and disastrously unsuccessful) attempt to reclaim the British throne, Charles and his inner circle of supporters used various forms of clandestine Freemasonry to raise funds, engage in espionage, and gather arms and supporters for the planned rising. Baron von Hund's initiation was an incident in that process. Martinez de Pasqually, who was honored a couple of weeks back, also claimed to have a charter signed by Charles Stuart as the basis for his occult Masonic order. So it's possible that what lies behind one of the great traditions of Western occultism is a failed political intrigue that got picked up and repurposed by a couple of canny occultists. Stranger things have happened in the history of occultism.

...And with this, the rambling tale of the odd lineages that I've inherited comes to an end. Now I'll have to think of something else to use as illustrations to Magic Mondays!

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Comments

[ecosophia]

1) It really depends on their karma. Again, there are no hard and fast rules.

2) Don't go there. Seriously, don't go there. The gods know what you need, you don't, and if it's better for the two of you to let go of each other, or spend a life or two apart and work off some unrelated karma before reuniting, trying to mess that up can produce a galaxy of miserable outcomes.

[(Anonymous)]

On (2), understood. To be honest, this whole discussion leaves me feeling very disappointed and disenchanted. I know that "it all goes back in the box" at death, but I had hopes that relationships (especially such important and powerful ones) would be more lasting than you described.

[ecosophia]

Some are, some aren't, and human beings are very, very poor at telling which is which. This is one of the many situations in which it's best to leave things to the gods.

[(Anonymous)]

I know we don't explicitly carry a lot of knowledge from one incarnation to the next.

Is there some way that I can make sure my next incarnation is aware of this information at the earliest possible moment, so it can proceed accordingly?

[ecosophia]

You can't. Why are you so fixated on trying to control the process instead of leaving it in the hands of the gods where it belongs?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not trying to control the process. :-)

But, for me, the concept of marriage loses a great deal of appeal under this paradigm compared to my prior paradigm.

[(Anonymous)]

As a (Heathen) granddaughter of devout Mormons, I've often wondered about the wisdom of "sealing" people to each other in this life in a temple ceremony, so they may continue their family ties after death. I'm all about respecting/honoring my ancestors, but it does seem to me that a higher power or powers would know best how to sort out our relationships after death. For example, my mother was sealed to her parents as a teenager, and long before her current age of 86 had zero interest in that plan coming to fruition. Perhaps her lack of interest, even hostility, to the idea will keep her out of weird entanglements?

I don't know my fate, let alone that of my kinfolk. I'm happy to leave that with the Norns. Relieved, in fact.

May ask if you have an opinion on the practice of sealing? And if so, what that might be?

Thanks as always,
OtterGirl

[ecosophia]

It strikes me as unwise, but probably ineffective. Joseph Smith was a capable occultist, but I'm not at all sure his current heirs are anything like as good.

[(Anonymous)]

2) Not the OP, but I called it off with someone because she knew I believed in reincarnation and got upset I wanted to keep "Til death do us part" in our wedding vows, and not try to bind us together after death. What kind of mess did I avoid with that decision?

[ecosophia]

Impossible to say without knowledge of both people's karma, which I don't have. I would have done the same thing, though.