Magic Monday
Aug. 27th, 2023 11:11 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

The picture? I've been tracing my lineages back as far as I can, and last week took my Martinist lineage back as far as they can be documented. The next step -- and it's the last step in the entire process -- involves a fair bit of speculation, but it's speculation backed up by some evidence. It's been suggested by some historians, Marsha Keith Schuchard foremost among them, that the mysterious Knight of the Red Feather who conferred the Templar lineage on Baron von Hund, last week's honoree, was none other than Charles Stuart, the Bonnie Prince Charlie of Scottish song and story. The claim is that in the years immediately before 1745, when the House of Stuart made its last (and disastrously unsuccessful) attempt to reclaim the British throne, Charles and his inner circle of supporters used various forms of clandestine Freemasonry to raise funds, engage in espionage, and gather arms and supporters for the planned rising. Baron von Hund's initiation was an incident in that process. Martinez de Pasqually, who was honored a couple of weeks back, also claimed to have a charter signed by Charles Stuart as the basis for his occult Masonic order. So it's possible that what lies behind one of the great traditions of Western occultism is a failed political intrigue that got picked up and repurposed by a couple of canny occultists. Stranger things have happened in the history of occultism.
...And with this, the rambling tale of the odd lineages that I've inherited comes to an end. Now I'll have to think of something else to use as illustrations to Magic Mondays!
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Some questions
Date: 2023-08-28 11:00 pm (UTC)1) have you heard of the white eagle lodge? If yes, what do you think of them/their teachings?
2) To divine if I should do the reverse memory review before sleep, what house signifier should I use?
3) Why is Jupiter justice and Saturn karma when karma is a type of justice? To extend that, Jupiter’s expansion and Saturn’s restriction seem to be related / mirrored, though Saturn’s is highest before the firmament, thus wisdom is closest to heaven?
Curious if you can share some thoughts on their relation and their place in spiritual life.
Re: Puppy vision
Date: 2023-08-28 11:04 pm (UTC)Prayer regarding surgery today
Date: 2023-08-28 11:11 pm (UTC)Brother Kornhoer's son, who has been on the prayer list for several months for his empty nose syndrome, is getting surgery today to help to deal with the condition. May the surgery go excellently, and may he heal quickly.
(A reminder for those who sometimes combine planetary timing with their prayers: today is Tuesday, which is the day of Mars, who rules surgery.)
Re: Cabala
Date: 2023-08-28 11:16 pm (UTC)Reply
Date: 2023-08-28 11:18 pm (UTC)"§ 5. Whoever lends money, transfers the dominion of the money to the borrower. The latter therefore holds it at his own risk, and is bound to restore the sum in its entirety: wherefore the lender ought not to exact any more. But he who entrusts his money to a merchant or manufacturer in the way of partnership, does not transfer the dominion of the money to him, but it remains his: so that at his risk it is that the merchant trades with it, or the manufacturer works upon it: and therefore at that rate he may lawfully demand a share of the profits thence arising as from his own property.1"- Thomas Aquinas
(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 11:19 pm (UTC)Is there any way to improve either one with training?
Re: Cabala
Date: 2023-08-28 11:20 pm (UTC)John Dee
Date: 2023-08-28 11:21 pm (UTC)I have just finished Jason Louv's John Dee and the Empire of the Angels, which I recommend. The book gives biographical details on John Dee and his relationship with Edward Kelley plus has a chapter dedicated to the modern practitioners of enochian magic (focus on Aliester Crowley and Jack Parsons).
I know enough now to believe that Dee was in communication with some beings, angels or beings claiming to be angles but can only say that if I came across beings when scrying, I'd be a little more skeptical....
(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 11:23 pm (UTC)I know how sketchy that sounds, in an "ask anything about magic" QA ;) I skim the topic posts for discussions of personal interest-- dreams, perception, states of consciousness, Christianity, autism, meditation-- and skip the rest. And now that the search algos have killed all my old sources for gardening, herb lore, and housekeeping tips... I get those here too!
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Date: 2023-08-28 11:28 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 11:30 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 11:34 pm (UTC)In this regard, I now remember reading the following in the closing ceremony of a FHR temple:
If you used the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, say: “I now release the banishing I placed about this temple, and send its influence to benefit those who need protection at this time.” [...] Imagine the protective energies dissolving and going elsewhere to protect others.
I presume this may be transferable to the practice of the LBRP outside the context of the FHR?
(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 11:39 pm (UTC)I mean, I guess I could hang out in Orthodox forums, but last I checked they were overrun by enthusiastic young folks having intense arguments about monophysitism. Sigh. I'll leave that to the youngsters.
Re: John Dee
Date: 2023-08-28 11:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 11:43 pm (UTC)1) In my life, I have come to suspect that my now elderly mother is what European culture used to describe as a witch. It’s difficult to explain why I have that suspicion without getting tedious. But I think it’s fair to say that she has an imbalanced inner life that she can communicate to her surroundings in unconscious, subtle, and harmful ways.
Would you recommend journaling about this, or is my suspicion so stupid that I should just ignore it and move on? Should I just be aware of this without dwelling on it? I’m interested in this mostly to see if any karmic consequence from past lives comes to the surface.
2) This is unrelated, but do you have any thoughts on whether Crowley’s Lam was an astral being of the sort that others have experienced as grey aliens?
Thank you for your books and for making yourself available like this.
(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 11:50 pm (UTC)Axé,
Fra' Lupo
Re: Storied Meditations
Date: 2023-08-28 11:54 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-28 11:56 pm (UTC)Re: John Dee
Date: 2023-08-28 11:59 pm (UTC)Re: Some questions
Date: 2023-08-29 12:00 am (UTC)2) I'd do that as a 9th house divination, as it's a spiritual practice.
3) Jupiter is the kind of justice that is generous, balanced, and takes the circumstances into account. Saturn is strict retributive justice -- you did X and you will pay for it to the last farthing. It's worth meditating on the difference.
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Date: 2023-08-29 12:00 am (UTC)2) It seems very likely to me that he was, yes.
Re: Puppy vision
Date: 2023-08-29 12:02 am (UTC)—Princess Cutekitten
Re: Storied Meditations
Date: 2023-08-29 12:04 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-29 12:07 am (UTC)"That’s one of the two factors behind ritual magic. The other is applied psychology, and this latter is probably the more important of the two; a vast amount of what can be done through magical practice depends utterly on the use of emotionally charged symbols, dramatic action, and an assortment of other means to reorient the unreasoning levels of the human mind."
There is also the Nocebo Effect to consider; so, a very large number of people on the political and cultural left did heavy rituals to the effect of "We're all going to die (from Covid!) without masks and lockdowns!" So, what happens when we remove the lockdowns and masks? It strikes me that this may, without invoking anything about vaccine efficacy, help explain the rise of Covid illnesses among the vaccinated, as many of them were tied to the left; and they may very well have unwittingly created an emotional link in their minds between living normally, and Covid.
However, when we consider the scale of the thing, it also seems plausible this could create a major amount of psychic energy, which could fairly easily earth out with ADE inducing vaccines; but ADE inducing vaccines which don't kick in right away, but rather only take effect once life is largely back to normal. Is it possible that what happened since 2020 essentially transformed a large swath of society into a large scale magical working aimed at their own death?
Re: What's in a name?
Date: 2023-08-29 12:08 am (UTC)—Princess Cutekitten