Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 104
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So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2023-08-02 11:34 pm (UTC)I recently spoke to a true believer who recently lost a middle-aged family member to a sudden heart attack. This person's thinking? That "covid" played a role. Covid "weakened the heart" and led to the fatal attack. Not the miracle jab, just "covid".
That's probably a sign of where this is going among the true believers. The miracle jabs "reduced symptoms," but people still caught the dread disease, and even a "mild case" (mild thanks to the jabs of course!) somehow "weakened" people and is leading to the poor health outcomes. Being as it cannot possibly be the miracle jabs, ergo...
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Date: 2023-08-03 10:59 am (UTC)HOLLOWBONE - Hold the Line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc-FsVA6zU
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Date: 2023-08-03 11:12 pm (UTC)It was a stark, gray, Nordic-suspense-horror type movie setting. All I got was the climactic scene, where it is revealed that whatever was in the shots was both self-propagating and contagious via shedding, and that since the initial test subjects were not quarantined, it had already escaped irretrievably. Everybody was gonna be exposed anyway. Nobody wanted responsibility for that. And *that* was why the big push to eliminate control groups. To try and hide it for as long as possible. Which meant all the "I'll be OK because I didn't get it" was fantasy, and all the people claiming you could reverse the damage with IVM or vitamin regimens or whatever were hucksters selling wish-fulfillment dreams. All hope died. Reminded me a bit of the (book) ending to Smilla's Sense of Snow, which I haven't read in decades. And then immediately on not-quite-waking, I was reminded of this post by Frederica Matthewes-Green:
https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/frederica/writings/an-eerie-dream
posted in March 2020, so likely triggered by the virus news. But still. What I was thinking about in that weird space between awake and asleep, was... she thought it was the virus, but it wasn't. It was the shots. And she got the shots. (I don't 100% know this, but have a vague recollection of reading her say so at some point-- may be wrong. But that is what my brain farted out just before I was fully awake).
I'm nowhere near that pessimistic in real life. But. This gives me pause. It felt like my subconscious reaching out and making connections that I couldn't quite do while waking. That doesn't make them accurate or true. Dreams are more often metaphorical, after all. I'm still trying to work through if there's any logical reason to think that shedding is a reason for eliminating controls. The mental gears are slow and rusty.
Will The Dam Break?
Date: 2023-08-04 03:16 am (UTC)Re: Will The Dam Break?
Date: 2023-08-04 06:46 am (UTC)summer cold
Date: 2023-08-04 03:57 am (UTC)The other interesting point is that my scared offspring and spouse are way more off the rails since COVID. They are unhappy with us that they caught this summer cold from me. I was not sick when they got me from my other offspring to stay at their house, but we all knew I had been with my sick offspring for 4 or 5 days, and this is out of state so I can't just not be there in any case, and we had college student with a negative COVID test. But then they were saying that they would want to avoid ALL illness, not just the COVID. My opinion is that if there is a "summer cold" going around, you are going to pick it up somewhere, what is the big deal ? Not get the twice a year in person visit ? Not help family move ? Over the possibility to get a couple days of a mild cold ?
A week ago before I left I went to a coffee gathering locally and somehow COVID came up and I asked this couple in the conversation, well, you say you were vacinated "yes" but you got COVID "yes" So... so COVID vaccine does not stop the transmission, so we should not have mandated it for students and others as a public safety measure -- oh, no, they can't agree with that ! They demur that we can't talk about this without access to the same data etc... and I said, I am talking about personal experience. You know all these people who were vaccinated and yet got COVID, so clearly it does not keep people from getting it. And they personally know 2 people who died of COVID so there is not more to be said...So goes the current state of Denial in the great SF Bay Area of California, hotspot of COVID vaccine lovers
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Date: 2023-08-04 04:23 am (UTC)The youngest has it the worst. But in this case, health issues date from October 2019 virus that was not COVID, at least, it was not what we were later testing for in the COVID tests. It was a very nasty virus. Lung issues to this day, easily gets sick, does clear being sick well, etc... So obviously this summers mild summer cold stuck around for weeks and weeks and this one is back on steroidal asthma inhaler, it is not just the staying up on the trip, this one has been like this since October 2019. College forced a couple vaccines. Had what we are testing for and calling COVID about 3 times, very mild, no issues from that. The issues are from the fall 2019 virus.
The eldest besides having anxiety issues over all illnesses, now has reproductive issues, digestive issues, and goes for more testing next month on why various issues are there. so far nothing earth shattering bad, but also, these various issues that don't seem to have a cause or cure and are from after the whole cover vaccine times. Extremely vaxxed, has had the COVID twice, mildly, later versions not the earlier COVID, no lung issues. Did not get the fall 2019 virus that college student, youngest offspring, and I had. because lives more out of the way area.
Middle child of mine has been vaccinated various times, is part of the PMC now, about 2 years in as a PMC. tests all the time, required for work. Has had COVID, the tested for virus, a few times at least, not badly, mild. But since the whole covid/vax stuff gets sick alot. Always seems to be sick when I call. Did not get the 2019 bad fall virus from us as didn't run into college student in person that visit and when I was real sick, did porch drop off of food for me, I was sick enough to not want to spread it.
my offspring range from 25 to 34 years old. They are weight proportional, called skinny these days, active, healthy, before 2019 no health issues, not diabetic, not preexisting conditions, not elderly. They should be able to travel and stay up late, not be anxious over colds, not sick all the time..... like we all were when I was their age
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Re: vaccine injuries, long COVID, who knows
Date: 2023-08-05 12:51 pm (UTC)I should consider myself fortunate: although both my adult children were brutally coerced into getting poked (despite my advice to resist the pressure and to bear the consequent privations with dignity), neither seem to have manifested any noticeable physical ill effects as a result (other than one getting cooties within a few days of getting a jab). However, both have been terribly traumatized by three years of social insanity – the younger one especially so.
Our nations’ youth have been through the ringer; it’s painful to contemplate what will be the long-term effects of the pharmaceutical harm, unrelenting psyops and full-spectrum abuse by TPTB on the generation that is ‘taking over’ while their parents, who spent their formative years in less dystopic times, are heading towards the ‘exit’.
Ron M
Email providers?
Date: 2023-08-04 09:50 am (UTC)Re: Email providers?
Date: 2023-08-05 10:48 am (UTC)That's a good question. Most email providers use blacklists to block spam. If you score 5-15 on the blacklists, email is marked as spam. If you're marked 15+, the email is silently rejected.
If you're okay with not receiving email from disinformation sources, Google's Gmail https://gmail.com is reliable and free.
People I know recommend Proton mail: https://proton.me/
If you're an IT admin, installing your own email server is not too hard. That's what I did, following the guide at: https://workaround.org/
Interested in reading other people's recommendations!
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Date: 2023-08-04 11:07 am (UTC)No medical guidance given and consult your doctor before any treatment etc.
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Date: 2023-08-06 12:31 am (UTC)I have been finding the nattokinase helps me feel better, specifically, my mind sharper. I'm in good shape, mainly concerned about shedding.
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Date: 2023-08-04 11:36 am (UTC)Are there any more details on that person and how they are doing lately? Was there some sort of write up?
I'm curious about the type of work that people need to do to get back on the horse. Thanks.
Friend in hospital
Date: 2023-08-04 11:44 am (UTC)Re: Friend in hospital
Date: 2023-08-04 10:11 pm (UTC)Then the speculation begins. Or not.
So many people took the Jabs without thinking it through, and so many took the Jabs without even remotely getting the benefit of proper disclosure on the risks.
Here's a link to a post about one of the governors in Japan who declared an emergency and pushed the Jabs, but declined to get any himself to avoid anaphylactic shock. Which he discovered could kill him, and was a possible side effect.
https://guygin.substack.com/p/governor-kawakatsu-jabs-for-thee
The article also points out that less than 150 families who had a loved one die from The Jabs have been compensated by the Japanese government.
The folks who were at risk from clotting, heart issues, pregnant or had compromised immune systems were almost always "assured" the Jab was the best choice. Turns out this is not the case.....
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Date: 2023-08-05 04:38 pm (UTC)https://expose-news.com/2023/08/05/bombshell-pfizer-employees-were-given-special-batch-of-vaccine/
Justin Trudeau not really vaxxed
Date: 2023-08-05 08:22 pm (UTC)Re: Justin Trudeau not really vaxxed
Date: 2023-08-06 10:47 pm (UTC)But it would be good if those who have actual experience in giving injections could weigh in on the video's claims.
Thanks for the video!
Ron M
Good legal news from Alberta!
Date: 2023-08-06 01:18 am (UTC)Video that gets into some details here: https://rumble.com/v34qnu8-major-win-alberta-covid-lockdown-measures-struck-down-carpay-and-chipiuk-we.html
Freedom! Liberté! Justice!
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Re: Good legal news from Alberta!
Date: 2023-08-06 03:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-06 02:15 am (UTC)'Dr. Naomi Wolf interviews Dr. James Thorp. Dr. Thorp reveals FOIA results: $11 million to bribe OB-GYNs to lie to moms about often-abortifacient MRNA injections.'
https://dailyclout.io/shocking-foia-results-11-million-to-bribe-ob-gyns-to-lie-to-moms-about-safety-of-mrna-vaccines/
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Date: 2023-08-06 02:27 am (UTC)So, my long-time ophthalmologist recently retired, and I had to find a new one - which I did, based on a relative's recommendation. I just got the "intake paperwork" sent to me to fill out in advance of the appointment.
Buried among all of the usual medical-history questions all doctors ask is:
"Have you every had a pneumococcal vaccine? Flu vaccine? Covid-19 vaccine?"
Since when have ophthalmologists started asking about random vaccines? And why the weird wording "Have you ever had...", not "Have you recently had?" And why those three vaccines and not others?
This feels new to me. Does anyone have any idea why they'd be asking that? Is there any possible eye-related medical reason, or is this medical practice just extra-intrusive? Have other people been asked about vaccines in this sort of setting? Am I being paranoid?
- Mauve Erudite Stoat
(sitting here feeling like the Hollywood stereotype of a New Jersey mobster going "Who wants to know? And why do they wanna know?")
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Date: 2023-08-06 10:29 am (UTC)Last year, I tried to gently probe to see if the doc had noticed an increase in patients' vascular changes since covid or since the widespread vax rollout. Doc politely dismissed the question, but did mention she'd seen one or two unexpected "venous occlusions", if I recall the term correctly.
In my own circles, I've noticed a significant bump in strange eye problems since the vax-- a rare eye cancer, a friend with persistent double vision attributed to a nerve problem, and an older relative going blind in one eye because of a venous occlusion.
The blood vessels in the retina are the only ones in the body visible without invasive procedures. I would expect that opthalmologists got an earlier signal about clotting than most specialists, but no doubt very few ever made a peep about it.
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Date: 2023-08-06 01:14 pm (UTC)I watched this video, about the Canadian military lawsuit. A couple of things struck me about it.
First is when the guy says that his Commanding Officer told him "Yeah we don't do 'religious exemptions' around here." Only to find out later that yeah, it's in the law that you will.
Second is when the lawyer says she was asked by media, "Don't you think you're just fueling 'conspiracy theories' by bringing this lawsuit?" That irks me on so many different levels but here's my real point, and what I take away from both of these, and it's optimistic, and it ties in with some of JMG's themes in recent weeks at the main site.
Which is that the "Canada" we've known for the, what, maybe the past 30 years or so? Is dead after all this and it's not coming back. In particular there's been a very strong pressure in this country, over the last several decades, to be extremely secular; religion is something to be "kept to oneself" and mildly embarrassed about; you will subscribe to the CBC-led narrative on whatever the current issue; and so forth.
And that's going away. Those two aspects from the video that I mention, especially the second one strikes me as trying to lock the barn door after the horse has escaped. We tried going the bland, conformist, secular route in this country guys, guess what, didn't work out, and it's time for something else.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SUOqRdxX2OA&pp=ygUOZGF2ZSBtb3Jyb3cgcHQ%3D
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Date: 2023-08-07 01:03 pm (UTC)While it is true that it is not possible to recreate a particular time in a country’s history (can’t step in the same river twice and all that) there is certainly an essence or some principals that can certainly be revived as long as it’s in some people’s hearts and there is a strong determination to make it so by enough people. Hey, if the Israelis were able to successfully resurrect a long-dead language (Hebrew), a lot of other things that can be brought back. As a former ‘river rat’ (grew up literally on the shore of the mighty St. Lawrence) and sailor, I can tell you that remarkable things can be accomplished when the wind and the current are in your favour. With the change in tides in ‘the affairs of men’ in which the force of hyper-rational technocratic culture is spent and has run aground, and the voice of spirit is becoming louder in so many people’s hearts, it is my hope and belief that some semblance of a country in which, like our charter’s preamble, acknowledges ‘the supremacy of God and the rule of law’ (as the Hon. Brian Peckford likes to often remind us) may return during my children’s lifetime or maybe, if I am lucky, before my body is dissolved into the four elements.
Ron M
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Date: 2023-08-06 03:28 pm (UTC)When people were saying it was really bad I was having horrific dreams. I usually pray for protection at night but fell into bed last night exhausted and without my usual prayer.
My dream was dark and gritty but nothing near as bad as they were during the worst of it. Not sure if that is an indication of anything. Maybe I just had some residual protection from my routine prayers.
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Date: 2023-08-06 07:18 pm (UTC)Prayer is essential and highly recommended.
I wish each and everyone who passes through here the best. As my boxing coach would say, Protect yourself at all times and May God be with you all!
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Date: 2023-08-07 02:13 am (UTC)Connecticut
Date: 2023-08-07 02:57 am (UTC)https://www.zerohedge.com/political/court-bans-religious-vaccine-exemptions-connecticut-children
Vaccines save lives — this is a fact beyond dispute.
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Date: 2023-08-07 03:53 am (UTC)The definition of vaccine has also become so distorted as to be meaningless. I therefore declare the word vaccine to now be a verb for 'adopt a puppy.' Now it may save lives.
I did skim the article as much as I could before dinner. As usual the comments on ZH were better.
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Date: 2023-08-07 05:02 pm (UTC)https://californiaglobe.com/articles/reedley-chinese-covid-lab-received-tax-credit-of-360000-from-gov-newsoms-go-biz/
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