ask yourself why you believe that. what data have you seen? if you actually look at the data (from ourworldindata), you find:
The country with the highest deaths per million of population for TB is Niger (31 deaths/million people). Niger is 95% vaxxed against TB. Of the top 10 countries with the highest death rates from TB (average of around 25 deaths/million people), half are at least 95% vaccinated.
At the other end of the scale, Ireland stopped vaccinating entirely against TB in 2015, and is in the bottom 10 for deaths (0.2 deaths per million). Switzerland is notable here too, with 0.36 deaths per million (in the bottom 20 for deaths from TB, from a total of 155 countries for which I could find all the data), and 76% of its population unvaccinated.
Put simply, the country with the highest death from TB is almost completely vaccinated against TB; the country with almost the lowest rate of death from TB is completely unvaccinated.
the same pattern is true of all other vaccines, with the sole exception of rabies; that 1 will save your life. but really, the accepted wisdom will damage or kill your children, according to the actual data.
• Are vaccines effective? What does history tell us? "For children over one year of age, the overall decline in mortality during the 20th century has been dramatic. In 1900, more than 3 in 100 children died between their first and 20th birthdays; today, fewer than 2 in 1,000 die. Nearly 85% of this decline occurred before the Second World War, a period when few antibiotics or modern vaccines and medicines were available".
"Annual Summary of Vital Statistics", PEDIATRICS, the official journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics. DOI: 10.1542/peds.106.6.1307
• If vaccines are not effective, what has improved health over the last century? "The incidence of diseases such as cholera and typhoid has dropped dramatically, despite the lack of vaccines. In 1900, the incidence of typhoid fever (for which there has never been a vaccine) in the United States was about 100 cases per 100,000 people. By 1920, it had dropped to 33.8 cases per 100,000 people. By 2006, it had dropped to 0.1 cases per 100,000 people. This decrease in the disease is attributed to the introduction of disinfection and treatment of drinking water, improved quality of water sources, and improved sanitation and hygiene. It is because of these successes that we can celebrate more than a century of disinfection and treatment of public drinking water - one of the greatest public health achievements of the 20th century".
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Re: Not all vaccines are the same
Date: 2023-03-29 07:20 pm (UTC)The country with the highest deaths per million of population for TB is Niger (31 deaths/million people). Niger is 95% vaxxed against TB. Of the top 10 countries with the highest death rates from TB (average of around 25 deaths/million people), half are at least 95% vaccinated.
At the other end of the scale, Ireland stopped vaccinating entirely against TB in 2015, and is in the bottom 10 for deaths (0.2 deaths per million). Switzerland is notable here too, with 0.36 deaths per million (in the bottom 20 for deaths from TB, from a total of 155 countries for which I could find all the data), and 76% of its population unvaccinated.
Put simply, the country with the highest death from TB is almost completely vaccinated against TB; the country with almost the lowest rate of death from TB is completely unvaccinated.
the same pattern is true of all other vaccines, with the sole exception of rabies; that 1 will save your life. but really, the accepted wisdom will damage or kill your children, according to the actual data.
• Are vaccines effective? What does history tell us?
"For children over one year of age, the overall decline in mortality during the 20th century has been dramatic. In 1900, more than 3 in 100 children died between their first and 20th birthdays; today, fewer than 2 in 1,000 die. Nearly 85% of this decline occurred before the Second World War, a period when few antibiotics or modern vaccines and medicines were available".
"Annual Summary of Vital Statistics", PEDIATRICS, the official journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics. DOI: 10.1542/peds.106.6.1307
• If vaccines are not effective, what has improved health over the last century?
"The incidence of diseases such as cholera and typhoid has dropped dramatically, despite the lack of vaccines. In 1900, the incidence of typhoid fever (for which there has never been a vaccine) in the United States was about 100 cases per 100,000 people. By 1920, it had dropped to 33.8 cases per 100,000 people. By 2006, it had dropped to 0.1 cases per 100,000 people. This decrease in the disease is attributed to the introduction of disinfection and treatment of drinking water, improved quality of water sources, and improved sanitation and hygiene. It is because of these successes that we can celebrate more than a century of disinfection and treatment of public drinking water - one of the greatest public health achievements of the 20th century".
https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/history.html